Commercial Vehicle parking in private estate

Dregolan

Hi all, a large truck has started parking across the road from my house.

At the weekend they had a jeep parked at the end of my driveway and were unloading materials onto the road and up to the truck.

I spoke to them and asked them where they live (in the hope of convincing them park outside their own house) but they told me they don't even live in our estate!

I then told them not to park there but I'm not sure they understood (or cared) as they parked the truck there again tonight.

I spoke to the guards about the best course of action and they said to call them if they show up again but I wont be able to time that as they generally show up and leave the truck before Im home.

I was thinking of leaving them a note as it may be a while before I catch them again but first off, is this illegal?

Can you park a commercial vehicle in a private estate you don't live in?

seamus

Is it a managed estate? Is the vehicle causing an obstruction - i.e. blocking traffic or parked on the path or grass verge?

Dregolan

seamus wrote: »

Is it a managed estate? Is the vehicle causing an obstruction - i.e. blocking traffic or parked on the path or grass verge?

Hi Seamus, it isn't a managed estate but they are parked on a path completely blocking it. Would this count or could they get around this by not blocking the path and parking more on the road?

slimjimmc

Unqualified opinion:
Parking on the footpath is an offence which is punishable by a fine if you can get a Garda out to detect it. If they're legally parked on the road (not blocking the path or an entrance) and it's a public place then there's very little you can do about it. The local authority may have bye-laws banning overnight parking of HGVs so that might be something to look into, otherwise I don't see how it is illegal to park a commercial vehicle is any housing estate, whether you live there or not. Just because the locals don't like it doesn't make it illegal.

Dregolan

slimjimmc wrote: »

Unqualified opinion:
Parking on the footpath is an offence which is punishable by a fine if you can get a Garda out to detect it. If they're legally parked on the road (not blocking the path or an entrance) and it's a public place then there's very little you can do about it. The local authority may have bye-laws banning overnight parking of HGVs so that might be something to look into, otherwise I don't see how it is illegal to park a commercial vehicle is any housing estate, whether you live there or not. Just because the locals don't like it doesn't make it illegal.

Thanks slim!

MarkAnthony

I had a word with some guards about the prattish parking in areas of D8 they advised it was a case of getting on to the council regards them parking on the footpath.

Dregolan

MarkAnthony wrote: »

I had a word with some guards about the prattish parking in areas of D8 they advised it was a case of getting on to the council regards them parking on the footpath.

Hi Mark, thanks for info, I've spoken to the gardai, they're gonna drop out to take a look but I would guess it's gonna be on the grounds that they block the path that they will be moved.

I just think it's mad that they can pull up across from anyone's house even if they live nowhere near it and turn this space into a mini industrial estate - parking and loading vehicles every day.

How much space is there available for parking? Could a car park there legally and make it impractical for them to continue?

Dregolan

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How much space is there available for parking? Could a car park there legally and make it impractical for them to continue?

Hey pg633, yes and we actually tried this yesterday but they just parked further up the road in front of our neighbors house. Not fair on the lady next door and we cant be parked there all the time as they are usually back before us in the evening.

barman linen

Dregolan wrote: »

I just think it's mad that they can pull up across from anyone's house even if they live nowhere near it and turn this space into a mini industrial estate - parking and loading vehicles every day.

Depending on the type and size of vehicle there may be a requirement to park the truck in a place registered to the truck operator licence. I am a long while away from the industry but I think this was part of CPC regulations.....try posting in a forum where truckers will respond on the legislation regarding the overnight parking of commercial vehicles.

Mr. Incognito

There was a truck that used to park outside my house over night.

One night, mysteriously all the air was let out of all of the tyres. Not slashed. Not criminal damage, just expelled, magically from the valve.

It took a few days for them to find equipment to reinflate the tyres which must have cost them a considerable amount in lost Revenue.

Unfortunately there were no witnesses in the vicinity and the landowner on whose land they were parked was not there that evening as he had a dinner date and a receipt for same.

It didnt park there again.

Grolschevik

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

the landowner on whose land they were parked

This appears to be on a public road, not private land.

And http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1961/en/act/pub/0024/sec0113.html

Mr. Incognito

Grolschevik wrote: »

This appears to be on a public road, not private land.

And http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1961/en/act/pub/0024/sec0113.html

they told me they don't even live in our estate!

Unless the roads have been taken into the charge of the local authority- it's not a public road. One quick phonecall would resolve that

Marcusm

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

There was a truck that used to park outside my house over night.

One night, mysteriously all the air was let out of all of the tyres. Not slashed. Not criminal damage, just expelled, magically from the valve.

It took a few days for them to find equipment to reinflate the tyres which must have cost them a considerable amount in lost Revenue.

Unfortunately there were no witnesses in the vicinity and the landowner on whose land they were parked was not there that evening as he had a dinner date and a receipt for same.

It didnt park there again.

Seeing as it rendered the vehicle unfit for use, albeit temporarily, I would be surprised if it was not criminal damage.

Dregolan

Hi All,

Gardai came and within the hour the van was gone! thanks for all the help folks!

Grolschevik

Dregolan wrote: »

Hi All,

Gardai came and within the hour the van was gone! thanks for all the help folks!

For clarification, was it parked on a public road (albeit illegally on the pavement)?

Or was in within a managed (management company) development?

(The term 'estate' seems to be fluid these days...)

NeVeR

let the air out of the tires every night ... they will soon move it.

kop-end

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

There was a truck that used to park outside my house over night.

One night, mysteriously all the air was let out of all of the tyres. Not slashed. Not criminal damage, just expelled, magically from the valve.

It took a few days for them to find equipment to reinflate the tyres which must have cost them a considerable amount in lost Revenue.

Unfortunately there were no witnesses in the vicinity and the landowner on whose land they were parked was not there that evening as he had a dinner date and a receipt for same.

It didnt park there again.

Nice

goz83

They have just as much right to park there as the person living beside the road. Sure, it stinks, but that's just tough luck. This assumes that it's a public road with no local regs against parking HGV's. That said, it should not block access, or the pathway, which is why it was likely moved on.