Buying a car, logbook not signed

kh8

when buying a car if the owner gave you the log book without signing it is it illegal

bazz26

Legally the seller is supposed to get the new owner to fill in the change of ownership section on the back of the log book and then the seller posts it off to Shannon who will in turn issue a new log book to the new owner. The seller is not supposed to give the log book to the new owner.

Is this seller the actual owner or a part time wheeler dealer who bought the car to sell it on?

kh8

bazz26 wrote: »

Legally the seller is supposed to get the new owner to fill in the change of ownership section on the back of the log book and then the seller posts it off to Shannon who will in turn issue a new log book to the new owner. The seller is not supposed to give the log book to the new owner.

Is this seller the actual owner or a part time wheeler dealer who bought the car to sell it on?

the buyer ask the seller for the log book and gave it this car was bought 2 months ago and it still in the sellers name is it legal cheers

colm_mcm

It's hardly illegal to hand you registration certificate for a car you bought.
It is assumed if you want to take ownership of the car that the change of ownership is completed and sent off.
I can't see how any laws would have been broken here, merely an inconvenience for the buyer for not following the procedure.

kh8

colm_mcm wrote: »

It's hardly illegal to hand you registration certificate for a car you bought.
It is assumed if you want to take ownership of the car that the change of ownership is completed and sent off.
I can't see how any laws would have been broken here, merely an inconvenience for the buyer for not following the procedure.

but if buyer was speeding the seller would get the fine

colm_mcm

The person that the car is registered to, yes.

The speeding bit would be illegal obviously.

slimjimmc

It seems it's against the law for both parties to not do their part in registering the change in ownership. Though I doubt many ever get pulled up on it.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1992/en/si/0385.html#zzsi385y1992a10
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1995/en/si/0125.html

kh8

slimjimmc wrote: »

It seems it's against the law for both parties to not do their part in registering the change in ownership. Though I doubt many ever get pulled up on it.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1992/en/si/0385.html#zzsi385y1992a10
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1995/en/si/0125.html

what can be done about this

Atlantic Dawn

kh8 wrote: »

what can be done about this

Do you know if the person you bought the car from was the actual owner named on the logbook or just some randomer?

mullingar

per procurationem, also referred as p.p.

(sign on behalf)

kh8

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Do you know if the person you bought the car from was the actual owner named on the logbook or just some randomer?

no mate i got no car just people i know buy cars and take the log book

slimjimmc

kh8 wrote: »

no mate i got no car just people i know buy cars and take the log book

Backyard car dealers? No signatures means avoiding adding another registered owner to the car (better for maintaining value) and doesn't attract attention from Revenue. Proper dealers have a garage code which they must use to register a bought car but it doesn't add to the number of owners.

Vic_08

slimjimmc wrote: »

Backyard car dealers? No signatures means avoiding adding another registered owner to the car (better for maintaining value) and doesn't attract attention from Revenue.

Or to give them their proper title: Done Deal private sellers.