6510 john deere

cz527

Can any one tell me anything about the 6510 john deere good or bad

rs8

very good but id image most would have high hours at this stage!

weatherbyfoxer

Never heard bad reports of the 6000 or 6010 range of deeres but if hours are high parts will be worn.brakes can be very expencive if repairs needed..as with all jd parts

Mayo_Boy

Better off going with a 6610 as you'll have more power with the turbo...

Zr105

6610 engine non turbo and de rated to 100ish hp with the 4cyl back end so a slightly lighter tractor than a 66, the engine will take turboing if the hours are low and well serviced, which could leave a very light 130hp pocket rocket

cz527

I would prefer a 6610 se but very hard to find and very expensive tractor to buy that why I was thinking of a 6510 but I've herd that they are very under powered was told that I'd buy a 6620 cheaper than a 6610 because the 6610 is so soth after tractor

cz527

I been asking around different garages all morning and I've narrowed it down to a 6610 john deere a 6270 massey ferguson or a tm125 newholland what is everyone opinion on them and witch would stand out from the rest

lakill Farm

cz527 wrote: »

Can any one tell me anything about the 6510 john deere good or bad

the contractor who bales for me has a 2002 JD6510

its always on the road. He bought it in 2004 with 3k hours on it. This time last year it had 14000 hours and in all the time it has got , serviced, tyres and a PTO switch for €180 . BTW it has a JD loader on it

He mowes with it and mounted 9ft mower, maybe 15000 bales a year
agitates
pulls a ex120 behind it
pulls a 14t dump trailer
pulls 18 silages bales

it truly is an amazing tractor and still looks shocking well for a tractor earning its keep every day

that much so he was upgrading a tractor last year and the place he bought it off begged him to trade it back in. but he didn't

cz527

John deere are probably one of the best but I herd they are the hardest on fuel to

rs8

lakill Farm wrote: »

the contractor who bales for me has a 2002 JD6510

its always on the road. He bought it in 2004 with 3k hours on it. This time last year it had 14000 hours and in all the time it has got , serviced, tyres and a PTO switch for €180 . BTW it has a JD loader on it

He mowes with it and mounted 9ft mower, maybe 15000 bales a year
agitates
pulls a ex120 behind it
pulls a 14t dump trailer
pulls 18 silages bales

it truly is an amazing tractor and still looks shocking well for a tractor earning its keep every day


that much so he was upgrading a tractor last year and the place he bought it off begged him to trade it back in. but he didn't

would that tractor be on the meath/westmeath boarder?

grazeaway

cz527 wrote: »

I would prefer a 6610 se but very hard to find and very expensive tractor to buy that why I was thinking of a 6510 but I've herd that they are very under powered was told that I'd buy a 6620 cheaper than a 6610 because the 6610 is so soth after tractor

There is a reason the 20 series is easy to get hold of, they are a ball of sh1te compared to the 10 series. I know a few lads back home with 10 series and are all keeping them. The 6610 was and still is probably one of the best tractors JD ever made.

What do you plan on using it for?

Mayo_Boy

grazeaway wrote: »

There is a reason the 20 series is easy to get hold of, they are a ball of sh1te compared to the 10 series.

iirc it was only the first of the 20 series that were bad.

grazeaway

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

iirc it was only the first of the 20 series that were bad.

Maybe but there aren't too many horsing around with trailers on them compared to the series 10 or 30's. I know a lad that traded in a 6610 and 6810 for a 6620 and 6920. Got rid of the 6920 after 2 years and managed to get a 6930 but couldn't get rid of the 6620 (well he could but at a massive loss) still has it but it has low hours, spent a fortune on the gearbox so only uses it for work that won't tax the gearbox too much (spraying, agitating, raking). No way will he put it doing any hauling again. Has a 6910 with close on 20k drawing a low loader and dump trailer and 2 6610's doing the silage (baling and keltec) with well over 15k on both and all running like new. He reckons the 20's are too soft for heavy work

cz527

I'll be doing farm work no contract work agitating slurry spreading with 1600 gallon tank we do no pit just raps about 700 a year so be mowing raking and drawing our selves and I have a 7740 newholland at the mint and I'd like more power and Hever tractor and I'm trying to see witch is the best 6270 massey 6610 john deere tm125 newholland

yellow50HX

cz527 wrote: »

I'll be doing farm work no contract work agitating slurry spreading with 1600 gallon tank we do no pit just raps about 700 a year so be mowing raking and drawing our selves and I have a 7740 newholland at the mint and I'd like more power and Hever tractor and I'm trying to see witch is the best 6270 massey 6610 john deere tm125 newholland

