Saturday 27/06

sdoc13

One sticks out tomorrow that looks well handicapped. Dark Castle 8 15 Doncaster. Won this race in 2013 off 74 followed up the following week off 80. On lowest mark since of 68. Running better than the bare results recently and I think the 20s available with ladbrokes is decent value. 2 pts win.

I see Aidan has put up swynmor and I have followed. I think the 28s available is great value.

shmeee

Curragh 5.50
Rockaway Valley NAP @ 4/1 (BFSB, Lads, SJ)

gazza1

BALLESTEROS 8/1 4.50 chester

C&D winner in a class 2 off 99. Ok it was 3 years ago but has then been running with marks of over 100 for 2 years and has now finally begun to tumble down the weights and runs off 83 tomorrow. Ran really well lto but didnt get a clear run so hopefully he can gets a bit more luck this time and dropped into class 4 im very hopefull.

Now is it possible that SEVE 9/2 could win the 2.30?
Well i think he has every chance.
Won his maiden fto over C&D beating ANONYMOUS JOHN who was 3rd by 3L and he is now rated 92. His last run was over 6f and its clear he didnt stay the extra. Back to 5f and also back to class 4 for today im expecting him to go very close

Now it would be a some coincidence should the double land but im on it anyway

BALLESTEROS 4.50 2pts win
SEVE 2.30 2pts win
2pts ew double

Gl with your bets

Johner

Will wait for some evens on Jack Hobbs in the morning before backing him. A reproduction of his Epsom run will be enough to take this.

BorneTobyWilde

Buthelezi 28-1 3.45
Very consistent always running its race, with 5 to place I like its ew value.

BorneTobyWilde

El Viento 14-1 8.15
On a competitive mark here. It has run in some very strong races last summer, only one run
so far this year but hopefully enough to see it go close here.
14-1 ew

byronbay2

I don't know which poster uses the phrase "like finding money in the street" on here but that's how I feel about the 11/8 on offer about War Envoy in The Celebration Stakes (16.45) at The Curragh tomorrow. There are so many reasons to fancy this horse that I don't know where to start:

1) O'Brien ALWAYS targets this race on Derby day and has won 4 of the last 5, always with a 3yo, which get a ginormous weight allowance. On that basis alone you could lump on his only runner. WE gets about 14lb from his 3 closest form rivals - I can't imagine that any of them can concede this weight and beat an improving 3yo, that won at Royal Ascot 9 days ago.

2) O'Brien and Moore are in scintillating form and WF had a smooth success (on fast ground, like he will encounter tomorrow) at RA off a rating of 104 - adjusted to 111 after that victory. No horse in the field can match that form.

3) He has always been held in high regard by AO'B and has raced at the highest level (Breeders Cup, French 2000 Guineas and Derby) up until RA, where he won an ultra-competitive 28-runner handicap off 9st 6.

I could go on but will suffice to say that only a messy race with muddling pace or the exertions of his efforts of last week can beat WE tomorrow. I don't expect either of those to be a problem (O'Brien wouldn't run him [alone!] if he had any doubts) and I think that, at 11/8, he is one of the bets of the season - must be an even money or odds-on shot tomorrow. Remember, O'Brien won this race with 3yo Giovanni Boldini at 8/13 last year, with nothing like the form of WE.

posturingpat

byronbay2 wrote: »

I don't know which poster uses the phrase "like finding money in the street" on here but that's how I feel about the 11/8 on offer about War Envoy in The Celebration Stakes (16.45) at The Curragh tomorrow. There are so many reasons to fancy this horse that I don't know where to start:

1) O'Brien ALWAYS targets this race on Derby day and has won 4 of the last 5, always with a 3yo, which get a ginormous weight allowance. On that basis alone you could lump on his only runner. WE gets about 14lb from his 3 closest form rivals - I can't imagine that any of them can concede this weight and beat an improving 3yo, that won at Royal Ascot 9 days ago.

2) O'Brien and Moore are in scintillating form and WF had a smooth success (on fast ground, like he will encounter tomorrow) at RA off a rating of 104 - adjusted to 111 after that victory. No horse in the field can match that form.

3) He has always been held in high regard by AO'B and has raced at the highest level (Breeders Cup, French 2000 Guineas and Derby) up until RA, where he won an ultra-competitive 28-runner handicap off 9st 6.

I could go on but will suffice to say that only a messy race with muddling pace or the exertions of his efforts of last week can beat WE tomorrow. I don't expect either of those to be a problem (O'Brien wouldn't run him [alone!] if he had any doubts) and I think that, at 11/8, he is one of the bets of the season - must be an even money or odds-on shot tomorrow. Remember, O'Brien won this race with 3yo Giovanni Boldini at 8/13 last year, with nothing like the form of WE.

Agreed. Will go odds on i suspect

brassringclub

Not entirely a very interesting selection, and obviously a minefield of a race, but Seamour in the Plate today must go close.

Brian Ellison wouldn't be a favourite bloke of mine, for all that he is obviously a talented dual purpose trainer, I can rarely seem to get him right. but the Plate meeting is one he targets every single year, and it is my belief that he has targeted winning this race since he first started training horses. He was born on plate day, in Newcastle. He picked up Seamour from Jo Crowley less than a year ago and I believe this has been the target since. A couple more than satisfactory hurdle victories before picking up a nice pot at Haydock in a race which has been analysed as him slightly having the run of the race. I couldn't agree any less with that, as if the side he ended up finishing strongly on was the place to be that day, my uncle is my aunty.

