NCT [brake hose scam]

Hoffmans

BRAKE HOSE SCAM

Anyone else been recieving end of this
Involves the tester overstretching the rubber hose to caliper and causing rubber coating on the coil to crack, the rubber coating is insulation for the coil and has no bearing on brake line I tegrity

They call it frayed or cut then take your 28bux for a retest handy money...

Pov06

Hoffmans wrote: »

BRAKE HOSE SCAM

Anyone else been recieving end of this
Involves the tester overstretching the rubber hose to caliper and causing rubber coating on the coil to crack, the rubber coating is insulation for the coil and has no bearing on brake line I tegrity

They call it frayed or cut then take your 28bux for a retest handy money...

It's BS, that's all I can say...

Hoffmans

Poof of bs plz?
Its happening gach lá
Just like the headlamp beam scam they were using few years back

TheChizler

Proof of scam is normally the way these things work. You can't make a claim and then say "prove me wrong".

savagethegoat

what is being suggested would mean the tester is doing this so that NCT can make €28...what's in it for him? it's nonsense.

Pov06

savagethegoat wrote: »

what is being suggested would mean the tester is doing this so that NCT can make €28...what's in it for him? it's nonsense.

More like people bringing lemons to the NCT and expecting them to pass...

Hoffmans

Lemons testing cars more like ,they have a daily fail quota and the brake hose insulation scam is their new favourite tool
To achieve this...

jimgoose

Hoffmans wrote: »

Lemons testing cars more like ,they have a daily fail quota and the brake hose insulation scam is their new favourite tool
To achieve this...

I must say I find the whole notion a little far-fetched. :pac:

vandriver

If the NCT centres are running at 100% anyway,there is no need for measures to drum up a bit of business.
As for a quota to fail everyday(!),the great Irish attitude to servicing takes care of that.

nct tester

Fail quota my hole

slimjimmc

Aren't most flexible brake hoses made as either of two types:
standard : rubber hose reinforced with a fabric braid sandwiched between the inner and outer rubber layer.
steel braided : a rubber/plastic hose wrapped in a steel braid. The steel braid may be coated or not.

Where's the coil in a brake hose? If you mean a rubber coating over a steel braid then, if the coating is to protect to braid from being weakened by corrosion, it makes sense to fail the hose.

CJhaughey

Hoffmans wrote: »

BRAKE HOSE SCAM

Anyone else been recieving end of this
Involves the tester overstretching the rubber hose to caliper and causing rubber coating on the coil to crack, the rubber coating is insulation for the coil and has no bearing on brake line I tegrity

They call it frayed or cut then take your 28bux for a retest handy money...

You'd want to be stronger than the Hulk to be able to tear a rubber brake hose with your fingers.
If they are in fact good they will handle more pressure than I could ever apply with my hands
If they are in fact cracked then they should be replaced,

BTW the rubber hose is not insulation its reinforcement to stop the hose bulging out under pressure.
If the rubber cracks and the hose bulges and bursts then that circuit fails and you are left with feck all braking.
If you want to post information be it fictional or factual at least get your information correct.

Hoffmans

CJhaughey wrote: »

BTW the rubber hose is not insulation its reinforcement to stop the hose bulging out under pressure.
If the rubber cracks and the hose bulges and bursts then that circuit fails and you are left with feck all braking.
If you want to post information be it fictional or factual at least get your information correct.

So the question remains why send the car back out on the road , I mean aren't brakes essential for safe motoring?
Or can we debunk this aswell

biko

Why are you bring up an old thread with wild accusations you have zero proof of?

slimjimmc

Hoffmans wrote: »

So the question remains why send the car back out on the road , I mean aren't brakes essential for safe motoring?
Or can we debunk this aswell

Because the assessor has deemed the cracking to be not so severe as to be dangerous. They can only mark a car "Fail Dangerous" if it has

NCT Manual 2014 wrote:

defects that constitute a direct and immediate risk to road safety such that the vehicle should not be used on the road under any circumstances

Hoffmans

For the nct reps here , this is Just One more issue to be aware of when applying for the national car tax cert by a private company trading for profit with no competition...

Remember the recent deathtraps that walked through the nct sham...

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/unroadworthy-car-passed-nct-before-fatal-crash-inquest-31161039.html

http://www.corkindependent.com/20140918/news/it-was-a-rustbucket-S91225.html

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/nct-mechanics-test-scam-may-see-cars-rechecked-26011100.html

savagethegoat

there are criminals in all walks of life and I'm quite prepared to accept it may be possible to bribe your way through an NCT but the NCT is there for your own safety and you'd be a fool to do this. You cannot rely on an NCT cert as proof the car is safe (especially when buying a car). You need to ensure this yourself. It is perfectly possible for a fault to arise on the way back from the test centre.

However I thought the issue in this thread was NCT operatives operating a scam by introducing faults themselves. Is it that , having no evidence to offer, you are switching the argument elsewhere? Are you just on an anti-NCT crusade?

nct tester

Who are the NCT reps??

biko

It's a forum way to make out that anyone opposing your opinion is somehow a rep for the company. Also see "shinner bots" in AH and Politics.

Hoffmans, you still haven't provided any type of proof of your original claim that nct testers interfere with the brake hose to force a re-test.
Did it happen to yourself or to anyone you know, or was it pub-talk?

NCT tests a million cars per year, give or take and although it is plausible a single tester will do something wrong I would think that messing with a brake hose is probably not something they'd do when there are a hundred other things they could do to force a re-test without putting lives at stake.

JustTheOne

Survey in America found .03% of road accidents caused by things the nct would fail on.

challengemaster

Conspiracy theories forum is ---->>

flintash

Hoffman, please face reality of current nct system, there is nothing you can do about it. Its money making scam, and if you think you can bring this cancer down, good luck boy!

jca

JustTheOne wrote: »

Survey in America found .03% of road accidents caused by things the nct would fail on.

The Yanks obviously never saw the heaps of ****e people in Ireland were driving prior to the nct.

CJhaughey

I am not an NCT apologist, I do believe that competition is healthy especially where there is a Monopoly in place, there should be a few more test centres, as it stands some people have to drive a long way to get to a test centre.

I remember the launch and they were saying that no motorist would have to travel more than 40 miles to get tested.
That soon went out the window and some people have to travel an awful long way to get tested.
All of the centres are very busy and it just shows that there should be more to carry the load.