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how much for topping?

  • 13-06-2015 11:45am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭


    Mower just packed it in. How much would you pay a neighbour to top per acre?? I want to be fair and he will be using all his own gear. Cheers


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    kevinm177 wrote: »
    Mower just packed it in. How much would you pay a neighbour to top per acre?? I want to be fair and he will be using all his own gear. Cheers

    Tenner an acre and give him tea and biscuits when finished.

    Or get a few pig tails and wire and some hungry bullocks or cows. Ya could even charge someone to graze it.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 260 ✭✭Jimlh86


    Apologise if I'm hijacking the thread but I'm looking at a second hand abbey topper, anything I should look out for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    Jimlh86 wrote: »
    Apologise if I'm hijacking the thread but I'm looking at a second hand abbey topper, anything I should look out for?

    Trailer , mounted to the side or behind??


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 260 ✭✭Jimlh86


    9935452 wrote: »
    Trailer , mounted to the side or behind??

    Sorry mounted behind, the cover is slightly rough but not bad everything else looks visually okay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭316


    AP2014 wrote: »
    Tenner an acre and give him tea and biscuits when finished.

    I would rather draw the dole than get €10 an acre, getting tea and rich tea biscuits no doubt afterwards would be another fine insult. Alot of feeding tea and biscuits are.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    316 wrote: »
    I would rather draw the dole than get €10 an acre, getting tea and rich tea biscuits no doubt afterwards would be another fine insult. Alot of feeding tea and biscuits are.

    How much would ya charge?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭316


    Without seeing the land its impossible to say, per hour price would be the way for pricing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    316 wrote: »
    Without seeing the land its impossible to say, per hour price would be the way for pricing.

    Lets say flat land and just grass. How many acres would you get done per hour and how much would you charge?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭316


    Depends on what tractor and topper leaves the shed :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    316 wrote: »
    Depends on what tractor and topper leaves the shed :pac:

    So to answer the Ops question ya haven't a clue. €10 an acre, ya would get 4 done on flat ground in an hour. Seems decent to me. Tea and digestive biscuits instead of rich tea.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭316


    I have more than a clue, anything less than €15 an acre plus vat and your only a busy fool.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    316 wrote: »
    I have more than a clue, anything less than €15 an acre plus vat and your only a busy fool.

    Grand so, how many acres would ya do in an hour on flat ground? Just grass no heavy rushes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭316


    No one expects the Spanish inquisition.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    316 wrote: »
    No one expects the Spanish inquisition.

    Beginning to think ya don't have a topper :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭316


    Im not being smart but how much topping you do an hour depends what size of equipment you are using.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    316 wrote: »
    Im not being smart but how much topping you do an hour depends what size of equipment you are using.

    Fair enough, just looking for averages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭sean1141


    10 euro an hour and use your own tractor and topper ha.. I'd say at least 25 Ph


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    sean1141 wrote: »
    10 euro an hour and use your own tractor and topper ha.. I'd say at least 25 Ph

    30 euro per hour I'd charge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    316 wrote: »
    I have more than a clue, anything less than €15 an acre plus vat and your only a busy fool.
    Almost €20/acre I'd top it with the hedge clippers first.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Almost €20/acre I'd top it with the hedge clippers first.

    +1000, lads charging €20 or €30 for mowing silage. How the hell would it be anyway financially beneficial to pay €30 an acre for topping. Lads would want to get the pigtails and wire out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    316 wrote: »
    I have more than a clue, anything less than €15 an acre plus vat and your only a busy fool.

    Ah will ye go away. Sure it's only 25e an acre to get a lad in with a big trailed conditioner mower to knock a big crop of silage.
    he'd burn alot more diesel than you would


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Looks like 316's topper will be spending lots of time in the shed :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Looks like 316's topper will be spending lots of time in the shed :)

    With the multiple hp tractors :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    AP2014 wrote: »
    +1000, lads charging €20 or €30 for mowing silage. How the hell would it be anyway financially beneficial to pay €30 an acre for topping. Lads would want to get the pigtails and wire out.

    Its 10 euro an acre here for mowing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Its 10 euro an acre here for mowing

    Would want to double your price Reggie. We always charged 20-25 an acre


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Its 10 euro an acre here for mowing

    You can mow all mine for that. €17-€20 per acre around here. I do a bit for contractor when up the walls. €120/ hr I charge that's 7 acres per hr average so about €17/acre. Tractor using 14litre per hr mowing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Would want to double your price Reggie. We always charged 20-25 an acre

    That's not us. That's all the contractors here. We have our own 9ft mower but it's what most charge


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    At €10/acre there must be something wrong. Between the diesel and the lad driving they have over half of that €10 gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Right 12.50 per acre for 8ft blow. Mowing for silage hay is a different ball game to topping and is slower. 8 acres per hour 2 hours work per farm you hire to on average would be €200 less diesel for 2hrs €170 ware and tare and insurance €140. Thats some days wages for two hours work. Even paying a young lad 20per hour (which would be mad money) would still leave ya with 2 big notes in back pocket that wasn't there in the morning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    316 wrote: »
    I would rather draw the dole than get €10 an acre, getting tea and rich tea biscuits no doubt afterwards would be another fine insult. Alot of feeding tea and biscuits are.
    316 wrote: »
    Without seeing the land its impossible to say, per hour price would be the way for pricing.
    316 wrote: »
    Depends on what tractor and topper leaves the shed :pac:
    316 wrote: »
    I have more than a clue, anything less than €15 an acre plus vat and your only a busy fool.
    316 wrote: »
    Im not being smart but how much topping you do an hour depends what size of equipment you are using.


    15+vat/acre works out at 17/acre. Lads with a conditioner knocks silage at 25/acre and some are cheaper with disc mowers and drum mowers cheaper again. Your idea that it depends on which tractor and implement leaves the shed is stupid. First OP is more than likely getting a neighbour or his young lad to do it. In general for this type of work 25/hour is near enough the going rate.

    Too many lads think jut because there 120+HP tractor burns 10 euro/hour diesel idling that there customers have to pay for it. 60-80HP tractors and even smaller are more than suitable for work such as teding, turning, raking topping, spraying rolling etc, etc. I got teding done lately by a lad at 8/acre. It took him about 1.5 hours on a 390MF with a 8M tedder to cover 6 acres.

    Lads have to understand just because you have big out other lads are not under obligation to pay for your toys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Right 12.50 per acre for 8ft blow. Mowing for silage hay is a different ball game to topping and is slower. 8 acres per hour 2 hours work per farm you hire to on average would be €200 less diesel for 2hrs €170 ware and tare and insurance €140. Thats some days wages for two hours work. Even paying a young lad 20per hour (which would be mad money) would still leave ya with 2 big notes in back pocket that wasn't there in the morning.

    €50 would be a bit closer to the diesel use to mow 16acres, working around a bit over 3l/acre here mowing 1st cut and that would be doing fairly well on diesel at that. And to pay for any tractor, and leave money too for breakdowns/repairs/replacement you need to be leaving atleast €10 an hour for the tractor alone, bearing in mind your only really charging for hours worked never mind time lost running round from field to field etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    Wouldnt do much toping here but the little bit we do is contracted out as we have no tractor . Costs us the same as mowing for silage £10 pound an acre and any diesal used for topping is supplied by the farm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    AP2014 wrote: »
    How much would ya charge?

    Im charging €13/ac


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