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Getting from Saggart to Blackrock - No idea where to start...

  • 28-05-2015 10:14am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭


    Anyone able to advise on transport from Saggart (accommodation is directly opposite the last Luas Red Line stop) going to Elite Fitness in Blackrock. (Apparently they are 10 minutes walking distance from bus stop or 15 minutes walking distance from DART station).

    What would be the quickest/easist option in the morning (not too concerned about getting back in the evening) but have to be there by 9am in the morning, taking in all transport, waiting times and walking times.

    Not looking for the cheapest option either, just haven't a clue about buses/luas/dart etc and haven't a notion where I'm going.

    I take it a taxi would be out of the question in rush hour for any part of the trip?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭saggart26


    You can get the luas to Connolly station and then a dart to blackrock, you are looking at close to 2 hr travel time (1hr on the luas, 15-20min transfer time, 30-40mins on dart)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    saggart26 wrote: »
    You can get the luas to Connolly station and then a dart to blackrock, you are looking at close to 2 hr travel time (1hr on the luas, 15-20min transfer time, 30-40mins on dart)

    2 hours! God!....It's only for 2 weeks, I'll have to just get on with it. The LUAS website is down on certain pages, I've been trying it all morning. You wouldn't happen to know whats the first departure time from Saggart. I'd nearly take the earliest one going to give myself enough time.

    I also googled the travel time from Saggart to Blackrock and it said 30 minutes via the M50, would a taxi be an option at all do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭saggart26


    site seems to be up.

    >> FROM Saggart TO Belgard

    Monday - Friday
    5:40am to 11:50pm

    Saturday
    6:40am to 11:50pm

    Sunday & Bk Hol.
    7:10am to 10:50pm





    >> Last tram FROM The Point TO Saggart

    Monday - Saturday
    Midnight

    Sunday
    11:00pm

    TAXI from Saggart to Blackrock via the M50 is probably 40-50e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    Thanks for that. I kept getting an ext error or something on any page other than the homepage. What do you think would be the better option:

    Get the Luas into Connolly and get the DART or get the Luas to (somewhere) and get the bus? As the bus station seems to be closer to the location than the DART station.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Luas to Tallaght, 75 to Dún Laoighre, Dart to Blackrock

    65b from City West to Terenure, 17 from Terenure to Blackrock

    http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/65b2/

    http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-Route-17/

    There is no easy way to get to Blackrock via Saggart on public transport.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭robjones1981


    You could try the Luas to Rialto and then the 17 Bus to Blackrock either?

    http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-Route-17/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    You could try the Luas to Rialto and then the 17 Bus to Blackrock either?

    http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-Route-17/

    I would, two changes is better than three. How long roughly do you think this would take me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    Luas to Tallaght, 75 to Dún Laoighre, Dart to Blackrock

    65b from City West to Terenure, 17 from Terenure to Blackrock

    http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/65b2/

    http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-Route-17/

    There is no easy way to get to Blackrock via Saggart on public transport.

    Thanks for that. Would I be looking at about 2 hours all in for both of those options aswell?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    65b to Terenure and 17 buse best option. Straight from saggart to blackrock one change and no doubling back on route

    google thinks 65b and then dart from tara street in 1hr 17mins is fastest
    https://www.google.com/maps/dir/53.2856507,-6.4217826/Blackrock,+Ireland/@53.3133484,-6.3746677,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x486708c0d4a91e95:0x2600c7a819b930f1!2m2!1d-6.1770668!2d53.300791!3e3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    [removed post]

    Yes I'm tempted by the Luas as it's right outside where I'll be staying and I always presume it's more comfortable than the bus (would I be right in that)?

    Do you know if the 45 minute drive would be a complicated drive? I've never driven in Dublin, if I hired a car would that be a bonkers idea do you think?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    It's not bonkers at all, if you can get a good deal on a car rental. Bonkers would be spending 4 plus hours a day on public transport, when there are other options. It would be less than half that if you drove. The time of day would make a difference to driving time though.

    It's not a complicated route....N7 to M50 southbound, get off at the N31, cross over the Stillorgan Rd & its a straight shoot down Newtown Park Avenue to Blackrock village. There is probably a back way to go, that may be a bit quicker, but I'd stick to the main roads until you have a better feel of the route. Plug your starting and ending points into Google maps and it will show you the route.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Can you drive? Could you hire a car?

    It'd be much more cost and time effective I'd say.

    Plus parking outside EFPA is only €5/day if you park in the DL zone on Brookfield Terrace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    Hanley wrote: »
    Can you drive? Could you hire a car?

    It'd be much more cost and time effective I'd say.