Trying to get get a good 6610 with low-ish hours for ok money is a bit like finding hens teeth. If your used to the NH then the TM 125 might be better, however they and the Massey are bigger the the JD so if your sticking a loader on it the JD would be more nimble. A Ts115 would be near in size and the turboed ones go to 125-130 hp so might be worth a look.

cz527

Not a fan of the ts I like the tm better coz of the. Gears cab suspension and 7.5 liter engine

yellow50HX

cz527 wrote: »

Not a fan of the ts I like the tm better coz of the. Gears cab suspension and 7.5 liter engine

In that case go with the TM

massey woman

Have one from new
never gave a bit of bother
great tractor
would recommend highly
8610 hours on it now

Greengrass1

cz527 wrote: »

Not a fan of the ts I like the tm better coz of the. Gears cab suspension and 7.5 liter engine

Could go case mxm 120 or the like either. Same as the tm

cz527

I do like the case but the main dealer to far away from me if I never need to get anything.I'd say it be the tm125 il be going for any one no a price for a good one

White Clover

cz527 wrote: »

I do like the case but the main dealer to far away from me if I never need to get anything.I'd say it be the tm125 il be going for any one no a price for a good one

What about a 4370 ? Simpler machine than the 6270.

cz527

Nice tractor hard to find and can be over priced as well but are a nice tractor

cz527

Tm125 is what I'm going for any ida where there be one for sale preferred with a loader and good tyres

yellow50HX

cz527 wrote: »

Tm125 is what I'm going for any ida where there be one for sale preferred with a loader and good tyres

Where are ya based?

http://www.tractorsforsale.ie/property/2004-new-holland-tm120-dual-command-power-shuttle-mint-952.html

cz527

I'm in laois and not a 120 a 125 and has to have range comand and cab suspension

yellow50HX

cz527 wrote: »

I'm in laois and not a 120 a 125 and has to have range comand and cab suspension

http://www.rmcallistertractors.com/machinery/details/?id=409

cz527

Link doesn't work but I'll type it into Google and have a look at his Web site tanx

cz527

Went to look at a tm 125 today but it wasn't clean enuf for me but he had a Tm165 that was like new with new tyres and 7000 ours but was very very well minded he told me that from tm120 to the Tm165 is the same tractor only the power is different and that he can put it at 120 for me if I wonted is this true or would I be mad looked at a Tm165 in fairness it does look the same length and hight

Zr105

cz527 wrote: »

Went to look at a tm 125 today but it wasn't clean enuf for me but he had a Tm165 that was like new with new tyres and 7000 ours but was very very well minded he told me that from tm120 to the Tm165 is the same tractor only the power is different and that he can put it at 120 for me if I wonted is this true or would I be mad looked at a Tm165 in fairness it does look the same length and hight

A 165 would be the first of the longer chassis machines. Up to a 155 would be the same general size although there are some variations in axle hub sizes with the 140's and 155's

cz527

But would it be madness getting a 165 and tho and putting it back to 120 should I just hold out for a 120 or 125

Bitten & Hisses

I'm slightly biased, but what about something which is a cross between the Massey and the Deere - A Renault Ares. Deere engine and Gima back end (same as found on Masseys). We have a 620RZ which has given tremendous service. It has pulled dump trailers, low loaders, baled with a Claas 255 baler, wrapped bales, agitated, mowed with a 10ft trailed or a 9ft mounted mower, spread slurry with a 2000 gallon tank. At 112HP, it could always do with a bit more poke, but it's well able for most jobs. Also has a loader on it, so it does the winter feeding. The RZ, which comes with cab suspension is a quiet, comfortable tractor, much more so than a 10 series Deere.
Like a 6510, the trick is to find a tidy example.

cz527

Sorry wouldn't be a tractor I'd like myself but have herd grate things about them

cz527

Went to look at a Tm165 and I have to say it not the monster of a tractor I though it would be was actually a tidy outfit it had power command and I don't no is that the good one or not

cz527

Any one no the fuel consumption on a 165 Ashwell doing lite work and hard work

yellow50HX

cz527 wrote: »

Any one no the fuel consumption on a 165 Ashwell doing lite work and hard work

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/003/1/4/3146-new-holland-tm165-tests.html

simx

cz527 wrote: »

Went to look at a Tm165 and I have to say it not the monster of a tractor I though it would be was actually a tidy outfit it had power command and I don't no is that the good one or not

range command has the better reputation

cz527

That fuel consumption doesn't sound right at that rate it would be a out and out animal on fuel no mater what it is doing shure it can't be that bad.and why is range comand a better choice

davidk1394

cz527 wrote: »

