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Baltray Little tern colony needs volunteers!

  • 08-06-2015 5:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭


    https://www.facebook.com/louthnaturetrust?fref=nf
    Folks, we are desperately seeking volunteer wardens for the Little Tern Conservation project in Baltray. If any of you out there can spare a few hours here and there we would love to hear from you.
    We are being plagued with rooks and crows at the moment stealing eggs and we need as many people as we can get to help keep them at bay.
    If you would like to volunteer please ring 0862434874 or you can contact us here. It really is a great way to spend a few hours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    No experience needed. Only one warden present and she has to cover nearly 1km of fence. The place is black with crows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    What on earth has happened to the Louth Nature Trust? I'd love to help but I've family commitments and I'm miles away in Enniscorthy. Surely there must be some birdwatchers in County Louth or is there some internal feud that we don't know about? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    What on earth has happened to the Louth Nature Trust? I'd love to help but I've family commitments and I'm miles away in Enniscorthy. Surely there must be some birdwatchers in County Louth or is there some internal feud that we don't know about? :confused:
    Don't really know the politics. Only have helped out twice this year. The crows should have been trapped since March though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    And so it continues. The latest news here: http://www.louthnaturetrust.org/little-terns/

    but despite a call to Birdwatch Ireland a couple of weeks ago there's no sign of their Kilcoole blog appearing this year. Unforgiveable given that Birdwatch Ireland's HQ is nearby. I'm sure the wardens are busy but surely somebody from the office could be charged with keeping the public informed?

    Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place? :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    And so it continues. The latest news here: http://www.louthnaturetrust.org/little-terns/

    but despite a call to Birdwatch Ireland a couple of weeks ago there's no sign of their Kilcoole blog appearing this year. Unforgiveable given that Birdwatch Ireland's HQ is nearby. I'm sure the wardens are busy but surely somebody from the office could be charged with keeping the public informed?

    Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place? :(


    To be honest, I wouldn't judge the work of any organisation by the presence or absence of a blog. I'd rather they put their resources into the core work than maintaining a blog, in fact.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    I can't tell you the amount of days where I've been Tern wardening and thought "I must do a blog post tonight" or "That'd make a good quick blog post to do after dinner this evening" and just simply not gotten around to it because of all of the other things that had to be done. If you're desperate for an update then email or call BWI HQ, but I agree with Srameen that blog posts (while very important!) should be way down the list of priorities for fieldworkers. I'll add to that the fact that there have been some staff changeovers at Kilcoole in recent weeks, so it's likely that there will be blog posts when the staff get settled etc.

    And while it would be great if other staff members at HQ could take on that responsibility, the rest of the staff are extremely busy too! Particularly during the summer when there are a huge amount of conservation projects and local events going on up and down the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    To be honest, I wouldn't judge the work of any organisation by the presence or absence of a blog. I'd rather they put their resources into the core work than maintaining a blog, in fact.

    True to a point, but if an organisation is serious about pulling in volunteers and funds, it needs to get its message out there. The IWC/Birdwatch Ireland do not impress me in this regard. I rang their HQ to find out the latest about Kilcoole but how many others will know or will have bothered?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    True to a point, but if an organisation is serious about pulling in volunteers and funds, it needs to get its message out there. The IWC/Birdwatch Ireland do not impress me in this regard. I rang their HQ to find out the latest about Kilcoole but how many others will know or will have bothered?

    Fair enough but, equally, I keep myself informed and as up to date as I can yet have never used any blogs. It's questionable how many people would in reality depend on the blog. But, as said, it's a matter of priority for resources.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Passed through Kilcoole on the train today and was pleased to see that there are two colonies fenced off again this year - north and south of the Breaches bridge. The hide was up and occupied. An Oystercatcher was taking advantage of the fencing and nesting in full public view - even clearly visible from the train.

