Ethiopian Airlines first flight to Dublin

ken76

So after the fanfare about Dubin being new hub for Ethiopian airlines this happens.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/unexpected-turbulence-at-dublin-airport-seven-passengers-on-inaugural-flight-from-ethiopia-claim-asylum-31332090.html

We are such a soft touch its unbelievable

Caovyn Lineah

So they had paperwork when boarding the flight but nothing when they arrived in Dublin? Ship them straight out on the first possible flight.

JONJO THE MISER

What a joke, anyone who turns up here claiming refuge needs to be turfed out immediately, but dont expect that to happen from the bleeding heart left we have in this country or western europe.

Nodin

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

What a joke, anyone who turns up here claiming refuge needs to be turfed out immediately, ...............

Why, exactly?

ken76

Ah im sure the liberals will want their extended families brought over too

snubbleste

Nothing on rté radio about it yet.

ken76

What danger were these people in if they were rich enough to buy plane tickets for an inaugural flight surely they could of left at any stage? Opportunism at its best

Caovyn Lineah

Nodin wrote: »

Why, exactly?

Why should they be allowed in here?

The Diabolical Monocle

Nodin wrote: »

Why, exactly?

Cause we're broke and they want/need a free everything.

NachoBusiness

Make a great film: Addis Ababa on the Liffey.

ken76

Its not in RTE'S interest to report this

Nodin

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Why should they be allowed in here?

We're obligated under agreement to offer asylum.

The Diabolical monacle wrote:

Cause we're broke and they want/need a free everything.

I take it that's sarcasm?

The_Minister

Well, that's us swimming in Ebola, because Africa is a small landmass and I don't know the difference between countries.

Caovyn Lineah

Nodin wrote: »

We're obligated under agreement to offer asylum.

That doesn't make it right or acceptable

The Diabolical Monocle

Nodin wrote: »

We're obligated under agreement to offer asylum.


I take it that's sarcasm?

Well no, they arrive with nothing and ask to stay in a state with some of Europe's highest rents. Someone obviously pays.

Seamai

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

So they had paperwork when boarding the flight but nothing when they arrived in Dublin? Ship them straight out on the first possible flight.

I was on a flight from Paris to Cork 8 or 9 years ago where two guys in their 20's (possibly middle eastern) ate their passports on the plane, by the time someone had alerted the staff most of the pages (and covers) were gone and they shoved the remainder in their mouths.

RayCon

I've been watching The Tribe on Channel 4 over that past number of weeks - a "fly on the wall" documentary about an Ethiopian tribe's everyday life and to be honest if it was that V's ending up in social housing in Longford - I'd stay where they are.

The_Minister

Seamai wrote: »

I was on a flight from Paris to Cork 8 or 9 years ago where two guys in their 20's (possibly middle eastern) ate their passports on the plane, by the time someone had alerted the staff most of the pages (and covers) were gone and they shoved the remainder in their mouths.

*Pick up passport*

*Takes delicate nibble*

*Calls bullplop*

JCX BXC

It's quite amusing actually. The fact that everyone was saying that there was no way asylum seekers would get access to Ireland and then bahm on the first flight there is 7

The asylum system here is a joke anyway. In order for asylum seekers to be housed and fed they should have to work for it. In order to gain citizenship they must go work on a rural farm. They need to contribute something to society.

snubbleste

Carnacalla wrote: »

It's quite amusing actually. The fact that everyone was saying that there was no way asylum seekers would get access to Ireland and then bahm on the first flight there is 7

The asylum system here is a joke anyway. In order for asylum seekers to be housed and fed they should have to work for it. In order to gain citizenship they must go work on a rural farm. They need to contribute something to society.

A work camp!

Caovyn Lineah

Carnacalla wrote: »

It's quite amusing actually. The fact that everyone was saying that there was no way asylum seekers would get access to Ireland and then bahm on the first flight there is 7

The asylum system here is a joke anyway. In order for asylum seekers to be housed and fed they should have to work for it. In order to gain citizenship they must go work on a rural farm. They need to contribute something to society.

