Lazy legislators

Sheldons Brain

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/drivers-banned-from-using-dublin-port-tunnel-over-reckless-behaviour-31259623.html

Drivers banned from DPT, but this is the only sanction for speeding because there cannot be speed guns in the tunnel.

The tunnel should have had built in speed cameras from the beginning and a camera to detect people refusing to put their lights. This could have been largely automated and there would not have been a problem, tickets would been issued and people would have stopped acting the maggot.

But our legislators, who find time to do a variety of things of dubious value, probably didn't bother to pass any regulation to allow the use of these things and we have this article years after the tunnel has been opened.

Is there any hope!

Carawaystick

How many accidents have been caused by speeding or no lights?

Sheldons Brain

Carawaystick wrote: »

How many accidents have been caused by speeding or no lights?

What's the point here? That you do not enforce the rules until there are a certain number of accidents?

Slippin Jimmy

Sheldons Brain wrote: »

What's the point here? That you do not enforce the rules until there are a certain number of accidents?

Maybe answer the question that was asked of you.

Crumbs868

Port tunnel is very well managed re trucks. It's constantly monitored and if any drivers are breaking the chevron rule the tunnel operatives pay your boss a visit. If serious enough they make you do a drivers assessment or you are barred. The discipline is more widespread than the article leads you to believe

moc moc a moc

Sheldons Brain wrote: »

What's the point here? That you do not enforce the rules until there are a certain number of accidents?

Correct. The rules are there for a reason: to prevent accidents. No accidents, no need to go overboard on the rules.

Sheldons Brain

moc moc a moc wrote: »

Correct. The rules are there for a reason: to prevent accidents. No accidents, no need to go overboard on the rules.

What's overboard? People get tickets on all sorts of roads where it is not a restricted environment like the tunnel and where arguably the need is less serious.

loyatemu

I've always been quite careful about sticking to the limit in the tunnel as I'd heard about the average-speed system installed in it. Now that I know it can't be used to prosecute me it's pedal to the metal all the way!

cdebru

But what if the drivers just drove through the tunnel anyway ? How can the operator enforce a ban ?

foggy_lad

cdebru wrote: »

But what if the drivers just drove through the tunnel anyway ? How can the operator enforce a ban ?

They are constantly watching vehicles in the tunnel and would just stop all the company's vehicles and direct them off the motorway where they would be detained and delayed while the whole ban thing is explained to them and then hand them over to the gardai for another long lecture on road safety and how the driver will now be on their radar etc all the while the stuff in the lorry is going nowhere and costing the company money!

monument

We need fixed average speed camera on motorways and in many urban areas.

markpb

cdebru wrote: »

But what if the drivers just drove through the tunnel anyway ? How can the operator enforce a ban ?

Are there barriers in the HGV lane at the toll plaza?

Carawaystick

markpb wrote: »

Are there barriers in the HGV lane at the toll plaza?

Yes. It always slows the 33x bus almost to a stop, passing through.

Cookie_Monster

monument wrote: »

We need fixed average speed camera on motorways and in many urban areas.

certainly for DPT and any other significant tunnel. The risks if a crash occurs are just so much higher than any other stretch or road.

I really can't see how they've not properly considered av speed cams in the tunnel and simply said we can't have AGS in there. It seems like a very easy, cheap and obvious long term solution to the problem

loyatemu

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

certainly for DPT and any other significant tunnel. The risks if a crash occurs are just so much higher than any other stretch or road.

I really can't see how they've not properly considered av speed cams in the tunnel and simply said we can't have AGS in there. It seems like a very easy, cheap and obvious long term solution to the problem

there is already a system in the tunnel - the problem is lack of legislation.

Fred Swanson

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