Moral Delima

Farmer Pudsey

Was listening to the news all day about John Delaney and the 5 million. Is it me or are we gone so politically correct that Politicians and even Bernard O'Byrne could not give an answer and say that Delaney did the right thing for soccer.

O'Byrne admitted on RTE that Delaney and the FAI did not have a leg to stand on legally but should have taken the moral high ground and refused the money. :eek: Have we gone insane in this country. The FAI was nearly bankrupt at the time over AVIVA stadium and the money got them out of a hole as they were find impossible to meet there longterm tickets funding arrangments.

The only one that saw it as it was is Eamon Dunphy when he talked about it last night and I think at the end he said something like fair play John

What would you have done
I know this is farming but I am wondering about farmer perceptive

Dawggone

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Was listening to the news all day about John Delaney and the 5 million. Is it me or are we gone so politically correct that Politicians and even Bernard O'Byrne could not give an answer and say that Delaney did the right thing for soccer.

O'Byrne admitted on RTE that Delaney and the FAI did not have a leg to stand on legally but should have taken the moral high ground and refused the money. :eek: Have we gone insane in this country. The FAI was nearly bankrupt at the time over AVIVA stadium and the money got them out of a hole as they were find impossible to meet there longterm tickets funding arrangments.

The only one that saw it as it was is Eamon Dunphy when he talked about it last night and I think at the end he said something like fair play John

What would you have done
I know this is farming but I am wondering about farmer perceptive

Siteserv. Topaz.
IBRC preferential treatment to billionaires.
Did anyone actually read the findings of the Moriarty Tribunal?

Public servants getting a pay rise ( when people are dying from lack of investment in hospital care!) because an election is around the corner.

Will I continue?

frazzledhome

Delaney as a man I've no time for. On this occasion he pulled a master stroke. He played Blatter and Fifa at their own game went looking for something he knew he'd never get namely a replay or a place in WC.

Came away with 5 big ones and unlike the guys he got it from he put into the game. Well played.

Nekarsulm

Not in the Poll options, but I wouldn't have gone crying to FIFA in the first place. Any one with a bit of integrity would be ashamed to go and complain.Who has never had a Ref. make a decision against their team, wrongly, and just said "f**k it" and keep going?
There is a culture in soccer where spoilt brats cannot take any decision against them, and hassle ref's in the hope they will change their decision. I'd red card every one of them, and only speak to the team captain.
Whole sport is a corrupt gravy train at the highest levels.

Dawggone

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Not in the Poll options, but I wouldn't have gone crying to FIFA in the first place. Any one with a bit of integrity would be ashamed to go and complain.Who has never had a Ref. make a decision against their team, wrongly, and just said "f**k it" and keep going?
There is a culture in soccer where spoilt brats cannot take any decision against them, and hassle ref's in the hope they will change their decision. I'd red card every one of them, and only speak to the team captain.
Whole sport is a corrupt gravy train at the highest levels.

+1. Corruption breeds corruption.

mf240

Id couldnt give a ****e about soccer.

But id image five million could make alot of decisions for ya.

Id of took the hand off them (no pun intended:D)

frazzledhome

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Not in the Poll options, but I wouldn't have gone crying to FIFA in the first place. Any one with a bit of integrity would be ashamed to go and complain.Who has never had a Ref. make a decision against their team, wrongly, and just said "f**k it" and keep going?
There is a culture in soccer where spoilt brats cannot take any decision against them, and hassle ref's in the hope they will change their decision. I'd red card every one of them, and only speak to the team captain.
Whole sport is a corrupt gravy train at the highest levels.

No time for soccer or indeed the proms donnas that play it but not a summer goes by without some court room drama by some county board in the Gaa.

Totally agree re team discipline.

Dawggone

frazzledhome wrote: »

Delaney as a man I've no time for. On this occasion he pulled a master stroke. He played Blatter and Fifa at their own game went looking for something he knew he'd never get namely a replay or a place in WC.

Came away with 5 big ones and unlike the guys he got it from he put into the game. Well played.

Sorry don't agree Frazz.
It's in the Irish psyche to be 'well connected', 'pull a stroke' etc etc.

This has got to stop!
Parish pump/stroke politics, is inherent in the Irish genotype.

frazzledhome

Dawggone wrote: »

Sorry don't agree Frazz.
It's in the Irish psyche to be 'well connected', 'pull a stroke' etc etc.

This has got to stop!
Parish pump/stroke politics, is inherent in the Irish genotype.

It's only soccer, I was replying to Ops point re correctness gone wrong.

Politically we are and have been for some time a banana republic or as Geldof added so well "septic isle"

johnny osbourne

i blame terry henry

Dawggone

frazzledhome wrote: »

It's only soccer, I was replying to Ops point re correctness gone wrong.

Politically we are and have been for some time a banana republic or as Geldof added so well "septic isle"

Yes you're right.
Revelations today re Enda/Bev-Cooper-Flynn and Anglo are pretty sickening...

All the snouts are in the trough.
I read on some paper today that a 100+yr old woman was made wait on a trolley in a corridor in A&E.

FFS!