Careful or you'll be labelled a racist

Gatling

Straight back on a plane .
Hoods and cable ties and a slan thanks but no thanks

Nodin

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

That doesn't make it right or acceptable

Actually it makes it both and legal on top of it.

Caovyn Lineah

Nodin wrote: »

Actually it makes it both and legal on top of it.

What right have they to be given asylum in our country? Chances are they will offer nothing to our society while having everything handed to them for free while Irish people suffer of the streets.

c_man

Ha, that's pulling the piss in fairness. On what grounds are they claiming asylum?

FionnK86

My dads in Ethiopia atm with Trinity College, he's doing a Masters in Human Development and working with street children. His lecturer came out to visit, she took KLM to get out there last week and was on that flight on the way back. To be honest, I think Asylum Seekers are amongst the least of our worries....i'd rather have 4 Ethiopians who are willing to work hard and contribute to Irish society, than about 20 Irish so called 'patriots' who sit on O'Connell bridge complaining about how 'de gubermint r crap nd Enda Kenny is shyte', while I work a 49 hour week on minimum wage to go to college.

Collie D

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Careful or you'll be labelled a racist

I think the "race card" was stolen by the right a long time ago

PizzamanIRL

I've a spare room if any of them want it.

They should see this post when they're given free accommodation, wifi and an iPad.

Gatling

I wonder how many asylum seekers we can expect per flight

The Diabolical Monocle

Nodin wrote: »

Actually it makes it both and legal on top of it.

So legal = moral ?

ken76

FionnK86 wrote: »

My dads in Ethiopia atm with Trinity College, he's doing a Masters in Human Development and working with street children. His lecturer came out to visit, she took KLM to get out there last week and was on that flight on the way back. To be honest, I think Asylum Seekers are amongst the least of our worries....i'd rather have 4 Ethiopians who are willing to work hard and contribute to Irish society, than about 20 Irish so called 'patriots' who sit on O'Connell bridge complaining about how 'de gubermint r crap nd Enda Kenny is shyte', while I work a 49 hour week on minimum wage to go to college.

7 isn't the issue.It's the amount that follow.Where does it stop?Or do you think it should just be free for all?Its a joke.they are rich enough to fly on inaugural flight.This us abusing the already abused system. They should be sent home and zero tolerance of this.

Grandpa Hassan

I dont see the problem here, as long as it is handled efficiently. And fast.

1. keep them in a containment area / facility
2. Assess their application
3. If they cannot prove that they are genuinely in danger back in Ethiopia, then get them on the next flight home.

Accepting economic migrants is totally unacceptable

Grandpa Hassan

Gatling wrote: »

I wonder how many asylum seekers we can expect per flight

The more pertinant question is how many 'asylum seekers' are just economic migrants. Who should be sent straight back home

Collie D

ken76 wrote: »

7 isn't the issue.It's the amount that follow.Where does it stop?Or do you think it should just be free for all?Its a joke.they are rich enough to fly on inaugural flight.This us abusing the already abused system. They should be sent home and zero tolerance of this.

Out of curiosity how much was the inaugural flight? It's hardly Concorde or the Titanic

babaracus

Grandpa Hassan wrote: »

I dont see the problem here, as long as it is handled efficiently. And fast.

1. keep them in a containment area / facility
2. Assess their application
3. If they cannot prove that they are genuinely in danger back in Ethiopia, then get them on the next flight home.