    Incidentally, if you haven't been on the Rosslare train in recent years you should give it a try as the wildlife visible from the carriage window is amazing! At this time of year, between Greystones and Bray the cliffs are teeming with nesting seabirds - Fulmars, Guillemots, Black Guillemots, Razorbills, Shags, Cormorants, Kittiwakes and a variety of gulls - all close to the train.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,888 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    True to a point, but if an organisation is serious about pulling in volunteers and funds, it needs to get its message out there.
    bit of a chicken and egg thing there though. in order to have good comms, you need volunteers/staff. but in order to get volunteers/staff, you need comms...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Desmo


    The Little Tern blog used to be done by Niall Keogh in his spare time. Niall has limitless supplies of energy and has a passion for blogging. He does not do the terns anymore. It was always extra hard to do as they had no electricity! To be honest, blogging takes ages and Niall could do it fast and loved doing it but it was his personal choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    Desmo wrote: »
    The Little Tern blog used to be done by Niall Keogh in his spare time. Niall has limitless supplies of energy and has a passion for blogging. He does not do the terns anymore. It was always extra hard to do as they had no electricity! To be honest, blogging takes ages and Niall could do it fast and loved doing it but it was his personal choice.

    The tern wardens work tirelessly for poor wages and work huge hours. They are a credit to any organisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    That's all well and good, but in an organisation that boasts 15,000+ members I find it difficult to believe that they can't organise a simple thing like a blog for a project virtually in their HQ. Still nothing online and we're almost into June.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,888 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i suspect that in an organisation like BWI, there's always something more important to be done (and i'm not being facetious saying that, btw).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    That's all well and good, but in an organisation that boasts 15,000+ members I find it difficult to believe that they can't organise a simple thing like a blog for a project virtually in their HQ. Still nothing online and we're almost into June.
    I would agree with you. There is a serious case of mismangement from the top of the organisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Just sent a snorter of an email to Birdwatch HQ and I will post here if they bother replying. Don't anybody please say that they are too busy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Just sent a snorter of an email to Birdwatch HQ and I will post here if they bother replying. Don't anybody please say that they are too busy...

    I have been complaining about mismanagement of the two BWI reserves in Mayo for 4 years. I have got nowhere with them. One of them is the corncrake reserve. Their standard reply is there is nothing wrong with our reserves and we know what we doing.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,888 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Just sent a snorter of an email to Birdwatch HQ and I will post here if they bother replying.
    did you make it clear that a response to your email was going to be made public?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    did you make it clear that a response to your email was going to be made public?
    I put forward a motion of "no confidence in the management at Termoncarragh Meadows reserve" last year. The situation had not improved so I put forward another motion for this year. The good chairman of BWI decided to delete motion from the AGM. What's the point of having an AGM if members motions are deleted? You would get better transparency in North Korea!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    A synopsis


    To whom it may concern:

    To say that I am truly appalled by the failure of your organisation to promote its own work at Kilcoole - the Little Tern project - would be a serious understatement. We are now nearly into June and not a word about progress at Kilcoole since 2016. Not an appeal for volunteers, donations or anything at all! It's just down the road from your HQ and you can't even manage to report on it. It's little wonder that my interest in Irish bird conservation died a death in the late 1970s!


    I used to be seriously involved back in the late 1970s and was asked to help in the setting up of the Wicklow branch of the IWC, but that was in a different life. I was doing the same monitoring of the Little Terns back then - even using the painted stones - long before the IWC ever thought of it. Official apathy then was unreal and the thought of being paid any sort of wage, lowly or otherwise, would have been mind blowing. While things have come a long way since then I'm still stunned by the lack of get up and go - which is the reason I got up and left way back then. The more things change, the more they stay the same. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    A synopsis


    To whom it may concern:

    To say that I am truly appalled by the failure of your organisation to promote its own work at Kilcoole - the Little Tern project - would be a serious understatement. We are now nearly into June and not a word about progress at Kilcoole since 2016. Not an appeal for volunteers, donations or anything at all! It's just down the road from your HQ and you can't even manage to report on it. It's little wonder that my interest in Irish bird conservation died a death in the late 1970s!


