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Other people's rude children

  • 26-06-2015 6:29pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭


    I jog in a park and have lately noticed an increase in the number of I would say 11-14 year old boys gathering around simply slagging joggers off from within the trees.

    This REALLY bothers me when children are calling people "fat" etc - the people they call names are adults, so I would hate to think what they say/do to their peers.

    I would personally be ashamed/disgusted if it were my child, how do people deal with this?

    You can't exactly scream at a child.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Every child that is not your own is rude and annoying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    I thought they were all being fraped on fb ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Every generation thinks those younger than them have no manners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,628 ✭✭✭brevity


    These days its hard to do anything with some feral gombeen roaring something at you. Would be nice if people would just leave people alone but that's a pipe dream.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    222233 wrote: »
    I jog in a park and have lately noticed an increase in the number of I would say 11-14 year old boys gathering around simply slagging joggers off from within the trees.

    This REALLY bothers me when children are calling people "fat" etc - the people they call names are adults, so I would hate to think what they say/do to their peers.

    I would personally be ashamed/disgusted if it were my child, how do people deal with this?

    You can't exactly scream at a child.

    Call them spotty and it should soon shut them up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Run Forrest Run.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    I agree with the OP. Some teens can be very intimidating and abusive, because they know they'll get away with it. I think the current generation are worse than previous ones, they don't fear punishment because they don't get any. If somebody complained to the parents of these kids the odds are that the adult would get a bollocking from the parents because their little angels are incapable of bad behaviour. Pally parenting is a cop out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Donnielighto


    Follow them home.
    Or
    Get a watergun full of piss.
    Or
    Beat the living daylights out of the ringleader.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Ignore it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Donnielighto


    efb wrote: »
    Ignore it.

    Ah ya, head in the sand, let them bother someone else?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    Crowds of feral pre teens and teens congregate outside my parent's house ... My car is in bits they keep bouncing a ball off it, scraping it with their bikes and sitting on it. given up shouting at them it makes them worse :(

    If I had a sniper rifle I could take them all out one by one ... Oh even the thought of it is such satisfaction.

    I now park my car away from he green they loiter on when I come to visit.

    I'd call into the parents but the main ****er who does it his parents don't give a **** :rolleyes: they'd orobsbly damage the car more because I complained.

    I'm not the only one however, they sit on the opposite neighbours wall all the time and bounce balls of the side of his van and hop over the wall to get balls despite the fact that he has a lot of expensive building supplier, they don't give a ****.

    I have a big dog .... But he's not scary enough, I'll borrow a pitbull next time I tell them to get the fcuk off my car to make them fear me more!

    There is around 40 of them .... I'll get a picture of them it's like feeding time at the zoo, mob mentality works well here and young lads showing off to girls think they're so clever and witty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Stop being fat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    efb wrote: »
    Ignore it.

    That's very easy to say but it makes me really uncomfortable when a group of people probably 12 years younger than me are saying inappropriate things, it's embarrassing! Plus a lot of people out jogging / walking are people trying to change their lives, I am not overweight and don't have self confidence issues, but how can it be okay to ignore it if there is some poor person making a decision to come out to change their body and then get shot down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    They're just little punks, they're only brave in their groups. Meet one of them walking alone and they'll stare down at the ground and scuttle past like a pathetic dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    Crowds of feral pre teens and teens congregate outside my parent's house ... My car is in bits they keep bouncing a ball off it, scraping it with their bikes and sitting on it. given up shouting at them it makes them worse :(

    If I had a sniper rifle I could take them all out one by one ... Oh even the thought of it is such satisfaction.

    I now park my car away from he green they loiter on when I come to visit.

    I'd call into the parents but the main ****er who does it his parents don't give a **** :rolleyes: they'd orobsbly damage the car more because I complained.

    I'm not the only one however, they sit on the opposite neighbours wall all the time and bounce balls of the side of his van and hop over the wall to get balls despite the fact that he has a lot of expensive building supplier, they don't give a ****.

    I have a big dog .... But he's not scary enough, I'll borrow a pitbull next time I tell them to get the fcuk off my car to make them fear me more!