Obviously he has got the widest draw, and he is absolutely mob handed, which is a trait of himself in these races, with often the unfancied one going in, but I feel there will be little messing around done here in what I feel is his best chance of getting his name on the Pitmans Derby roll of honour.

2pt win at 12/1 general

sdoc13

sdoc13 wrote: »

One sticks out tomorrow that looks well handicapped. Dark Castle 8 15 Doncaster. Won this race in 2013 off 74 followed up the following week off 80. On lowest mark since of 68. Running better than the bare results recently and I think the 20s available with ladbrokes is decent value. 2 pts win.

I see Aidan has put up swynmor and I have followed. I think the 28s available is great value.

I have gone in again on swynmor at 40s.

posturingpat

The Hannon 2 year old that's coming over called island something(name escapes me) should win the 2 year old race. To finish so close lasttime after himself aand King rooks had went toe to toe for so long was very impressive to my eye. Ill be having a fair go on him.

michael999999

sdoc13 wrote: »

I have gone in again on swynmor at 40s.

Where is he running?

mailburner

michael999999 wrote: »

Where is he running?

3.45newc


took that 40s myself
theres a big one in this fella who looks great on his day

Backstreet Moyes

Sounds to good to be true 8/1 the treble

Jack Hobbs
Log out Island
War Envoy

Peintre Celebre

The one time Guineas fav Top Offer worth a score at Lingfield tonight well drawn off a mark of 62, running better than the bare result last time having been poorly placed. 14/1

PM me nudes

Eddie Lynam's Byzantium is well fancied in the 4.10. Group horse running in a handicap apparently.

kalinisi

Ive had 2 decent bets today Daneking 5/1 in the last , dont think the run at leopardstown was nearly as bad as is being made out, he had to take a pull and nearly clipped heals 4f out, made up lots of ground with the jock not killing him in the straight when his chance was gone.

Taking on War envoy with Shepards Purse , just dont know if War Envoy will get the gallop he wants and Shepards Purse i thought was unlucky at Leopardswtown and will give the FAV most to do

Banged in a very small lucky 63 with all the boards.ie hopes!
And a very small e/w lucky 31 on these at the curragh
Daneking
Shepards Purse
Highland Reel
Military Angel
Stop and Linger

Good Luck to ALL!

Peintre Celebre

You'll do well to see a better finish than the second at Newmarket all year. Great duel all the way home

brassringclub

Jessie may give up the NH game altogether.

Deco99

Clever cookie out. Whats the rule 4 likely to be?

Denman2008

Deco99 wrote: »

Clever cookie out. Whats the rule 4 likely to be?

15p

Johner

James Doyle 4 timer at Windsor, has a great chance to get another in the next.

PM me nudes

PM me nudes wrote: »

Eddie Lynam's Byzantium is well fancied in the 4.10. Group horse running in a handicap apparently.

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Buddy97mm

PM me nudes wrote: »

Eddie Lynam's Byzantium is well fancied in the 4.10. Group horse running in a handicap apparently.

Unlucky I thought, looked the winner, hung badly and lost momentum.

kalinisi

Byzantium & Military Angel should be winning if reproducing those runs again and not hammered by the handicapper

PM me nudes

Byzantemum will be winning Group races by the end of the season, or so I'm told

posturingpat

Byzantium should have won no question in my mind Lordan was too busy striking a pose rather than going and winning the race.

DDC1990

That was a classic exchange on RTE.

RH: Ryan Moore flying over as we speak.
TW: He's here! He's riding War Envoy!
RH: Oh ****! He is.

jimjamcos

Are the lads on RTE drunk? Lol

posturingpat

How in the name of sweet mother divine did o Brien think that animal was good to run today.

kalinisi

posturingpat wrote: »

How in the name of sweet mother divine did o Brien think that animal was good to run today.

Think it was the pace of the race that done his chance, he needs to come of a strong gallop and they went a crawl

posturingpat

One things for certain, if logout island doesn't do the business it'll be a quiet night for me.

DDC1990

The lads are in love with Cash.

HarshOstrich

a fine unraced filly by Aidan o brien on the box, not a bad sire at all

Pinesky

HarshOstrich wrote: »

a fine unraced filly by Aidan o brien on the box, not a bad sire at all

Takes after the dam i'd say .

PM me nudes

Pinesky wrote: »

Takes after the dam i'd say .

Was it Sarah or Ana?

Pinesky

PM me nudes wrote: »

Was it Sarah or Ana?

Sarah

PM me nudes

It's all about Meg Nicholls.

shmeee

shmeee wrote: »

Curragh 5.50
Rockaway Valley NAP @ 4/1 (BFSB, Lads, SJ)

Sick, hammered into 11/8 and an O'Brien 7/1 shot romps home then! When on him, he does you but when against him he hoses up.

That's gambling.

DDC1990

Ted Walsh again caught speaking to Murtagh: Its a long straight fúcking 6 or 7 furlongs.

posturingpat

A speculative little ew play on Kilimanjaro. Ran well until getting unbalanced on the home straight at Epsom and big price

Johner

Johner wrote: »

Will wait for some evens on Jack Hobbs in the morning before backing him. A reproduction of his Epsom run will be enough to take this.

Bang, what a machine. Golden Horn is unreal.

posturingpat

posturingpat wrote: »

A speculative little ew play on Kilimanjaro. Ran well until getting unbalanced on the home straight at Epsom and big price

Only got one gear. Leger next

sdoc13

Very Impressive, Golden Horn must be a machine.