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Heifer breaking fences

  • 05-07-2015 4:44pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39


    Have a year and a half Hereford heifer, bucket fed, running with more of same and suckler cows. When the paddock gets bare she will jump or walk through or under two strands of electric fence wire, I'm trying to strip graze at the moment and she sometimes knocks the wire and takes some of the others with her causing chaos, I have a very powerful fence but she seems to just disregard it!!! I'm confused with it and tempted to house her and make steaks, any advice


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    I've seen people put a chain on the end of a bulls nose so it gives him a right smack off the electric fence. Soon learn to avoid the fences. Wonder if you could try the same with the temp nose ring used at shows?

    This yokemabob.

    springlocklead.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Kovu wrote: »
    I've seen people put a chain on the end of a bulls nose so it gives him a right smack off the electric fence. Soon learn to avoid the fences. Wonder if you could try the same with the temp nose ring used at shows?

    This yokemabob.

    springlocklead.jpg
    +1
    Put a snaffle (Kovu's pic) in her nose with 6" to 8" of chain attached to the ring. Don't put a length of chain as she could stand on it whilst grazing and hurt her nose. Just enough for her to get a good smack off the fence.
    I used to have a cross bred Blonde heifer that could represent Ireland in the high jump and limbo at the same time.
    Eventually gave up on her and brought her to the factory. Upon arrival to the lairage (AIBP Ballymun) she jumped out of every pen and thankfully in the right direction towards the chute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 RogR


    Base price wrote: »
    +1
    Put a snaffle (Kovu's pic) in her nose with 6" to 8" of chain attached to the ring. Don't put a length of chain as she could stand on it whilst grazing and hurt her nose. Just enough for her to get a good smack off the fence.
    I used to have a cross bred Blonde heifer that could represent Ireland in the high jump and limbo at the same time.
    Eventually gave up on her and brought her to the factory. Upon arrival to the lairage (AIBP Ballymun) she jumped out of every pen and thankfully in the right direction towards the chute.

    I'll try putting a cow chain on her neck as she is used of being byre tied, I wonder would it make any odds though when she also goes under the fence and walks straight through it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    RogR wrote: »
    I'll try putting a cow chain on her neck as she is used of being byre tied, I wonder would it make any odds though when she also goes under the fence and walks straight through it
    Neck chain is a different bit of kit to a nose chain. In order of senses - cattle smell first (most sensitive), see next and respond thereafter.
    Try the nose chain and let us know how she gets on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 RogR


    Will that hold her back thrive wise, similar to putting a chain on a young bull


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    RogR wrote: »
    Have a year and a half Hereford heifer, bucket fed, running with more of same and suckler cows. When the paddock gets bare she will jump or walk through or under two strands of electric fence wire, I'm trying to strip graze at the moment and she sometimes knocks the wire and takes some of the others with her causing chaos, I have a very powerful fence but she seems to just disregard it!!! I'm confused with it and tempted to house her and make steaks, any advice

    What kind of volts are in the fence, have yet to see cattle go through a fence the second time if you have 7-8 thousand volts running through it, any beast that does needs to be made into burgers not worth the hassle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    appears your fencer isn't working as it should , as j627 says what voltage is present on the line

    very easy to electrocute an animal if a nose chain wraps around the wire it has happened more than once with bulls

    check your voltage & it needs to be at least 5 kv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,219 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    orm0nd wrote: »
    appears your fencer isn't working as it should , as j627 says what voltage is present on the line

    very easy to electrocute an animal if a nose chain wraps around the wire it has happened more than once with bulls

    check your voltage & it needs to be at least 5 kv
    have a cow here goes through to next paddock every day:mad: shock is 3 bars on tester and you can see her getting the shock as she goes through the fence, some one on here said to put a bull ring in her, must do it as she bugs the hell out of me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 RogR


    I'm getting 7000 volts on the tester, I feel the same about her, she is very stupid /stubborn by nature also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,219 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    RogR wrote: »
    I'm getting 7000 volts on the tester, I feel the same about her, she is very stupid /stubborn by nature also
    this fooker will stand at gap of next paddock waiting for me to let her out :mad: last year i used to have a stick to give her a wallop but she just missed my head with a 2 legged kick on the way by me one day


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    whelan2 wrote: »
    this fooker will stand at gap of next paddock waiting for me to let her out :mad: last year i used to have a stick to give her a wallop but she just missed my head with a 2 legged kick on the way by me one day

    heads are too valuable to have her hanging around too long


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Had a heifer here who would jump wire into next paddock. Would burst into parlour and trample over any cow in her way. Last straw came when I had her seperate pit for ai. She jumped gate and dragged gate down on me and bust my head against a wall.
    she made a few happy meals I hope. Pure out and out bitch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    RogR wrote: »
    I'll try putting a cow chain on her neck as she is used of being byre tied, I wonder would it make any odds though when she also goes under the fence and walks straight through it

    Wouldnt recommend putting neck chain on her, couldnt she end up hanging herself on a fence somewhere

    Nose is the best job..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    The odd one i saw over the years put the head down and go under an electric fence. Trimming the hair tight on her neck, mane area, often was enough to stop them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 RogR


    I housed her this morning, will have burgers soon, according to my father's dates and records she is also standing and leaving the bull mate with her regularly when it's not possible she could be in heat


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Had a cow that used to do it too. She got a neck chain and a bolt with about 14'' of light L iron hanging out of it, sorted the problem.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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