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worlds best beer......Westvleteren XII

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    It's good, but it's not worth the usual asking price, IMO. I did a blind tasting with it a few years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    £40 for 8 bottles its setting me back.

    hope it lives up to the hype.!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭BMJD


    I'd pay that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭lk67


    You've just reminded methat I was going to do a taste off between it and St.Bernardus Abt 12!

    A project for this weekend maybe...


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Hachiko wrote: »
    £40 for 8 bottles its setting me back.
    It was about €7 a bottle last time I bought it, in Brussels, so that's pretty good. £40 would buy you a lot of St Bernardus Abt 12, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    thats belgium, outside there its mad expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭laros


    a taste off between it and St.Bernardus Abt 12

    I preferred St Bernadus Abt 12 to be honest.... I first had the Westvleteren XII in brussels in Au Bon Vieux Temps an it cost me €10 a bottle and while it was nice, it was more the "ceremony" of the way the bar staff poured it and the barmaid gave me the bottle cap afterwards...:) It's a lovely beer and I got a brick of it when it was released and some bottles were opened to mark my grandsons birth, when my son tried it he just wasnt impressed with it and couldnt understand the fuss about it ... I've done a taste test between it and St Bernadus and as regards Bang for your Buck...... I Would go with St Bernadus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    the rarity of this is a big thing, I am going to get 12 bottles now. If the seller has any left. He bought 2 crates from the monastery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    here we have them, better wrap them up in cotton wool

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    It's a top beer but I doubt it'd be in the top 10 if it was readily available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    Will have a XII over the weekend, but for now I got this

    no idea what the hell it is

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,840 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    I've had a bottle the past 2 Christmas dinners but I've not been blown away by it. I might keep the other 4 and trade them in a few years for something a bit more exciting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Hachiko wrote: »
    £40 for 8 bottles its setting me back.

    hope it lives up to the hype.!

    Where to buy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭twerg_85


    I thought it was (very) nice, but the 'best in the world' tag is due to exclusivity rather than pure taste /quality.

    Nogne IPA is one of the best I've tasted.

    F.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    twerg_85 wrote: »
    I thought it was (very) nice, but the 'best in the world' tag is due to exclusivity rather than pure taste /quality..


    In parts of the beer world, the hard to find the beer is , the better it is. Unfortunately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    oblivious wrote: »
    In parts of the beer world, the hard to find the beer is , the better it is. Unfortunately

    You could say the same for the wine world too.

    There's a tipping point where a beer/wine can't really taste any nicer and it's after that point that the exclusivity becomes the defining factor in cost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Going to Brussels in a few weeks, do most decent bars have it for sale?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    No, it's fairly rare in pubs since it's not available wholesale. De BierTempel off licence on Rue du Marché aux Herbes always seems to have it in stock when I look.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    You could say the same for the wine world too.

    Probably a lot worse

    A least with beer you can pick up a something like rochefort 10 in a lot of good off licence for around 6-ish euro. The wine equivalent you going to pay a hell of alot more


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    oblivious wrote: »
    Probably a lot worse

    A least with beer you can pick up a something like rochefort 10 in a lot of good off licence for around 6-ish euro. The wine equivalent you going to pay a hell of alot more

    Yeah I was only saying that over the weekend. You could try a World Top 10 beer without having to remortgage your house. You couldn't say the same for a top 10 wine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    I've a few bottles aging in my basement, 2 years down. Will give them at least 1 more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭laros


    Going to Brussels in a few weeks, do most decent bars have it for sale?

    The place in the tripadvisor link below is where I tried it, Tho I notice in the link comments they seem to have increased the price to €12 a bottle :(

    http://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_Review-g188644-d2704030-Reviews-Au_Bon_Vieux_Temps-Brussels.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    jester77 wrote: »
    I've a few bottles aging in my basement, 2 years down. Will give them at least 1 more.

    yeah, I've a bottle aging about 3 years now too. Was going to open it when my son was born, then when he was 1.

    I shared a bottle with my brother on his wedding day 3 years ago, and he gave me the bottle I have now from his brick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,036 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Going to Brussels in a few weeks, do most decent bars have it for sale?

    Note that you are going against the wishes of the monks if you buy it from a bar or shop that is reselling it without the agreement of the brewery.

