Teachers

PTH2009

In your adult life if someone spoke to u the way in which your old teachers spoke to u when u were in school would u not tell them to **** off ??

I got fair abuse off teachers in my school days such as being called lazy , a failure , always causing trouble etc. It was only in college that I found out I was dyslexic so that probley caused some of my low grades in school . I wasn't even a trouble maker

Some teachers I had were too up themselves like ' OK class when I call ur name off the attendance book u must answer in 'attendance miss' and nothing else if u say here or yeah miss u will be in trouble'. When she entered the room we all had to stand up and wait till she tells us to sit down. Teachers often make u feel so down by humiliating u in front of the class, uniform inspectors were the worst instead if taking u outside they used to shame u in front of the class for missing ur tie or not wearing the right colour shoes etc. College life is much better lectures are much better and actually help u and u can call them by first name and even some lectuers socialize with there students.

Your opinions on school life

NachoBusiness

Great whiskey.

Grayson

PTH2009 wrote: »

In your adult life if someone spoke to u the way in which your old teachers spoke to u when u were in school would u not tell them to **** off ??

I got fair abuse off teachers in my school days such as being called lazy , a failure , always causing trouble etc. It was only in college that I found out I was dyslexic so that probley caused some of my low grades in school . I wasn't even a trouble maker

Some teachers I had were too up themselves like ' OK class when I call ur name off the attendance book u must answer in 'attendance miss' and nothing else if u say here or yeah miss u will be in trouble'. When she entered the room we all had to stand up and wait till she tells us to sit down. Teachers often make u feel so down by humiliating u in front of the class, uniform inspectors were the worst instead if taking u outside they used to shame u in front of the class for missing ur tie or not wearing the right colour shoes etc. College life is much better lectures are much better and actually help u and u can call them by first name and even some lectuers socialize with there students.

Your opinions on school life

Great preparation for taking sh1t from a crappy boss.

endacl

PTH2009 wrote: »

In your adult life if someone spoke to u the way in which your old teachers spoke to u when u were in school would u not tell them to **** off ??

I got fair abuse off teachers in my school days such as being called lazy , a failure , always causing trouble etc. It was only in college that I found out I was dyslexic so that probley caused some of my low grades in school . I wasn't even a trouble maker

Some teachers I had were too up themselves like ' OK class when I call ur name off the attendance book u must answer in 'attendance miss' and nothing else if u say here or yeah miss u will be in trouble'. When she entered the room we all had to stand up and wait till she tells us to sit down. Teachers often make u feel so down by humiliating u in front of the class, uniform inspectors were the worst instead if taking u outside they used to shame u in front of the class for missing ur tie or not wearing the right colour shoes etc. College life is much better lectures are much better and actually help u and u can call them by first name and even some lectuers socialize with there students.

Your opinions on school life

Did they not teach a bit of spelling and punctuation at all, in between the berating and belittling?

shane9689

Think of it as an introduction to the real world, where no one gives a fkuc what you think is fair, and the only way to survive is to thrive...

FloatingVoter

Yes, lecturers will socialise with and occasionally sleep with their students. They also have a low tolerance for unoriginal thought conveyed through bad English.
Don't worry, you'll get to repeat your exams in August while thems what can spell is on the beach.

Charlie19

Not a badly priced whiskey.

Robsweezie

endacl wrote:

Did they not teach a bit of spelling and punctuation at all, in between the berating and belittling?

Bit of a cheap dig considering he openly stated he was dyslexic.

RedemptionZ

endacl wrote: »

Did they not teach a bit of spelling and punctuation at all, in between the berating and belittling?

He said he had dyslexia tbf. No need to be a dick.

I agree OP, but I think it should probably gradually get looser in terms of strictness. When you're 8 years old teachers shouldn't be treating you like a mate, you'd get **** all work done. When you're 16 or over though it's really up to you to do the work, not your teacher, so you shouldn't be expected to do any of that stupid 'yes sir' stuff.

endacl

Robsweezie wrote: »

Bit of a cheap dig considering he openly stated he was dyslexic.

My bad. Apologies OP.

Mightydrumming

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Yes, lecturers will socialise with and occasionally sleep with their students. They also have a low tolerance for unoriginal thought conveyed through bad English.
Don't worry, you'll get to repeat your exams in August while thems what can spell is on the beach.

Next time - read the full post. I love the way people jump straight in.

humberklog

Well, you're over it and that's what's important.

syklops

Grayson wrote: »

Great preparation for taking sh1t from a crappy boss.

+ several million.

It doesnt change OP. No teacher ever accused me of disrupting the class, because I kept my head down in school. Keep your head down in life for an easier life.