    There is around 40 of them .... I'll get a picture of them it's like feeding time at the zoo, mob mentality works well here and young lads showing off to girls think they're so clever and witty

    God that's bloody awful! A lot of the parents genuinely don't give a s*** , so sad that other people have to pay the price for bad parenting and horrid children!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    If I had a sniper rifle I could take them all out one by one ... Oh even the thought of it is such satisfaction.

    I know this was said in jest but this kind of comment really bothers me.

    Do you not understand that if you used a simple grenade you would kill much more of them and with far less work involved?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    Menas wrote: »
    Every generation thinks those younger than them have no manners.

    But they're pretty probably right. I'm pretty sure I was cheeky as a teen... Hoping I've grown into a respectful adult now though. Some, not all, but lots of kids are cheeky and push boundaries to impress their friends and to feel like an adult. Most grow out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    222233 wrote: »
    God that's bloody awful! A lot of the parents genuinely don't give a s*** , so sad that other people have to pay the price for bad parenting and horrid children!

    Was talking to my my dad there, he has a new car (well 2011 car he got it a few months ago) and they were throwing stones at each other beside the car, which is now covered in lovely stone marks :rolleyes:

    He's very ill so doesn't have the energy to find out who did it, we've figured out that the ringleader doesn't even live in the estate ... I might corner my neighbour who's in their gang and ask where they're coming from! Set up a boarder control :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    I know this was said in jest but this kind of comment really bothers me.

    Do you not understand that if you used a simple grenade you would kill much more of them and with far less work involved?

    It's the picking them out one by one slowly, which will serve the kind of justice I feel they deserve. It's the hunt!

    Dinner is served :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Spray Jeyes fluid around marking all the areas they inhabit. It's a widely known fact Johnti, Bosco and the lads don't take to being disinfected......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Offer them sweets from your white van


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    222233 wrote: »
    I jog in a park and have lately noticed an increase in the number of I would say 11-14 year old boys gathering around simply slagging joggers off from within the trees.

    This REALLY bothers me when children are calling people "fat" etc - the people they call names are adults, so I would hate to think what they say/do to their peers.

    I would personally be ashamed/disgusted if it were my child, how do people deal with this?

    You can't exactly scream at a child.


    Ahh here OP, I thought when you said 'other people's children', you were talking about like three and four year olds.

    In this situation I recommend the 'domino effect' approach - pick the mouthiest one of the bunch, and puck the head off the little bastard. The rest of them will usually fall back out of sight.

    No, I don't normally advocate violence against anyone, and especially children, but ferral little fcukers are not children, they're a menace. I'm sure you are able to judge the appropriate application of force required to mortify and not do any permanent damage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Ah ya, head in the sand, let them bother someone else?

    They are looking for a reaction- don't give them the satisfaction


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    Ahh here OP, I thought when you said 'other people's children', you were talking about like three and four year olds.

    In this situation I recommend the 'domino effect' approach - pick the mouthiest one of the bunch, and puck the head off the little bastard. The rest of them will usually fall back out of sight.

    No, I don't normally advocate violence against anyone, and especially children, but ferral little fcukers are not children, they're a menace. I'm sure you are able to judge the appropriate application of force required to mortify and not do any permanent damage.

    Unfortunately my small build/lack of height means I lack physical strength, I really want to say something but I wouldn't stop and what I'd say would be so horrid that I would probably get brought up for child bullying


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    I remember I was one of those kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    I remember I was one of those kids.

    I remember those kids made school a nightmare for quieter kids like me ! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Ahh here OP, I thought when you said 'other people's children', you were talking about like three and four year olds.

    In this situation I recommend the 'domino effect' approach - pick the mouthiest one of the bunch, and puck the head off the little bastard. The rest of them will usually fall back out of sight.

    No, I don't normally advocate violence against anyone, and especially children, but ferral little fcukers are not children, they're a menace. I'm sure you are able to judge the appropriate application of force required to mortify and not do any permanent damage.

    I know but your average Irish adult isn't going to start beating the sh1te out of a 14 year old punk in a public park, most people in general would only resort to physical violence in self defence.

