Throwing Gender Conventions to the Wind (in this Day and Age)

Chloris

I'm a girl, but I don't give a ****. I don't hang around with a big clique who get together to do their makeup before a night out but all secretly hate each other and ditch anyone who has a few too many vodka whatevers; something I've witnessed many times on nights out. I have a lot of female friends, who I have selected carefully and all of whom I hold in extremely high esteem, but I don't collect them all together and show off that we're a group of girls who hang out. In fact, my main group of friends is "the lads".

The lads are extremely easy-going. With the unfortunate exception of the few who have taken the cocaine-brick road, there is rarely any drama, bitching, back-stabbing. The worst that ever happens is that someone will hook up with someone else's ex, and that's always taken in good spirits (typical that the worst thing they can do to each other involves a woman).

My boyfriend is also friends with all the lads; we were going out long before we met them so I'm in the fortunate position of being a non-option... Although there were some initial unwanted advances made in the early days of knowing them, I made it clear that flirting and come-ons would be met with cutting rejection and it hasn't been a problem since. In fact, my best bud was being particularly misogynistic in his advances to this really slutty friend we have (basically "so I'm gonna absolutely destroy you later") and I told him if he ever spoke to me like that I'd put him in the ****ing ground, and he replied "I would never speak to you like that, I have way too much respect for you."

The only downside is the girlfriends who have invariably come and gone. I'm still friends with two very choice young ladies I met through the lads, but mostly they're incredibly vapid, unsavory sorts who have it going on in the conventional sense but lack even the remotest semblance of substance. The worst are the foreign ones who can't even carry on a conversation. What is the appeal of being around that level of stupidity, just for sex. I'll never know.

Why on earth don't women in general cast off the primordial shackle to the kitchen sink? I'd much rather be valued for my wit, intellect and attitude than my fabulous rack. If you're one of those girls who has to bring someone to the bathroom, what is the appeal of having your friends so far up your hole that they're sipping your drink? Is it just insecurity, the need to feel validated by people your own gender?

If you're not one of those girls, be safe; you're an endangered species. You rock, and I could probably definitely handle being your friend (not that I'm assuming you want to be or anything). Go you!

You sound really bitter about women

fits

Are you really female?

Chloris

bluewolf wrote:

You sound really bitter about women

I have no problem admitting this. I'm appalled by the disappointingness (?) of my gender at large. My sister is always concerned that I don't hang around with a group of girls, but I really do have loads of female friends, they're just selected extremely carefully. I went to all girls schools growing up, so I had groups of female friends then, but I just hated the fact that they were just adhering to the awful girl stereotypes from movies, and the bitching, and the nastiness. I don't get why you would want a relationship with a group of people who largely resent each other!

Chloris

Haha bluewolf and silverfish, what's with all the colour/animal usernames?

Silverfish

Chloris wrote: »

I have no problem admitting this. I'm appalled by the disappointingness (?) of my gender at large. My sister is always concerned that I don't hang around with a group of girls, but I really do have loads of female friends, they're just selected extremely carefully. I went to all girls schools growing up, so I had groups of female friends then, but I just hated the fact that they were just adhering to the awful girl stereotypes from movies, and the bitching, and the nastiness. I don't get why you would want a relationship with a group of people who largely resent each other!

Yeah, seems like you resent them a lot - best you cut them out tbh.

Chloris

Quelle surprise! A bunch of women hear something that cuts them too close to the bone, so they immediately criticise the critic back, with zero introspection.

Silverfish

Chloris wrote: »

Quelle surprise! A bunch of women hear something that cuts them too close to the bone, so they immediately criticise the critic back, with zero introspection.

Dunno, you started a thread to bitch about women bitching about women?

Seems a bit contrived tbh.

I'm confident enough in myself and who I am that I don't need to push other people down to raise myself up. I was just clarifying that if women and their women ways annoy you so much then yeah, best steer clear of them.

Stheno

Silverfish wrote: »

Dunno, you started a thread to bitch about women bitching about women?

Seems a bit contrived tbh.

I'm confident enough in myself and who I am that I don't need to push other people down to raise myself up. I was just clarifying that if women and their women ways annoy you so much then yeah, best steer clear of them.

Agreed I'm female and well beyond the age of being called a girl.

I also work in a male dominated industry and as I'm fairly senior/experienced in my field I've a couple of women coming up through the ranks tat I mentor

I'm also involved in a group called girl geeks for women in IT

Having seen a few of ops posts she's fairly young and likes to be a bit out there with her posts so my reaction is just meeh

Lucyfur

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Some women like being homemakers. Some like pints with the lads. Some like high powered careers. Some like men. Some like women. Who'da thought we could all be different.