And I still get inappropriate comments from managers because they were in a bad mood.

Robsweezie

OP it comes across that you may just hate authority. Which is normal as none of us necessarily like to take direction and instruction from the "higher ups".

FloatingVoter

Apologies, OP. Another thing lecturers crucify you for is not bothering to read the question. I'll fetch the nails and the cross.
Best wishes in the future and yes, schoolteachers can have a touch of the mini-Hitlers about them. They're behind you now.

NachoBusiness

I had one teacher who choked me and then said he never laid a hand on me. I was only eleven at the time. Uniform inspector teachers I always hated. Was also told in secondary school that if I didn't cut my hair I would have to wear it tied up with a hair bobbin. They thought this rule would mean I would cut my hair out of embarrassment but I didn't. Wore the damn thing for three years. Few other students did also.

Dyslexic also and didn't find out for years after. One thing I always could never do was memorize a poem and got detention a bunch of times for 'not bothering' to do that aspect of homework. In saying all that, I loved that time of my life despite the numpties.

I teach English in another country and I tried being the cool nice teacher for about a year or 18 months.. Everyone tries it because you think you're doing a good job if the kids are happy and it's less stressful for you.

Then you realize most kids learn nothing from that and you have to start being stricter and forget about being liked. Being the cool teacher only works for the good students.. Others have to be forced to learn or they'll drop behind from even one year of teenage angst.

Obviously, OP's teachers, like most of ours, were too strict and were proper asses but there's a middle ground. Rapport with the enthusiastic students but strict enough for others to be made do it. Treating a class of primary or secondary like they're adults in university should get you fired. It's the easy way out where you end up forgetting that most of the class exists. They're too young to make their own choice about whether or not they want to learn.

whisky_galore

PTH2009 wrote: »

Your opinions on school life

"Best days of your life"......My hole.

R.D. aka MR.D

Deleted User wrote: »

I teach English in another country and I tried being the cool nice teacher for about a year or 18 months.. Everyone tries it because you think you're doing a good job if the kids are happy and it's less stressful for you.

Then you realize most kids learn nothing from that and you have to start being stricter and forget about being liked. Being the cool teacher only works for the good students.. Others have to be forced to learn or they'll drop behind from even one year of teenage angst.

Obviously, OP's teachers, like most of ours, were too strict and were proper asses but there's a middle ground. Rapport with the enthusiastic students but strict enough for others to be made do it. Treating a class of primary or secondary like they're adults in university should get you fired. It's the easy way out where you end up forgetting that most of the class exists. They're too young to make their own choice about whether or not they want to learn.

Couldn't agree with this more. There is a reason that teachers are strict. It's so that you straighten up and fly right. If I show you respect then you need to show me respect by being on time and doing what I ask you.

I had a few teachers in secondary school who didn't show the students any respect by not knowing their subject or constantly being uninterested. Those teachers don't deserve any consideration but usually the super strict teachers are the ones who care.

I care about my students and know that they can do it if they try. Unfortunately, maybe 60% of students don't have the get up and go to try without some one giving them a bit of a push.

I do agree that uniform rules are stupid. I can't see how they contribute to learning in any way.

The Backwards Man

Only good enough for hots and Irish coffees imo

El Weirdo

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Great whiskey.

Whisky.

newport2

whisky_galore wrote: »

"Best days of your life"......My hole.

Indeed. College best years of your life, no doubt. Freedom, booze and SFA responsibility. It was great.....

Robsweezie

R.D. aka MR.D wrote:

I do agree that uniform rules are stupid. I can't see how they contribute to learning in any way.

One thing I will say about uniforms is that they take away the need to constantly have a new outfit ready for the school day, and prevents competition and bullying with clothes among students, who has the latest airmax Runners etc. Everyone appears the same so they're all on even footing. No one is made to feel inferior over their fashion sense. And a uniform can give a sense of belonging to kids.

But on the flipside there is the individuality and freedom of expression that's being taken away once a uniform is imposed, and the oppressive feeling of being a number in a system.

I hate those petty uniform rules that themselves get in the way of learning and often result in removal from class like lack of tie etc.

dont bother

from the age of 4 when i began my school career, i wasnt taking sh!t from ANY teacher. i had this thing, where i wanted to be treated the same as adults are treated, and i always answered back, gave out to THEM, and when i was in secondary school, because of me never taking a word of their sh!te lying down, i was suspended 4 times and then ultimately expelled a few months before my leaving cert. needless to say i kicked up a huge fuss, and was let back in a week later after a nice rest.

most teachers ARE cvnts, but i realise now, only if you expect them to treat you with any respect, thus not giving THEM the respect you should... as a child, i suppose.

i hated school.