Farmer Pudsey

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Not in the Poll options, but I wouldn't have gone crying to FIFA in the first place. Any one with a bit of integrity would be ashamed to go and complain.Who has never had a Ref. make a decision against their team, wrongly, and just said "f**k it" and keep going?
There is a culture in soccer where spoilt brats cannot take any decision against them, and hassle ref's in the hope they will change their decision. I'd red card every one of them, and only speak to the team captain.
Whole sport is a corrupt gravy train at the highest levels.

The reason the poll options are limited is that you are faced with the choice. you are CEO of the FAI and send to try to get Ireland admitted as the 33 team. So the above are the choices you are facing.

frazzledhome

Dawggone wrote: »

Yes you're right.
Revelations today re Enda/Bev-Cooper-Flynn and Anglo are pretty sickening...

All the snouts are in the trough.
I read on some paper today that a 100+yr old woman was made wait on a trolley in a corridor in A&E.

FFS!

Was on tractor at fert all day so heard no news. All talk of Fai on morning news so switched off, Fine Young Cannibals and REM had more to offer

Dawggone

frazzledhome wrote: »

Was on tractor at fert all day so heard no news. All talk of Fai on morning news so switched off, Fine Young Cannibals and REM had more to offer

Fine for you!
Send me some of that rain. Feckin sweltering here.
May have a chance of thunder rain...if we are lucky!








I had you figured as a Nolan Sisters/ABBA kinda guy!

frazzledhome

Dawggone wrote: »

Fine for you!
Send me some of that rain. Feckin sweltering here.
May have a chance of thunder rain...if we are lucky!








I had you figured as a Nolan Sisters/ABBA kinda guy!

Eclectic not deaf or gay

With broken weather ordered a load of Urea, plastered the place grand job

Dawggone

frazzledhome wrote: »

Eclectic not deaf or gay

With broken weather ordered a load of Urea, plastered the place grand job

LOL!


I'm irrigating grass Atm. Experiment.
I've been reading up on irrigating grass in S. America. Up to 30t/ha...
We'll see....

frazzledhome

Dawggone wrote: »

LOL!


I'm irrigating grass Atm. Experiment.
I've been reading up on irrigating grass in S. America. Up to 30t/ha...
We'll see....

Lincoln Uni website

just do it

The morally righteous love this kind of thing. What farmer hasn't declared a bit of cash? He who hasn't sinned can cast the first stone.

Other than a few pints I hope the 5m went to soccer, grassroots etc. Never liked JD but that's a different question altogether

frazzledhome

Dawggone wrote: »

LOL!


I'm irrigating grass Atm. Experiment.
I've been reading up on irrigating grass in S. America. Up to 30t/ha...
We'll see....

I'm moving my next question to Dairy farming general cause I think this thread could de rail

Farmer Pudsey

Some people are following a line of think that this was a bribe. First off FAI only card seems to have been the bad publicity that this was generating for FIFA. We were not getting a replay unless it was proved or came out that the ref was bribed by France was instructed by FIFA to make sure France got a result.

So John went over to Zurich to the FIFA headquarters and called into Sepp's office.

Sepp: Well John how are things.
John: Not good Sepp. The mood is Ireland is bad regarding the Henri's hand ball and I been told to initiate court proceeding in the Court Of Sport Arbitration.
Sepp: Good joke John.
John: No joke Sepp they annoyed over the press conference and the joke you made about the 33rd team.
Sepp: John you know that you have no legal case.
John: True Sepp but I have no choice the Blazers back home are annoyed, we are in a recession and over committed to the AVIVA development. If we had qualified it would have sorted some of the money issue. They want there day in court.
Sepp: What if we lend you a few million.
John: How do we pay it back and it more than a few million it is 8 if we qualified.
Sepp: Look we give you a million of a grant and a loan of a couple million
John: doubt if they will go for that Sepp.
Sepp: What you thinking John.
John: 5 million grant for the stadium.
Sepp: Not a hope John million of a grant and a 4 million loan.
John: Doubt if they could go for it because unless we qualify for 2014 WC we could not pay it back.
Sepp: Listen John it only will have to be paid back if you qualify for 2014.
John: I could sell that to the blazers at home 5 million sterling...
Sepp: STERLING! we always deal in dollars in FIFA.
John: We in Europe we never deal in dollars.
Sepp: Euro so and that it do not be busting my balls John.
John: Not sure if I can sell it
Sepp: Take it or leave it
John: I try to sell it to the boys at home.
Sepp: This is confidential John I do not want to see this all over the World Press

John walk out the door and leaves the building and rings an Irish '' Jaysus Paddy you will never believe this..................''

If Carlsberg did deals doing a Delaney would be one of them.


Now I know little about JD expect at times he can seem to be a bit of a buffoon. However what ever happened in Zurich he played that pair of deuces that he had very well. It was like opening with a pair of deuces and holding 3 cards and the other lads having all two pair and leaving with the pot.

jimmy G M

Jez Pudsey how long did it take you to type that.

You'll be writing a bit of am-dram yet.

coolshannagh28

The backstory is a smokescreen for a simple bung for the FAI vote in the 2011 FIFA election when Blatter was re elected despite the world and his mother knowing he was a crook.
this story will run and the FAI will do well to avoid court

keep going

If it went into his back pocket then it would be a disgrace but if it went into fai coffers as it looks then it was a great deal considering the cards he had.