    Plus parking outside EFPA is only €5/day if you park in the DL zone on Brookfield Terrace.

    I can drive, have my full licence nearly two years but I've only ever driven in Sligo (Galway once and that was stressful for me). I'm a bit apprehensive at the prospect of driving around Dublin but I'm sure if I did it once I'd be ok.

    What would be reasonable in car hire for two weeks and what would I be looking at petrol wise do you think. I'd have to pick up the car on the Sunday and return in on the following Friday (13 days roughly).


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I think you need to have your licence at least two years to hire a car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    Might be cheaper to find somewhere to stay in Blackrock or Dun Laoghaire!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    I don't know how long it would take but you could try:

    Red line to Jervis
    Walk to Stephen's green
    Luas to Sandyford
    114 bus to Blackrock.

    Probably take ages though..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭tina1040


    Might be cheaper to find somewhere to stay in Blackrock or Dun Laoghaire!

    Why are you staying so far away from Blackrock?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    Might be cheaper to find somewhere to stay in Blackrock or Dun Laoghaire!

    Believe me, I have tried! Unbelievably expensive for the last two weeks of July. The person I am going to be staying with doesn't want anything!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    tina1040 wrote: »
    Why are you staying so far away from Blackrock?

    I have looked at every B&B and hotel on that side of town and I cannot find anything that is reasonable for two weeks, other than dumps and I'm not prepared to stay in one.

    My accommodation in Saggart is free and it's a beautiful home as well but I know I have to weigh that up in comparison to all the commuting involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    spurious wrote: »
    I think you need to have your licence at least two years to hire a car.

    Damn! I'm email around a few and find out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭actuar90


    This site should really be more widely known.
    Covers all public transport in Dublin
    Www.hittheroad.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    Try the NTA Journey Planner - this will answer most of your questions

    http://www.journeyplanner.transportforireland.ie/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Konata


    I can drive, have my full licence nearly two years but I've only ever driven in Sligo (Galway once and that was stressful for me). I'm a bit apprehensive at the prospect of driving around Dublin but I'm sure if I did it once I'd be ok.

    What would be reasonable in car hire for two weeks and what would I be looking at petrol wise do you think. I'd have to pick up the car on the Sunday and return in on the following Friday (13 days roughly).

    I can weigh in a little bit on this! I learned to drive and got my licence in Sligo too, had about two years experience also before I tackled Dublin. Not gonna lie, it's crazy stressful compared to driving anywhere around Sligo and it takes a bit of getting used to. One of the hardest aspects can just be that you don't know where you're going due to unfamiliar roads so you're trying to work all that out (still hard even with a GPS) while also keeping an eye out for all the different lanes and signs and cars etc. etc. Once you know the route it gets a lot easier. So if you do go for the driving option I would advise doing a few practice runs and also perhaps with a second pair of eyes in the car who can assist you with directions or figuring out what lane you're meant to be in. You'll be grand after that and could just concentrate on watching other cars for your commute.

    Driving in Sligo is an absolute doddle compared to Dublin but you get used to it pretty fast so if you find a good deal on renting a car I'd definitely give it serious consideration as a viable option for the two weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,286 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    First of all - use the national journey planner at www.a-b.ie or the journey planner app for smartphones - it will give you sound advice and realistic journey times.

    The best option is to go via the city centre using LUAS and DART, as unfortunately the orbital buses do get stuck in traffic at peak times.

    I would suggest the following if you are travelling at peak times:

    1) LUAS Saggart to Abbey Street (50 minutes)
    (Note - do not go to Connolly due to a long walk and unnecessary doubling back)

    2) Walk to Tara Street Station (6 minutes)

    3) DART to Blackrock (14 minutes)

    4) Walk to Elite Fitness (12 minutes)

    That's a total of 1 hour 22 minutes, so roughly 90 minutes each way, rather than 2 hours.

    Download the realtime information apps also to assist you to see when trains/trams are due to avoid unnecessary waiting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    Hanley wrote: »
    Can you drive? Could you hire a car?

    It'd be much more cost and time effective I'd say.

    Plus parking outside EFPA is only €5/day if you park in the DL zone on Brookfield Terrace.

    Do you know if there is plenty of parking in that zone? I don't want to have to be worrying about parking as well.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Cycle? Or B&B on Northside close to DART? (Clontarf or similar).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Do you know if there is plenty of parking in that zone? I don't want to have to be worrying about parking as well.

    Yeah you'll usually get some there alright.

    I think Air B and B is actually your best bet.

    You could get somewhere within walking distance of EFPA for €30-40/night.

