Pinkeye

sucklerlover

Just wondering is anyone having trouble with pinkeye. I injected 3 calves and one heifer so far with la alamycin this week. Any other tips that for preventing or curing it.
Thanks

Zr105

sucklerlover wrote: »

Just wondering is anyone having trouble with pinkeye. I injected 3 calves and one heifer so far with la alamycin this week. Any other tips that for preventing or curing it.
Thanks

Opticlox to cure it, it's a 5g tube of stuff(looks same as a dry cow tube) you have to get under the eye lid... Not the easiest but does clear it up very well.

Are they routing into anything mouldy/dusty that's getting in their eye and starting it?

Luke92

Stop farting on their pillows

Farmer Pudsey

Alamycin spray into the eye works well. Are they eating long grass or under hedges. If they are eating nuts or ration it a disaster for spreading it through contact but as it is sucklers I presume that this is not an issue

_Brian

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Alamycin spray into the eye works well. Are they eating long grass or under hedges. If they are eating nuts or ration it a disaster for soreading it through contact but as it is sucklers I presume that this is not an issue

Have done this and definitely works as well as tubing the eye and easier on man and beast.

sucklerlover

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Alamycin spray into the eye works well. Are they eating long grass or under hedges. If they are eating nuts or ration it a disaster for spreading it through contact but as it is sucklers I presume that this is not an issue

It's my bucket reared calves and they are eating nuts.thanks for the tip on the spray.

sucklerlover

Zr105 wrote: »

Opticlox to cure it, it's a 5g tube of stuff(looks same as a dry cow tube) you have to get under the eye lid... Not the easiest but does clear it up very well.

Are they routing into anything mouldy/dusty that's getting in their eye and starting it?

Probably the ration is causing it. Thanks for advice.

Farmer Pudsey

sucklerlover wrote: »

It's my bucket reared calves and they are eating nuts.thanks for the tip on the spray.

If they are bucket fed it is being spread at the feeding. You will get them once at the trough with the spray. You may only need to spray once f you get them very early. Or else put them all up a chute and do them all.

Farmer Pudsey

sucklerlover wrote: »

Probably the ration is causing it. Thanks for advice.

Yes and no it may be picked up from a grass seed or a little stab from a thorn. However feeding from troughs is a terror for spreading it from contact. One fell gets it on a right eye and then 2-3 have it on left eyes

blackdog1

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Yes and no it may be picked up from a grass seed or a little stab from a thorn. However feeding from troughs is a terror for spreading it from contact. One fell gets it on a right eye and then 2-3 have it on left eyes

It's the birds carrying it here. Lost 1 eye on a lovely heifer calf this month. Had to treat 5 more and have to keep a constant eye on them. Magpies and crows getting into feeders seems to be the problem their becoming a real problem here.

KatyMac

I'm tormented with magpies here. Hate the sight of them. All troughs, buckets are put upside down the minute the calves move away. Will have to get someone to deal permanently soon as they are sitting on the shed roof waiting for us to go away.

greysides

Dealing thoroughly with magpies over a few years will also increase the number of small wild birds.

blackdog1

KatyMac wrote: »

I'm tormented with magpies here. Hate the sight of them. All troughs, buckets are put upside down the minute the calves move away. Will have to get someone to deal permanently soon as they are sitting on the shed roof waiting for us to go away.

I'm shooting them but your lucky to get 1 a day because their so smart and I just don't have the time most days to shoot. Larsen trap is what I think I'm going to get very soon.

Kovu

blackdog1 wrote: »

I'm shooting them but your lucky to get 1 a day because their so smart and I just don't have the time most days to shoot. Larsen trap is what I think I'm going to get very soon.

Just read over on the hunting forum that a cracked egg on top of a biscuit tin lid can draw them down. If you squirrel yourself away in a hedge and leave it in the middle of a field next to where they congregate it could be a handy way to get a pot shot at them.

Birdnuts

blackdog1 wrote: »

I'm shooting them but your lucky to get 1 a day because their so smart and I just don't have the time most days to shoot. Larsen trap is what I think I'm going to get very soon.

Larsen trap is best for them. Have 2 out the whole time and have thinned them out big time.Ina few weeks time there will be the youngsters out of the nest and they should be easily got anyways compared to the cuter adults.


PS: One of the easiest ways to keep crows etc. out of feed troughs, is to feed stock late in the evening when the birds are heading off to roost.

Base price

We have a few cases of pink eye every year but normally later in Summer when the flies are about.
Personally I would never use an aerosol spray on any animals eye. OH has done so in the past but he now adopts the treatment that a vet showed me years ago, which is injecting a mix of duocycline and dexameth (2:1) into the upper eyelid and in sever cases also injecting into the lower eyelid - using a fine needle. This is a one off treatment and works but it is a two person job. You need to get a script from your vet.

_Brian

Base price wrote: »

We have a few cases of pink eye every year but normally later in Summer when the flies are about.
Personally I would never use an aerosol spray on any animals eye. OH has done so in the past but he now adopts the treatment that a vet showed me years ago, which is injecting a mix of duocycline and dexameth (2:1) into the upper eyelid and in sever cases also injecting into the lower eyelid - using a fine needle. This is a one off treatment and works but it is a two person job. You need to get a script from your vet.