That fuel consumption doesn't sound right at that rate it would be a out and out animal on fuel no mater what it is doing shure it can't be that bad.and why is range comand a better choice

Range command has better pulling power and is more reliable. Cousin has both range and power command machines. The range command is more comfortable aswell

cz527

davidk1394 wrote: »

Range command has better pulling power and is more reliable. Cousin has both range and power command machines. The range command is more comfortable aswell

Is there much difference between fuel consumption with the to or are they both around the same

yellow50HX

cz527 wrote: »

Is there much difference between fuel consumption with the to or are they both around the same

I know a few lads with TM's round here (115, 125, 140, 145, 165) with a variety of gear boxes and all are very happy with them. They all reckon the NH is better on juice then the equivalent JD or Massey. If your worried about the fuel use then maybe the 165 is just too big.

You should match your tractor to your needs if you can go a little bigger then fine but there is no need using a 165 hp machine to do work that a 100hp will do easy. My neighbours 165 pulls a 5 furrow plough in spring, a 3 meter drill combo (with ease) and in the summer draws silage with a 18ft silage trailer. Another lad has a 140 and she is a great machine, used for slurry with a 10k ltr tank, mowing with a jd1365 with swarther, baling with a wegler chopper, harvesting beet with a double row armed, and also does hedge cutting. Most tractors will burn as much ticking over as they do with light to medium work. If none of you work needs 150hp or more then no need for a tractor that size.

While the TM's share the same basic engine and a lot of equipment the 165 is nearly a tonne heavier then the 125

whelan2

Have a tm125 from New. 2000. Great tractor. Has 170 Keenan feeder on it all winter and also pulls a 2500 gallon tanker. Basic gear box

White Clover

OP, I would advise you to take a step back and size up things again. For the work you said you would be doing, 110hp would be loads. At the moment you are talking about 165hp. 50% more than you may need.
If I was you I would broaden the search again including greengrass' suggestion along with your original 3.

yellow50HX

http://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-holland/9778491?offset=1

http://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/newholland-tm125/9739829?offset=20

Not sure what he is like to deal with but always seem to have a good selection
http://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/pat-timmins-tractors-tullow-co-carlow/9277758?offset=6

cz527

He has the 165 I am looking at and iv rang about that 125 it has range comand but no cab suspension.and I no 110 hp would do me at the mint but in the fucher I'd be looking to go bigger with stuff and it be nice to have the machine there for it.a man that lives near me has a 125 and when spreading slurry with 1600 gallon abbey he uses 7 litter a our now that is very impressive even if I got 10 to 12 litters a our out of a 165 I'd be very happy but iv been told with power command more like 15 to 18 litters a our

yellow50HX

cz527 wrote: »

He has the 165 I am looking at and iv rang about that 125 it has range comand but no cab suspension.and I no 110 hp would do me at the mint but in the fucher I'd be looking to go bigger with stuff and it be nice to have the machine there for it.a man that lives near me has a 125 and when spreading slurry with 1600 gallon abbey he uses 7 litter a our now that is very impressive even if I got 10 to 12 litters a our out of a 165 I'd be very happy but iv been told with power command more like 15 to 18 litters a our

Neighbour with the TM115 uses a 2000 gallon tank. If your planning to go to one that size I'd say a 135 or 140 would suit ya, still reckon the 165 is just that bit too big.

cz527

Just the way the 165 came up and the fact that it is very hard to get a 125 or 135 Clean.would any one recommend getting the power put down on it or would that be a waste of time and money

lakill Farm

cz527 wrote: »

Just the way the 165 came up and the fact that it is very hard to get a 125 or 135 Clean.would any one recommend getting the power put down on it or would that be a waste of time and money

really clean McCormick 135 for sale on donedeal in Kildare. 1650 hours on it. I think €36k

http://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/mccormick-mc-135/10116503?offset=2

cz527

Wouldn't be a lover of them massey jd or new holland

cute geoge

I have driven 2 tm140's one the pump was opened up to 170hp .a savage tractor and the other was original and there was a massive difference in hp. I had the basic tm range command drawing slurry and it was very econimical but def. need suspension

cz527

Was taking to a main dealer today and thay recommend putting it back to 140 for my sort of work and it would make it lighter on fuel for me aswell and still have good power

grazeaway

cz527 wrote: »

Was taking to a main dealer today and thay recommend putting it back to 140 for my sort of work and it would make it lighter on fuel for me aswell and still have good power

Just remember that it will still be heavier then a 140. We have a 160 hp valtra and it's great for the heavy work it's wasted on light work.