    Getting into a shouting match is no good either, I think ignoring them is the best policy because all they're looking for is a reaction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    I know but your average Irish adult isn't going to start beating the sh1te out of a 14 year old punk in a public park, most people in general would only resort to physical violence in self defence.

    Getting into a shouting match is no good either, I think ignoring them is the best policy because all they're looking for is a reaction.


    I would totally agree usually, BUT then I think if they have the balls to do that to adults, what do they do to people their own age?

    Bullying should be stomped out no matter who its towards, they have obviously been poorly raised etc perhaps something could change that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    I remember I was one of those kids.

    THE ENEMY!


    :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭NormalBob Ubiquitypants


    They are only looking for attention.
    In my day we started a fire if we wanted attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    222233 wrote: »
    Unfortunately my small build/lack of height means I lack physical strength, I really want to say something but I wouldn't stop and what I'd say would be so horrid that I would probably get brought up for child bullying


    If it's a public park you're jogging in OP, you can always make a complaint to the local council. Unfortunately there's not that much you can do about other people's children and their behaviour other than complain to the council or the Gardaí. Sounds like overkill, but those are your only options realistically speaking.

    Is there anyone who could join you as a jogging partner, might make you less of an easy target than jogging on your own at the time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    222233 wrote: »
    I jog in a park and have lately noticed an increase in the number of I would say 11-14 year old boys gathering around simply slagging joggers off from within the trees.

    This REALLY bothers me when children are calling people "fat" etc - the people they call names are adults, so I would hate to think what they say/do to their peers.

    I would personally be ashamed/disgusted if it were my child, how do people deal with this?

    You can't exactly scream at a child.

    In my day it was the 15/17 year olds doing this but nowadays the 15 year olds have already graduated to heroin or drug dealing.

    I cant think of any remedy for your situation OP,Em.....poo on a stick???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    If it's a public park you're jogging in OP, you can always make a complaint to the local council. Unfortunately there's not that much you can do about other people's children and their behaviour other than complain to the council or the Gardaí. Sounds like overkill, but those are your only options realistically speaking.

    Is there anyone who could join you as a jogging partner, might make you less of an easy target than jogging on your own at the time.

    I have made two complaints to no relief :(

    It's not my home place, just my work area so I don't know that many people about, realistically I can jog elsewhere or jog in the mornings but I do like the park


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭whatswhat


    This is exactly how kids turn out when their parents treat them like little Buddhas, worshipping them and believe they can do no wrong. They are not taught respect or even right from wrong these days.
    A clip round the ear never hurt anyone and sure as hell made you not repeat whatever you did wrong. You learned from your mistakes and got told to apologise. Those days are gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Feral

    Feral

    Feral

    I win.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Call them spotty and it should soon shut them up.

    I prefer to use the term 'Pizzaface'......it's more cutting!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    If it's a public park you're jogging in OP, you can always make a complaint to the local council.

    An adult ringing the council because a 12 year old is calling them names will just get laughed at.

    Best thing is to ignore them if they're just making smart comments. Kids can be dicks and always will be, especially in crowds, even with good or bad parents.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    It's the picking them out one by one slowly, which will serve the kind of justice I feel they deserve. It's the hunt!

    Dinner is served :cool:

    I'd be the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    whatswhat wrote: »
    This is exactly how kids turn out when their parents treat them like little Buddhas, worshipping them and believe they can do no wrong. They are not taught respect or even right from wrong these days.
    A clip round the ear never hurt anyone and sure as hell made you not repeat whatever you did wrong. You learned from your mistakes and got told to apologise. Those days are gone.

    The primacy of the "Child" in the modern world is indeed and issue worth debating.

    When we have teenagers regularly appearing in courts with Multiple Convictions on their record,then questions need to be asked....