    B&B/Hotels are always going to be insanely pricey.

    https://www.airbnb.ie/s/Dublin--Blackrock--Ireland?checkin=20-07-2015&checkout=31-07-2015&source=bb&ss_id=u1370wuj

    I'd say 10-15 per day in petrol, plus 5-8 in parking AND loads of travel time, never mind the cost of the car, means you'd actually net out at about the same, or better off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭evilberry


    You can get there in less than 1 hr. Get Luas to Tallaght and cycle... it's only 10 miles. Would take you about 30-40 min cycle, it's for free and less stressing than driving a car. You will contribute to your health and won't have any waiting time. Especially that it's only for two weeks.

    That's what I'd do anyways :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭NoCrackHaving


    evilberry wrote: »
    You can get there in less than 1 hr. Get Luas to Tallaght and cycle... it's only 10 miles. Would take you about 30-40 min cycle, it's for free and less stressing than driving a car. You will contribute to your health and won't have any waiting time. Especially that it's only for two weeks.

    That's what I'd do anyways :)


    There's no way you'll do Tallaght to Blackrock in half an hour by bike, especially if you've never cycled before and don't know the city. Honestly you'd be looking at more like 75-80 minutes I'd say and that's one way, quite hilly going back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    There's no way you'll do Tallaght to Blackrock in half an hour by bike, especially if you've never cycled before and don't know the city. Honestly you'd be looking at more like 75-80 minutes I'd say and that's one way, quite hilly going back.

    That's what I thought. I never cycle in Sligo, I don't think now would be a good time to start cycling in Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    Hi again,

    Still haven't made up my mind as to which option would be best.

    At the moment, I'm down to:

    1) Luas to Rialto and 17 bus to Blackrock

    2) 65B and 17 buses to Blackrock

    3) Rent a car and drive.


    I have been looking at both the bus links included on page 1 of the thread, I'm ok with the timetables but I haven't a clue what is meant by 'fare stages' at the bottom of the page and what the double numbers mean beside it. I'm trying to work out the cost of the both buses versus the cost of the Luas and the bus.

    I worked out the Luas to Rialto as €4.80 return every day.

    Also, on the 17 bus route, I see there is a stop on Blackrock Main Street before Blackrock station (which of those stops would be closer to Elite Fitness does anyone know?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭NoCrackHaving


    Hi again,

    Still haven't made up my mind as to which option would be best.

    At the moment, I'm down to:

    1) Luas to Rialto and 17 bus to Blackrock

    2) 65B and 17 buses to Blackrock

    3) Rent a car and drive.


    I have been looking at both the bus links included on page 1 of the thread, I'm ok with the timetables but I haven't a clue what is meant by 'fare stages' at the bottom of the page and what the double numbers mean beside it. I'm trying to work out the cost of the both buses versus the cost of the Luas and the bus.

    I worked out the Luas to Rialto as €4.80 return every day.

    Also, on the 17 bus route, I see there is a stop on Blackrock Main Street before Blackrock station (which of those stops would be closer to Elite Fitness does anyone know?)


    The 17 is a truly awful bus service, notoriously slow and nearly always late (well used to be back in 2010/2011, maybe it's improved now), really would be wary of relying on it.

    Also the difference between Blackrock Main Street and the station is about 50 seconds walking so really wouldn't matter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    The 17 is a truly awful bus service, notoriously slow and nearly always late (well used to be back in 2010/2011, maybe it's improved now), really would be wary of relying on it.

    Also the difference between Blackrock Main Street and the station is about 50 seconds walking so really wouldn't matter

    Aw really? I thought it was a new route, this is the link I was given: http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-Route-17/

    If you had the choice though, would you pick the two buses or the Luas and bus option?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Babooshka


    Aw really? I thought it was a new route, this is the link I was given: http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-Route-17/

    If you had the choice though, would you pick the two buses or the Luas and bus option?

    Hi! I don't know what the 65B is like in the mornings but I work in Citywest and I used to get it to Terenure to make a connecting bus to Knocklyon and that took me almost two hours to do it. 65B several times never arrived, but that was always on Friday afternoons at about 4pm, I think maybe that they just used to decide to quit early and to hell with their passengers as it was a Friday, you could be ok in the morning time, if you could check that bit out you might be ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    I'd go with the Luas & Dart option, it's the only option that you can gauge accurately

    21/25



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭NoCrackHaving


    Aw really? I thought it was a new route, this is the link I was given: http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-Route-17/

    If you had the choice though, would you pick the two buses or the Luas and bus option?

    Maybe it's a new route to an extent but looks very similar to the old 17 route.