Tilikum

endacl wrote: »

My bad. Apologies OP.

They clearly didn't teach you how to read.

Stojkovic

Some were great but most were trumped up power seekers who had a fetish for kicking the **** out of kicks.

And long holidays of course.

I remember the good ones and know karma will catch up on the abusers.

melissak

Op said he/she was dyslexic in all fairness. Did you learn any empathy in school

endacl wrote: »

Did they not teach a bit of spelling and punctuation at all, in between the berating and belittling?

melissak

melissak wrote: »

Op said he/she was dyslexic in all fairness. Did you learn any empathy in school

Sorry. This was already covered

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Teachers are like any other group of professionals. There are good ones, bad ones and mediocre ones.

Yes, some go over the top with discipline, invent petty rules for no obvious reason, and think it's okay to make personal remarks to children in front of the class. And that's wrong.

But there are also lots of good teacher who have endless patience and are very committed to what they do.

Saying things like 'most teachers are c*nts' is just ridiculous and childish.

ScumLord

Robsweezie wrote: »

Bit of a cheap dig considering he openly stated he was dyslexic.

I don't think dyslexia is an excuse for using "U" instead of "you". There's dyslexia and then there's just not trying.


It could always have been worse OP. I was in school in the 80s and got beat throughout, the headmaster took a special interest in me, keeping me in most lunch breaks, isolating me because I didn't like GAA. I knew he was particularly upset when he told me to take off my glasses so he could hit me in the face.

I don't know where the middle ground is, schools today may be to soft but the school I grew up in was completely ineffective. I learned next to nothing in school and left with complete disdain for authority. I should have loved school based on the kind of person I am now.

smash

PTH2009 wrote: »

I got fair abuse off teachers in my school days such as being called lazy , a failure , always causing trouble etc.

These are the kind of people who aren't happy with their own life or how it turned out. They'll then meet you in future and if you've amounted to nothing in their eyes they'll say "told you so", but if you've exceeded their expectations they'll say it was because they pushed you to be better.

Basically these kinds of people are just arseholes.

I had a lecturer in college who would demean students in a similar way. We were all grown adults, paying handsome tuition fees to have him talk at us for two hours per week (no questions allowed), breaking only for melt-downs anytime he spied a late arrival, or a student opening their laptop, or even caught daydreaming.

If he wasn't screeching at such culprits, he'd try to shame them with ridicule.

He is a heavyweight in his academic field, and nobody in authority had the balls to discipline him. He regularly appears on TV as a wizardy old expert, and I acknolwedge his talent, it's just a shame he's also a magnificent cúnt

wp_rathead

Some people who are teachers are great disciplinarians - but dreadful at teaching
Luckily I only had one of them in secondary school

Kev W

whisky_galore wrote: »

"Best days of your life"......My hole.

I feel genuinely bad for people who say school was the best years of their lives because in their case it's probably true.

One eyed Jack

melissak wrote: »

Op said he/she was dyslexic in all fairness. Did you learn any empathy in school

melissa I have empathy for anyone with learning difficulties, but dyslexia is no excuse for poor spelling nowadays with modern technology. I was diagnosed with severe dyslexia at 7 years of age, it's one of the reasons why I absolutely despise the word 'retard' or calling someone 'retarded' being bandied about this site sometimes, because that's exactly how I was labelled by classmates.

My teachers were nothing short of incredible in school, and I made every effort to try and improve my writing, reading, verbal and comprehension skills. I was lucky enough to have been diagnosed early, unlike some of the posters here whom it seems were only discovered to be dyslexic later in their school years.

That was over 30 years ago, and nowadays teaching is nothing like it was back then. Nowadays teachers are much more aware of cognitive and learning difficulties (I was lucky my mother was my teacher at the time and could tell something wasn't right), and there are many more supports in place for children now than there were back then.

The problem as I see it nowadays isn't teachers, the problem is that far too much leeway and class time is given to students who don't want to learn, as opposed to students who learn differently from other students. It's easy accommodate students who learn differently, it's not so easy accommodate students who simply have no will to learn.

The_Valeyard

El Weirdo wrote: »

Whisky.

No. Use the feckin E.

whisky_galore

Kev W wrote: »

I feel genuinely bad for people who say school was the best years of their lives because in their case it's probably true.

Usually doled out by an older generation where beatings and administering kicks up the ar*e were commonplace.

The_Valeyard

Was just thinking some of the best teachers I had, were the ones who would rip the absolute piss out of us if we were messing. Make sure you didn't do it again.

The Backwards Man

The_Valeyard wrote: »

No. Use the feckin E.

Scotch whisky has no E

diusmr8a504cvk

syklops wrote: »

+ several million.