I don't think aerosols are any bother. Think about it there are aerosols with burn spray and antiseptic for cuts. It's not always practical to get animals into a crush and administer a two person remedy. I've thrown meal in a trough and sprayed animals when eating meal and it's cured the pinkeye.
Horses for courses, curing the problem is more important than liking the treatment.

Base price

_Brian wrote: »

I don't think aerosols are any bother. Think about it there are aerosols with burn spray and antiseptic for cuts. It's not always practical to get animals into a crush and administer a two person remedy. I've thrown meal in a trough and sprayed animals when eating meal and it's cured the pinkeye.
Horses for courses, curing the problem is more important than liking the treatment.

Have to disagree with you on that Brian.
I wonder if a vet or dept vet would condone using an aerosol spray on an animals eye, I doubt it.

Farmer Pudsey

Base price wrote: »

We have a few cases of pink eye every year but normally later in Summer when the flies are about.
Personally I would never use an aerosol spray on any animals eye. OH has done so in the past but he now adopts the treatment that a vet showed me years ago, which is injecting a mix of duocycline and dexameth (2:1) into the upper eyelid and in sever cases also injecting into the lower eyelid - using a fine needle. This is a one off treatment and works but it is a two person job. You need to get a script from your vet.

_Brian wrote: »

I don't think aerosols are any bother. Think about it there are aerosols with burn spray and antiseptic for cuts. It's not always practical to get animals into a crush and administer a two person remedy. I've thrown meal in a trough and sprayed animals when eating meal and it's cured the pinkeye.
Horses for courses, curing the problem is more important than liking the treatment.

Base price wrote: »

Have to disagree with you on that Brian.
I wonder if a vet or dept vet would condone using an aerosol spray on an animals eye, I doubt it.

Pinkeye is often an awful infection to get on top off. I have had a few very bad cases and multuple cases mainly because often being by myself I was unable to treat an animal. In bad cases an animal will lose an eye or go blind.

With the spray it is easy to stop it becoming an issue. I have to agree with brian it is more important to cure the infection in this case. Injecting into the eye is not for everyone. I used to tube into the eye. However if cattle were in a shed two people were needed to extract the animal from the pen. this often lead to having to be done the following day. This often caused 1-2 more animals being infected. Now I spray if unable to extract there and then.

It works it a one man/women fix and it is definatly better than an animal losing an eye

_Brian

Base price wrote: »

Have to disagree with you on that Brian.
I wonder if a vet or dept vet would condone using an aerosol spray on an animals eye, I doubt it.

I think its important to remember its administered at some distance rather than jamming the can into the eye and giving it full blast point blank range.

Base price

_Brian wrote: »

I think its important to remember its administered at some distance rather than jamming the can into the eye and giving it full blast point blank range.

I understand that, as I posted previously my partner used to use it and may I say with mixed results. Several applications were required in some cases.

In this situation as far as I am concerned, the end does not justify the means.

whelan2

we use the opticlox tubes, never heard of the spray in the eye before, if bad we get injecction from vet and i inject into the eyelid

Base price

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Pinkeye is often an awful infection to get on top off. I have had a few very bad cases and multuple cases mainly because often being by myself I was unable to treat an animal. In bad cases an animal will lose an eye or go blind.

With the spray it is easy to stop it becoming an issue. I have to agree with brian it is more important to cure the infection in this case. Injecting into the eye is not for everyone. I used to tube into the eye. However if cattle were in a shed two people were needed to extract the animal from the pen. this often lead to having to be done the following day. This often caused 1-2 more animals being infected. Now I spray if unable to extract there and then.

It works it a one man/women fix and it is definatly better than an animal losing an eye

Puds the animal is not going to loose the sight in their eye unless they go untreated for several weeks.
I am well used to dealing with pink eye over the years. First indication is a weepy eye, second is a slight clouding over the pupil which can be difficult to see unless the sunlight catches it, third is the formation of the distinctive white spot, fourth is the distinctive white spot which will become raised after a few days. In severe cases it will burst and leave an open wound.
A few years ago we bought in chancy cattle, all of them had pink eye. 2 WH's were at the that bad end of the scale, the white spot had burst. We treated them with injections with cleared up the problem. I do no think they lost the sight in their eyes as they would blink when you passed your hand near the eye.

blackdog1

Base price wrote: »

We have a few cases of pink eye every year but normally later in Summer when the flies are about.
Personally I would never use an aerosol spray on any animals eye. OH has done so in the past but he now adopts the treatment that a vet showed me years ago, which is injecting a mix of duocycline and dexameth (2:1) into the upper eyelid and in sever cases also injecting into the lower eyelid - using a fine needle. This is a one off treatment and works but it is a two person job. You need to get a script from your vet.

Is that 2ml to 1ml dex?. Hoe much do you inject into the eye?

Base price

blackdog1 wrote: »

Is that 2ml to 1ml dex?. Hoe much do you inject into the eye?

No use about 1.5 ml (1ml duocycline, .5ml dex). Use those small 2.5ml syringes with the needle that has the green plastic. I don't know what size they are but they are short and fine gauge. Tip is to put the bottle of dex into your pocket for a few mins to heat it as it's thick stuff even when mixed with the duocycline.