    Personally I'd hire a car for the two weeks, cuts a journey of an hour and a half each way down to 35-40 minutes depending on traffic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    uch wrote: »
    I'd go with the Luas & Dart option, it's the only option that you can gauge accurately

    I know, I have been speaking with them in Elite and they recommend the Luas to Connolly and DART to Blackrock option as best. They said the DART is only 20 minutes from Connolly. I think I'll manage the timing a lot better than I would with buses.

    I'm so bad I can't even visualise where the DART is at Connolly station, I've been there loads of time but usually platform 4 Sligo to Dublin train and I never look one side nor the other.

    So unlike booking rail tickets in advance, with the DART do you just show up like you would for a bus and wait for it to come? I plan on getting one of those Leapcards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    Just one other thing to note - very early in the morning or late at night, the Luas trams from Saggart are just shuttles to Belgard (you get off there and get on the next one to town), so you might need to factor that in. They usually run them close together though so it wouldn't be a long wait in the mornings (late at night it could be).

    Also, if the tram is going to The Point, just get off at Busaras (it's right across the road from Connolly).

    EDIT: You can use the Leap Card on the Dart. Just tag on at the station and go to the Dart platforms (no booking or anything).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Konata


    I know, I have been speaking with them in Elite and they recommend the Luas to Connolly and DART to Blackrock option as best. They said the DART is only 20 minutes from Connolly. I think I'll manage the timing a lot better than I would with buses.

    I'm so bad I can't even visualise where the DART is at Connolly station, I've been there loads of time but usually platform 4 Sligo to Dublin train and I never look one side nor the other.

    So unlike booking rail tickets in advance, with the DART do you just show up like you would for a bus and wait for it to come? I plan on getting one of those Leapcards.

    Y'know when you go through the ticket barriers at Connolly and the Sligo train is usually straight in front of you? Well this time head over to the far left and there're signs to follow then for the DART platforms. You just turn up and wait for it to come indeed. You scan your Leapcard (or pop in your ticket - buy at the same ticket machines as the train tickets) to get through the ticket barriers, and scan out at the station you get off at. I've never been to Blackrock DART station so I don't know if it's an exit barrier or a pole like at the LUAS stations - someone else might drop in with that info.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,286 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Hi again,

    Still haven't made up my mind as to which option would be best.

    At the moment, I'm down to:

    1) Luas to Rialto and 17 bus to Blackrock

    2) 65B and 17 buses to Blackrock

    3) Rent a car and drive.


    I have been looking at both the bus links included on page 1 of the thread, I'm ok with the timetables but I haven't a clue what is meant by 'fare stages' at the bottom of the page and what the double numbers mean beside it. I'm trying to work out the cost of the both buses versus the cost of the Luas and the bus.

    I worked out the Luas to Rialto as €4.80 return every day.

    Also, on the 17 bus route, I see there is a stop on Blackrock Main Street before Blackrock station (which of those stops would be closer to Elite Fitness does anyone know?)

    I don't want to be abrupt, but I gave you the fastest option of the lot in my post above.

    I also told you to use the national journey planner at www.a-b.ie.

    That is LUAS to Abbey Street, walk to Tara Street, and DART to Blackrock.

    Nothing else will come close.

    You will be wasting time and money if you do anything else, but that's up to you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭slinky2000


    Yea I agree with the above. Why would you go all the way to Connolly to get the dart when you can walk from abbey street to Tara St in about 5minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭messrs


    OP - if you are using public transport look into buying a leap card - its €5 for the card (refundable) so basically you get a card in a shop, give them €20 and then its €5 for the card and you will have €15 travel credit - a lot easier than having to have correct change all the time. If you are travelling by Luas you just tag on and of before and after each journey and if by bus, just place your card on the reader beside the bus drive and state your destination and he will deduct the relevant fare.
    If you live right beside the Luas then id go with the Luas to city and bus/dart to Blackrock option - again bearing in mind the time you are travelling at and the traffic - I think the number 7 also goes out to blackrock -
    have you looked into the cost of hiring a car? I know a girl I worked with hired out a car for 10 days and it was crazy expensive, daily rate for car & daily insurance rate - maybe she was just unlucky and went to the wrong place but she was in a hurry with it so just went with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭messrs


    maybe try this website

    www.carsharing.ie

    don't know if there would be anything on it, but if its only for 2 weeks you maybe be able to get lift with someone that lives close by - even change your location from Saggart to Tallaght, if there was someone going you could always get luas to square and meet someone there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,286 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    The 17 is a truly awful bus service, notoriously slow and nearly always late (well used to be back in 2010/2011, maybe it's improved now), really would be wary of relying on it.

    Also the difference between Blackrock Main Street and the station is about 50 seconds walking so really wouldn't matter

    The 17 is not a truly awful service by any means, but it is not designed to take people from Rialto to Blackrock, which is the mistake so many people seem to make.