    I used to be seriously involved back in the late 1970s and was asked to help in the setting up of the Wicklow branch of the IWC, but that was in a different life. I was doing the same monitoring of the Little Terns back then - even using the painted stones - long before the IWC ever thought of it. Official apathy then was unreal and the thought of being paid any sort of wage, lowly or otherwise, would have been mind blowing. While things have come a long way since then I'm still stunned by the lack of get up and go - which is the reason I got up and left way back then. The more things change, the more they stay the same. :(

    The seabirds projects are generally well operated. We were spoilt really with the likes of Openyoureyes and Niall Keogh keeping great blogs/doing great work.

    The Reserves are a total disaster. BWi got a Heritage Council grant of 5,000 to do audit at main reserve ECNR. No doubt the "audit" will have skewed result findings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    The Irish times did a full page on the terns last week, with updates on the colonies and the work being done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Just read that article, but it's very general and the May 22nd article is basically a copy and paste one of a similar one that appeared April 19th. It doesn't get away from the fact that BWI needs to get its act together on the publicity front. It's never been easier to get the message out there.

    Incidentally, on a slightly related matter, how is it that there still appears to be NO proper discussion forum on Irish birds or not that I can find? I signed up on this strange one https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=IBN-L yesterday but can't get it to work for me. It's bizarre looking site anyway. Looks like it's broken through from the darknet - perhaps I should look there instead. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭ThunderCat


    Are they still looking for volunteers does anyone know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    ThunderCat wrote: »
    Are they still looking for volunteers does anyone know?

    Yes, I have number if you want?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭ThunderCat


    Yes, I have number if you want?



    Yes PM it to me if you wouldn't mind. I might be able to lend a hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    Hi there. Maurice is one of the lads. His number <snip>

    Mod edit: Sorry, probably best to keep phone numbers and the like to PM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 shellie70


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    A synopsis


    To whom it may concern:

    To say that I am truly appalled by the failure of your organisation to promote its own work at Kilcoole - the Little Tern project - would be a serious understatement. We are now nearly into June and not a word about progress at Kilcoole since 2016. Not an appeal for volunteers, donations or anything at all! It's just down the road from your HQ and you can't even manage to report on it. It's little wonder that my interest in Irish bird conservation died a death in the late 1970s!


    I used to be seriously involved back in the late 1970s and was asked to help in the setting up of the Wicklow branch of the IWC, but that was in a different life. I was doing the same monitoring of the Little Terns back then - even using the painted stones - long before the IWC ever thought of it. Official apathy then was unreal and the thought of being paid any sort of wage, lowly or otherwise, would have been mind blowing. While things have come a long way since then I'm still stunned by the lack of get up and go - which is the reason I got up and left way back then. The more things change, the more they stay the same. :(
    I would imagine that the wardens priority is the protection of the actual Terns. Yes agree blog should be started but not prioritised over the actual project. I'd imagine the first few weeks are pretty hectic.I am local in Kilcoole and like the locals are very familiar with this project. BWI are always happy to help and give an updates and the guys are also great if you want to go down. Perhaps you should of got in contact with BWI prior to dissing them online :-( have you actually paid a visit to the Kilcoole project? Might shed some light on the amount of work involved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    shellie70 wrote: »
    I would imagine that the wardens priority is the protection of the actual Terns. Yes agree blog should be started but not prioritised over the actual project. I'd imagine the first few weeks are pretty hectic.I am local in Kilcoole and like the locals are very familiar with this project. BWI are always happy to help and give an updates and the guys are also great if you want to go down. Perhaps you should of got in contact with BWI prior to dissing them online :-( have you actually paid a visit to the Kilcoole project? Might shed some light on the amount of work involved

    Perhaps you should read post 21 before 'dissing' me? I'm quite familiar with what's involved at Kilcoole given that I was doing the same thing there in 1975/76 with no money, no official support and certainly no input from the IWC/BWI.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    And here's the blog - alive again at last: http://littleternconservation.blogspot.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Kilcoole is experiencing another bumper year according to today's blog post here: http://littleternconservation.blogspot.ie with 190 chicks ringed to date.


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