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planning regs re rainwater off a roof

  • 08-06-2015 12:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭


    Are there any regs that say you have to siphon off rainwater into a drain?


    My issue is that we have a mid terrace house without access to a drain at the back of the house. Wondering if we are required to drain rainwater away or just let it wash into our garden?


    **when I say we have no access, we could access it by digging up 2-3 neighbours gardens on either side. However of those 2-3 neighbours theres an "awkward" one on either side between us and the drain...so technically no access :(


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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    the rainwater discharge should be dealt with in the planning conditions for the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    In this situation one often needs to build a soakpit which in simple terms is a pit dug in the garden then filled with stones. Best to employ an engineer to design it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭daheff


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    the rainwater discharge should be dealt with in the planning conditions for the house.

    But in terms of where I am adding an extension that would be within the exempt size, would a soak pit be the best solution? Roughly speaking how big/deep would this usually be?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    daheff wrote: »
    But in terms of where I am adding an extension that would be within the exempt size, would a soak pit be the best solution? Roughly speaking how big/deep would this usually be?

    What will the size of your remaining garden be ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    daheff wrote: »
    Roughly speaking how big/deep would this usually be?

    There IS no roughly speaking. You have to have an engineer design it beacuse the affect of the soakpit on other structures has to be taken into account.

    No one here can do that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭daheff


    BryanF wrote: »
    What will the size of your remaining garden be ?

    I reckon it'd be approx 6m *5m
    There IS no roughly speaking. You have to have an engineer design it beacuse the affect of the soakpit on other structures has to be taken into account.

    No one here can do that.
    Ok let me rephrase. Can somebody indicate what size soak pits they have seen elsewhere are?
    I understand an engineer will have to design 100%, all I'm looking for is an indication so I have a rough idea how big it'd be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    I have seen a soakpit as small as a domestic fridge - and as large as a family car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    OP, can u explain the current set up a bit more and amplify your plans.
    My assumptions.
    What I think you have is a mid terrace house with a continuous gutter at eaves level along all the houses and the occasional down pipe.

    You don't say if single or two storey.

    You now want to build an extension so I am assuming the existing gutter remaining and all you are concerned about is the run off the extension.

    So lets do the rough math
    using rainfall from here
    http://www.met.ie/climate-ireland/rainfall.asp

    say the extension is 4m square on plan, then assume a 300mm overhang so the plan roof area is 4 by 4.3 = 17.2 sq meters

    Assume your rainfall is 1000mm per annum then your annual rainfall has a volume of 17.2 public meters or 17,200 litres.

    If concrete roof tiles, 75% of this might run off into a soak hole or rainwater harvesting [RHW] tank.
    If the latter, using it for toilets, car washing and clothes washing only, then maybe store enough for 6 weeks, 1.5 months so a 2,150 litre tank would do, say 3,000 litre so at a metre deep would be 1.7m square.
    My guess is the soak hole won't be much smaller so consider RHW

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