    Back in the day,the World was a more robust place in this regard...

    https://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/rschwart/hist151/ChildrenQuotations_17th&18th.htm
    Therefore parents must be wary and circumspect, that they never smile or laugh at any words or deeds of their children done lewdly . . . naughtily, wantonly . . . they must correct and sharply reprove their children for saying or doing ill . . . . Robert Cleaver and John Dod, A Godly Form of household Government, 1621


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    You need a jogging partner OP, and next time they say something, just ignore them directly but make a cruel joke about them out loud to your friend and keep jogging


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    anncoates wrote: »
    An adult ringing the council because a 12 year old is calling them names will just get laughed at.

    Best thing is to ignore them if they're just making smart comments. Kids can be dicks and always will be, especially in crowds, even with good or bad parents.


    Well in fairness it wouldn't bother me personally, but if someone is determined to have something done about it, the council would be a good start, and record all complaints.

    Sure, kids can indeed be dicks, but adults don't have to tolerate kids behaving like dicks, and since clipping them round the ear isn't an option for the OP, then best course of action is to complain to the council persistently until she is taken seriously. Sometimes approaching a local councillor might help, but usually they're only interested in what's in it for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Mightydrumming


    A good clip around the ear


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Into The Blue


    Follow them home.
    Or
    Get a watergun full of piss.
    Or
    Beat the living daylights out of the ringleader.

    "Mr Lighto, have you any defence as to why you assaulted the child on the date in question?"
    "Well your honour, it was the name they called me, you see?"
    "And the name Mr Lighto?
    " fatty, your honour ".


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Was talking to my my dad there, he has a new car (well 2011 car he got it a few months ago) and they were throwing stones at each other beside the car, which is now covered in lovely stone marks :rolleyes:

    He's very ill so doesn't have the energy to find out who did it, we've figured out that the ringleader doesn't even live in the estate ... I might corner my neighbour who's in their gang and ask where they're coming from! Set up a boarder control :D

    Ah that's just plain disgusting, the little scumbags.

    The real problem with some kids (teens ) these days is they respect no one, parents, teachers, Guards, other adults. And the reason is...they have absolutely nothing to lose.... Guards cannot touch them, parents have spent years pandering to them or ignoring them...they really are the untouchables....And let me say the unpopular non PC thing, a lot are from single parent families. No father figure to keep them under control.

    Have to say we don't have an issue with this (thankfully) where I live. The kids are polite well mannered and none of this carry on. Thank God....

    But to take advantage of an elderly unwell person, that just makes my blood boil...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    Was at the cinema with the Mrs a few weeks back and had to turn around halfway through to tell three teenage girls in the row behind to shut up. Everyone else was just sitting there letting them talk away amongst themselves ruining the movie. I bit my tongue for long enough.

    After the movie ended it became apparent that they were with a parent who was sitting with her other kids a few rows ahead of me.

    As I was leaving I noticed one of the girls pointing me out to the mother, obviously tattling thinking that I was the one in the wrong and not her and her friends. Spoiled little brat.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I lived in the USuntil my kids were 11/12. Over there if your kid was acting the maggot in the playground or whatever, a complete stranger would take it upon themself to reprimand them. No one was surprised by this...and honestly I think (in general) the middle class American kid is a lot more respectful than equivalent Irish one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Children have got worse fact. Just look at all the youth violence, It was not that bad years ago. Would a German get battered on Patrick's day years ago by feral scumbags ? Children bringing up children. State actually fostering attitudes of “I'm special” Teacher afraid of self entitled students. Idiot parents having zero clue that their little darling gets up to and is like outside the home. Only realising their kid is a scumbag when that are finally brought home in a squad car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Children have got worse fact. Just look at all the youth violence, It was not that bad years ago. Would a German get battered on Patrick's day years ago by feral scumbags ? Children bringing up children. State actually fostering attitudes of “I'm special” Teacher afraid of self entitled students. Idiot parents having zero clue that their little darling gets up to and is like outside the home. Only realising their kid is a scumbag when that are finally brought home in a squad car.


    That's not children getting worse, that's parents becoming less and less effective in instilling discipline and respect for other people in their children, and I don't think at all that it's as another poster suggested that these brats are mostly the children of single or unmarried parents. They're just as likely to come from families where both parents are present, but neither of them give a sh1t for their children's welfare or behaviour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    This stuff went on in my day too.


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