    Only one cafe sells it with the agreement of the monks, and that's across the road from the brewery.

    http://sintsixtus.be/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Aka Ishur


    I had the chance to drink a 2 year old bottle given as a birthday gift. Its a lovely balanced beer with beautiful distinct flavours. Its not a beer you could define by a single taste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭aaronm13


    Is there anywhere around Dublin selling this? I checked on the McHuges website and they have it listed but can't seem to buy it. Definitely remember seeing it somewhere before buy can't remember, possibly Sweeney's.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    It's not normally commercially available outside the brewery. The brewery did a commercial release of six-pack "bricks" a few years ago, and the Irish distributor secured a big supply, but I doubt there's much of that left. We're back to the grey market being the only way to get hold of it, and nowhere in Ireland deals in grey market beer, that I know of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    sounds like an opportunity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭aaronm13


    Anyone care to pop up a link or pm where I might be able to buy some bottles. Searched but only got sites with stupid prices. The 40 pound for 8 bottles mentioned earlier in this post sounds doable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    aaronm13 wrote: »
    Anyone care to pop up a link or pm where I might be able to buy some bottles. Searched but only got sites with stupid prices. The 40 pound for 8 bottles mentioned earlier in this post sounds doable.

    You'd be doing well to get it better that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭aaronm13


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    You'd be doing well to get it better that!

    Yeah, seems a good price, just need the link now. It's like the Golden ticket I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    yeah, I've a bottle aging about 3 years now too. Was going to open it when my son was born, then when he was 1.

    I shared a bottle with my brother on his wedding day 3 years ago, and he gave me the bottle I have now from his brick.

    this beer 'ages' ?

    I got this from work, hence the 'cheap' price.!

    FWIW

    The Westvleteren Brewery (Dutch: Brouwerij Westvleteren) is a Belgian brewery founded in 1838 inside the Trappist Abbey of Saint Sixtus of Westvleteren in the Belgian municipality of Vleteren, not far from the hops-producing town of Poperinge and the medieval city of Ypres. The brewery and its beers are usually referred to as Westvleteren. The brewery's three beers have acquired an international reputation for taste and quality, being considered by a percentage of beer aficionados and judges to be "the best beer in the world" (for Wesvleteren XII, a Quadrupel)[1] as well as the limited availability of the beers which are not brewed to normal commercial demands, but are sold in small quantities weekly from the doors of the monastery itself, to individual buyers after reservation only


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    I'll be at the brewery/abbey in August. Looking forward to it. I've had the beer plenty of times and have plenty at home that I have been ageing for years. Great beer, not worth the hype though. I actually prefer Westvleteren 8 myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    will knock back soon, my birthday today.

    slainte guys

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Happy birthday Hachiko, enjoy ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Aka Ishur


    belgianbeerfactory.com claims to be selling some online. I have used them before without issue as long as you are patient.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭aaronm13


    Aka Ishur wrote: »
    belgianbeerfactory.com claims to be selling some online. I have used them before without issue as long as you are patient.

    Cheers for the link. Site looks fantastic an very reasonable. €18 delivery for up to 48 bottles too seems good. Time to place an order I think. What am I looking at for delivery times?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Aka Ishur


    depends on availability, but i'm happy with 2 week turn around. lets say the guy is slow enough to make items out of stock hoping he'll get them in in the coming weeks. :) Fairly contactable tho with email and facebook etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Cantstandsya


    It's a great beer and one of the nicest I've tried but, honestly, I prefer Rochefort 10, not to mention Weihenstephaner Vitus or our own Foam and Fury.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Westy12


    *SNIP*

    Read the forum rules Westy12. What you're suggesting is against them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Westy12


    Oeps, sorry. It was not my intention to post something against the forum rules. I just wanted to answer the question from aaronm13 in post #32.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭aaronm13


    Got some of these bad boys this morning. Wife got them for my birthday. Got some Rochefort 10 to compare. Can't wait to try one later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭poitinstill


    whats in the no label ones Westy12 im presuming... why no labels? i have a brick of it but havnt opened yet


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    why no labels?
    Labels are for attracting people to a product on a shelf. Westvleteren beers (bricks excepted) are only supposed to be sold from the brewery, so no need for labels. All the statutory information is in tiny writing on the cap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    laros wrote: »
    The place in the tripadvisor link below is where I tried it, Tho I notice in the link comments they seem to have increased the price to €12 a bottle :(

    http://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_Review-g188644-d2704030-Reviews-Au_Bon_Vieux_Temps-Brussels.html

    Was in there on Thursday night and it is now €15 a bottle! Didn't go for it as I couldn't stomach the price and I also had a good few beers at that stage and wouldn't have been able to appreciate it fully


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭cjlawlor


    I paid the full €15 for it in Au Bon Vieux Temps a couple of weeks ago... It's great to have tasted it and as a once off experience, I really enjoyed it. It was an excellent beer but to be honest I prefer Rochefort 10.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Exclusivity does not 'The World's best beer' make IMHO

    A tasty drop indeed, but there are beers out there that are readily available & just as tasty/heady to be had.


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