Accepting economic migrants is totally unacceptable

The problem is it won't happen that way. There will be interminable delays, legal challenges, high court appeals, judicial reviews etc. etc. In about 7 years they will eventually be given leave to remain after the legal eagles have made a couple of million in fees and some landlord has hoovered up accommodation costs from the State. The asylum system is broken. Decisions should be made in 3 months maximum and they should be held in secure reception centres during that period. Then they should be removed immediately if unsuccessful. But that won't happen.

ken76

Collie D wrote: »

Out of curiosity how much was the inaugural flight? It's hardly Concorde or the Titanic

No its not concorde or Titanic.But I bet it wasn't cheap for the average Ethopian to be able to fly

Crimsonforce

seems they had no problem picking up and paying for a ticket to LA , making sure their documentation is in order and then jumping ship in Dublin.


im confused, "im seeking asylum, Ive just come on the inaugural flight from Ethiopia where we drank champagne on arrival to welcome us as the first flyers to Ireland"

snubbleste

Collie D wrote: »

Out of curiosity how much was the inaugural flight? It's hardly Concorde or the Titanic

A normal return scheduled flight
Add-Dub €700
Add-Lax €1100

Cuban Pete

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Careful or you'll be labelled a racist

Y'know, it's funny: in these discussions, it's almost always people like yourself who use that term.

Crimsonforce

average monthly salary in Ethiopia is Teaching / Education 5,000 ETB

when you convert Ethiopian birr currency, that equates to euros in €216 euros a month

so its at least 3-4 months salary ( for a qualified teacher) to get to Dublin..

NachoBusiness

Relax. I'm sure they're just here to thank Bob for sending all that money back in the 80s.

mynamejeff

Nodin wrote: »

We're obligated under agreement to offer asylum

?
are you sure about that?

they at least 1100 in order to get on the plane and if they were going to LAX they had the correct documents when they got on the plane too.

we are being taken advantage once again by people who want free money despite not needing it and just wanting it.

just what Ireland needs more over entitled people

snubbleste

You make an assumption that the asylum seekers are Ethiopian, Addis is a busy airport, they could be from anywhere.

Ben D Bus

I wonder if any Irish took the next leg to LAX with no plan to come back

VinLieger

Forward them onto the States or straight back Ethiopia, also fine the airline cus ****s and giggles

The Diabolical Monocle

Ben D Bus wrote: »

I wonder if any Irish took the next leg to LAX with no plan to come back

I wonder did anyone from Longford eat their passport en route to Ethiopia.

Caovyn Lineah

Ben D Bus wrote: »

I wonder if any Irish took the next leg to LAX with no plan to come back

And if found do you think they would be allowed to stay in the states and receive benefits and housing over there?

danganabu

Pretty funny that some here seem to assume that if you have any money at all then you can't possibly qualify for assylum :rolleyes:

The assumption that every one that applies for asylum is granted it when the truth is that less than 10% of application are successfull is also amussing but I guess why let the facts get in the way of a good auld rant!

If its the ideal that these people are going to be receiving government handouts and freebies while contributing nothing to society ( no idea where that assumption comes from) then wee need look no further than home!

Ben D Bus

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

And if found do you think they would be allowed to stay in the states and receive benefits and housing over there?

Yes, eventually

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/undocumented-irish-immigrants-usa-1791798-Nov2014/

Crimsonforce

danganabu wrote: »

Pretty funny that some here seem to assume that if you have any money at all then you can't possibly qualify for assylum :rolleyes:

The assumption that every one that applies for asylum is granted it when the truth is that less than 10% of application are successfull is also amussing but I guess why let the facts get in the way of a good auld rant!

If its the ideal that these people are going to be receiving government handouts and freebies while contributing nothing to society ( no idea where that assumption comes from) then wee need look no further than home!

You must be sailing around on your Greenpeace ship.

crazygeryy

Crimsonforce wrote: »

seems they had no problem picking up and paying for a ticket to LA , making sure their documentation is in order and then jumping ship in Dublin.


im confused, "im seeking asylum, Ive just come on the inaugural flight from Ethiopia where we drank champagne on arrival to welcome us as the first flyers to Ireland"

i wonder would they have been let into L. a . they would in their holes.