It doesnt change OP. No teacher ever accused me of disrupting the class, because I kept my head down in school. Keep your head down in life for an easier life.

And I still get inappropriate comments from managers because they were in a bad mood.

YOU are an example of what is wrong with society, the type of person that gets a job, raises a family and dies.

dont bother

Samson Harsh Dungeon wrote: »

YOU are an example of what is wrong with society, the type of person that gets a job, raises a family and dies.

woah. completely agree.

what a waste!!! why not just speak up!?

i have one main rule - never talk bad about people behind their backs.
say it to their ugly faces instead, and that way you get to watch them wince.

biko

El Weirdo wrote: »

Whisky.

Are you dyslectic too :P

c68zapdsm5i1ru

syklops wrote: »

+ several million.

It doesnt change OP. No teacher ever accused me of disrupting the class, because I kept my head down in school. Keep your head down in life for an easier.

Yes, it's people like you that really make a difference to society:rolleyes:

I presume you're the type of neighbour that sits back and presumes 'someone else' will solve the anti social problems going on in your neighbourhood etc.
Your idea of an 'easier life' is:

'letting someone else fight all my battles while I smugly claim to"'not get involved"'.

Nothing to be proud of. What a pathetic attitude.

jimgoose

Lecturers are usually impoverished post-grads with the fear of hell in them between the bank and whoever is supposed to be financing their thesis on "Digital Meeja And Its Influence On Lucy Kennedy's Rubber Tits" threatening to break their legs every other day. The only difference between them and teachers is teachers speak Irish and can't be fired regardless of what calibre of blithering idiot they are. The best thing to do is get it over with and join the real world as soon as possible.

The_Valeyard

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Scotch whisky has no E

I am aware of this, and its still wrong.

Meangadh

Isabelle Chilly Grits wrote: »

Teachers are like any other group of professionals. There are good ones, bad ones and mediocre ones.

Yes, some go over the top with discipline, invent petty rules for no obvious reason, and think it's okay to make personal remarks to children in front of the class. And that's wrong.

But there are also lots of good teacher who have endless patience and are very committed to what they do.

Saying things like 'most teachers are c*nts' is just ridiculous and childish.

Hear hear. I've encountered crap hairdressers, incompetent waiters, inefficient shopkeepers, douchebag barmen, grumpy doctors etc etc. There are a-holes in every profession. Doesn't mean they're all bad.

Isabelle Chilly Grits wrote: »

Yes, it's people like you that really make a difference to society:rolleyes:

I presume you're the type of neighbour that sits back and presumes 'someone else' will solve the anti social problems going on in your neighbourhood etc.
Your idea of an 'easier life' is:

'letting someone else fight all my battles while I smugly claim to"'not get involved"'.

Nothing to be proud of. What a pathetic attitude.

I disagree with that completely- you're assuming that putting your head down is the same thing as putting your head in the sand. All the way through school and now in my job, I put the head down and try and avoid drama as much as possible. I never wanted to cause trouble in school, and I'm the same in my job now. But, if there was ever a situation where I felt there was an injustice, or that something wasn't quite right, or that I was being accused of something I didn't do, I spoke/speak up. Calmly, cooly and confidently.

You don't have to be the type to ruffle feathers to be able to make changes.

I'm a teacher and far more likely to listen to a student who approaches me if they have an issue with me in that manner than one who shouts at me and abuses me. It's about respect.

I should say also that I have heard those kinds of teachers who treat those students with disrespect (and for the most part it's with male students- as if they should be able to take the abuse and get over it. Awful.) and I cringed every time. Like even the thing of calling young lads by their surname. Fine if their friends want to, but their teachers shouldn't. It's demeaning.

Kids/teenagers need to be treated with authority or they'll walk all over you though. But you can be authoritative without being a prick.

Mr Rhode Island Red

95% of them are asses; they're either abusive, bullies, or disinterested in their job.

The other 5% are decent human beings that treat students as equals and are sound.

Meangadh

Mr Rhode Island Red wrote: »

95% of them are asses; they're either abusive, bullies, or disinterested in their job.

The other 5% are decent human beings that treat students as equals and are sound.

Nice.

The_Valeyard

Mr Rhode Island Red wrote: »

95% of them are asses; they're either abusive, bullies, or disinterested in their job.

The other 5% are decent human beings that treat students as equals and are sound.

No personal bias in this post!!!

Mr Rhode Island Red

The_Valeyard wrote: »

No personal bias in this post!!!

Apologies. Let me clarify my post.

From the limited, non-representative sample of teachers that I have had any dealings with during my time in school...

95% of them are asses and the other 5% are decent human beings.

evolving_doors

ya lets get'em