Grazing land rental price

Samsquanch

I have recently inherited 4.5 acres of grass in Kildare. Local farmer wants to rent it for a year for his sheep. Is offering 500 for the year , is that a fair price ?

farmerjj

If that's from now till December then ya that's fair.

Kevhog1988

Samsquanch wrote: »

I have recently inherited 4.5 acres of grass in Kildare. Local farmer wants to rent it for a year for his sheep. Is offering 500 for the year , is that a fair price ?

I am looking to rent in north kildare (carbury) if it is still to let. Guys here will let you know average fair rental price.

Pacoa

500 an acre sounds about right to me

Samsquanch

Just to clarify he is offering €500 for the lot, for 12 months

blackdog1

Samsquanch wrote: »

Just to clarify he is offering €500 for the lot, for 12 months

With or without entitlements?. And what is the land like?. Hard to give a price without all the facts

Samsquanch

I am not aware of any entitlements on the land. It was always rented out by my uncle to local farmers in the past. sheep and cattle grazing
Grass quality is very good, good dense growth

mahoney_j

In north tipp average land is making 200 per acre and good land up to 350.500 for the 12 months is chancing his arm

ALANC81

Were renting 40 acres of good grazing land in Wexford for €100 an acre per 11 months.
Water is on the land but we take care of every thing else.
Price depends on the quality of the land and what you are or are not going to do from year to year.

ihatewinter

If he is local and will keep the place is good condition then 500 is a fair price.
You could get an outsider who will paid say 800 and have the land is **** by winter's end by keeping cattle on it. Someone who you know and trust will be better than trying to get top price. Leave at 500 and tell him to maintain fencing and land by spraying etc

Courtesy Flush

Have land rental prices gone up, down or stagnated in the last few years?
Where would be the best resourse to see the average prices ?

Farmer Pudsey

mahoney_j wrote: »

In north tipp average land is making 200 per acre and good land up to 350.500 for the 12 months is chancing his arm

There dairy farmer prices. I be slow to pay much with 100/acre for small lots even next to me. Fences tend to be chancy and you have to be taking cattle on and off them as well. 500 seems fair for 4.5 acres as other posters said if he a good tenent he better than a lot of lads you will get a few hundred more off.

djmc

Around here rough grazing land is making around 50 an acre good land around 150.

massey265

Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I am thinking off letting some off my land for sheep winter grazing, is 50 - 150 euros per acre per year?

Willfarman

massey265 wrote: »

Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I am thinking off letting some off my land for sheep winter grazing, is 50 - 150 euros per acre per year?

Yes. The fairest way for everyone for winter sheep grazing is the region of 10cemt per day per ewe.

croot

massey265 wrote: »

Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I am thinking off letting some off my land for sheep winter grazing, is 50 - 150 euros per acre per year?

Unless you have sheep fencing don't bother.

D1ck head neighbour did this two years ago and the sheep were in everyone's land except his. Needless to say he 's not to popular after that.

massey265

croot wrote:

Unless you have sheep fencing don't bother.

Would doubling up on barbed wire that's already there be good enough (safe enough)?

Username John

massey265 wrote: »

Would doubling up on barbed wire that's already there be good enough (safe enough)?

Nope...

J.O. Farmer

massey265 wrote: »

Would doubling up on barbed wire that's already there be good enough (safe enough)?

Nearly easier to put up sheep wire and definitely better even if only the 2ft wire. That might be good enough if on a ditch but 3ft is the way to go. Very hard to keep sheep with barbed wire.
Electric might work but next to barbed could be a disaster.

Dickie10

does anyone know off hand how much grazing ewes per head per day is from november -january? used to be 0.15-0.20 /day. or do dairy men do this anymore?

sandman30

Dickie10 wrote: »

does anyone know off hand how much grazing ewes per head per day is from november -january? used to be 0.15-0.20 /day. or do dairy men do this anymore?

Big variation in prices for ewe grazing per day. Some heroes paying 30c per day. Know of other people who have winter grazing for free to tidy the land up. I reckon on 7c, wouldn't go more than 10c.

Certainly less dairy farmers take in sheep now, but some still do and plenty of cattle farmers do.

Western Pomise

sandman30 wrote: »

Big variation in prices for ewe grazing per day. Some heroes paying 30c per day. Know of other people who have winter grazing for free to tidy the land up. I reckon on 7c, wouldn't go more than 10c.

Certainly less dairy farmers take in sheep now, but some still do and plenty of cattle farmers do.

Jaysus you wouldn’t make up the man letting the sheep in!:)

The reality is both the dry stock or dairy farmer benefit from having the sheep in to eat off old grass around cow pats,or strong grass in paddocks etc over the winter,the sheep eat the grass down well thus improving quality of grass growing from March on for the cattle farmer the following Spring.

Some cattle farmers let sheep in to control newly reseeded land at the end of the year,again Sheep do a great job tillering out new grass growth and encouraging a thickening of the Sward.Have had Pregnant ewes in with a dairy farmer before and was paying a euro a week from Christmas to middle of March.

Fair Price for both parties,Dairy farmer gets paddocks tidied out and sward quality improved.....sheep farmer has ewes in great physical condition as they were eating good grass on high quality land for a few months.

Unless the sheep would be going to be grazing on very marginal quality land I wouldn’t think many people would get away with only paying 7c a day for grazing.

But like everything in life I could be totally wrong

Young95

Western Pomise wrote: »

Jaysus you wouldn’t make up the man letting the sheep in!:)

The reality is both the dry stock or dairy farmer benefit from having the sheep in to eat off old grass around cow pats,or strong grass in paddocks etc over the winter,the sheep eat the grass down well thus improving quality of grass growing from March on for the cattle farmer the following Spring.

Some cattle farmers let sheep in to control newly reseeded land at the end of the year,again Sheep do a great job tillering out new grass growth and encouraging a thickening of the Sward.Have had Pregnant ewes in with a dairy farmer before and was paying a euro a week from Christmas to middle of March.

Fair Price for both parties,Dairy farmer gets paddocks tidied out and sward quality improved.....sheep farmer has ewes in great physical condition as they were eating good grass on high quality land for a few months.

Unless the sheep would be going to be grazing on very marginal quality land I wouldn’t think many people would get away with only paying 7c a day for grazing.

But like everything in life I could be totally wrong

It probably pays for itself tho I’d say ? Not having to feed meal plus your own labour of feeding meal and silege etc and also having grass for them post lambing on your own farm ?

sandman30

Western Pomise wrote: »

Jaysus you wouldn’t make up the man letting the sheep in!:)

The reality is both the dry stock or dairy farmer benefit from having the sheep in to eat off old grass around cow pats,or strong grass in paddocks etc over the winter,the sheep eat the grass down well thus improving quality of grass growing from March on for the cattle farmer the following Spring.

Some cattle farmers let sheep in to control newly reseeded land at the end of the year,again Sheep do a great job tillering out new grass growth and encouraging a thickening of the Sward.Have had Pregnant ewes in with a dairy farmer before and was paying a euro a week from Christmas to middle of March.

Fair Price for both parties,Dairy farmer gets paddocks tidied out and sward quality improved.....sheep farmer has ewes in great physical condition as they were eating good grass on high quality land for a few months.

Unless the sheep would be going to be grazing on very marginal quality land I wouldn’t think many people would get away with only paying 7c a day for grazing.

But like everything in life I could be totally wrong

To be fair 7c is for December, good ground, but tidying up what cattle don't want to eat, ideal for ewes mid pregnancy. Grass in February is worth more, especially if suitable for ewes in late pregnancy and not feeding meal.

Grass after Christmas seems harder got now. The cattle men that like the farm tidied, don't want sheep in January, as it affects spring growth too much.

wrangler

Western Pomise wrote: »

Jaysus you wouldn’t make up the man letting the sheep in!:)

The reality is both the dry stock or dairy farmer benefit from having the sheep in to eat off old grass around cow pats,or strong grass in paddocks etc over the winter,the sheep eat the grass down well thus improving quality of grass growing from March on for the cattle farmer the following Spring.

Some cattle farmers let sheep in to control newly reseeded land at the end of the year,again Sheep do a great job tillering out new grass growth and encouraging a thickening of the Sward.Have had Pregnant ewes in with a dairy farmer before and was paying a euro a week from Christmas to middle of March.

Fair Price for both parties,Dairy farmer gets paddocks tidied out and sward quality improved.....sheep farmer has ewes in great physical condition as they were eating good grass on high quality land for a few months.

Unless the sheep would be going to be grazing on very marginal quality land I wouldn’t think many people would get away with only paying 7c a day for grazing.

But like everything in life I could be totally wrong

The farmer leaving sheep on his farm until march would have been foolish, but maybe his farm wasn't suitable for grazing with Cattle before April. If it was a year like this year with late growth, he wouldn't have grass before may if the sheep had it grazed in March