    The route is designed to facilitate shorter trips between major traffic generators, trips such as Rialto to Crumlin Village or KCR, Crumlin to Rathfarnham, Terenure & Rathfarnham to Nutgrove or UCD for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    slinky2000 wrote: »

    I'm not from Dublin, I live in Sligo and never cycle, I don't even own a bike. I couldn't imagine cycling in a major city with no experience would be a good place to start but thanks anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    lxflyer wrote: »
    I don't want to be abrupt, but I gave you the fastest option of the lot in my post above.

    I also told you to use the national journey planner at www.a-b.ie.

    That is LUAS to Abbey Street, walk to Tara Street, and DART to Blackrock.

    Nothing else will come close.

    You will be wasting time and money if you do anything else, but that's up to you.

    No it's ok, I'm just finding it hard to visulize things. If you can just see it from my point of view for a sec, or try and bare with me while I explain...

    I looked at the Luas red line route map and (to me) there seems to be very little distance between Abbey Street and Connolly Station so my thinking on it is, is it not worth just staying on the Luas which goes straight to the station to save the walk and get the DART at Connolly.

    I don't see what exactly I am saving on by getting the DART at an earlier Luas stop.

    (When I say 'save the walk' I haven't a problem with walking it's just I have ZERO sense of direction, I'm very bad, and if the Tara Street station isn't straight on front of me I'll have a job finding it, albeit 5 minutes or not).

    I'm familiar with Connolly more so, than any other station so that's why I'm inclined to stick with what I know.

    I have used the JP and Irish Rail and the only difference I can see is that the DART journey time is 5 minutes less to Blackrock but I'll be walking for 5 minutes anyway.

    Maybe I'm missing something...or maybe I'm missing a big saving on time between the Abbey St and Connolly stop but I can't get the journey time info on the Luas website. Hope you can see where I'm coming from, if I'm totally wrong please tell me and I do appreciate your advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭messrs


    Connolly is 2 stops after Abbey Street - next one is Bus Aras, then Connolly straight after ( just make sure to check luas is going to Conolly as if not it will be going straight to the point) in saying that Connolly is literally across the road from Bus Aras so if luas you are on is going to the point get of at Bus Aras instead. Then DART straight to Blackrock - still reccomed getting the leap card OP as you save on fares with this aswell, don't know what the savings are for luas or DART but on Dublin Bus a cash fare which would be €3.30 only costs €2.60 when using leap card


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,286 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    No it's ok, I'm just finding it hard to visulize things. If you can just see it from my point of view for a sec, or try and bare with me while I explain...

    I looked at the Luas red line route map and (to me) there seems to be very little distance between Abbey Street and Connolly Station so my thinking on it is, is it not worth just staying on the Luas which goes straight to the station to save the walk and get the DART at Connolly.

    I don't see what exactly I am saving on by getting the DART at an earlier Luas stop.

    (When I say 'save the walk' I haven't a problem with walking it's just I have ZERO sense of direction, I'm very bad, and if the Tara Street station isn't straight on front of me I'll have a job finding it, albeit 5 minutes or not).

    I'm familiar with Connolly more so, than any other station so that's why I'm inclined to stick with what I know.

    I have used the JP and Irish Rail and the only difference I can see is that the DART journey time is 5 minutes less to Blackrock but I'll be walking for 5 minutes anyway.

    Maybe I'm missing something...or maybe I'm missing a big saving on time between the Abbey St and Connolly stop but I can't get the journey time info on the Luas website. Hope you can see where I'm coming from, if I'm totally wrong please tell me and I do appreciate your advice.

    OK, if you take the LUAS to Connolly, you then have to walk from the LUAS to one of platforms 5 or 6 to go southbound, which is not insignificant.

    However, if you get off at Abbey Street, you will have walked to Tara Street Station by the time the tram is only arriving at Connolly, if not beforehand.

    This could be the difference between catching one DART or having to wait for the next one. Given you want to keep your commuting time to a minimum that I would suggest is kind of important.

    As for knowing one station better than another, Tara Street is a station that only has one southbound and one northbound platform. You are seriously over-complicating this.

    Here is the walk from Abbey Street LUAS stop to Tara Street Station on Google Maps. Follow the dotted line. https://goo.gl/maps/bvYBn

    Just please accept this - it is shorter if you are going southbound on the DART.

    Why don't you do a trial run and familiarise yourself - the location of Tara Street Station is not that hard to find - it's at the southern side of the railway bridge over the Liffey.

    As others said - get a LEAP card and load the epurse with cash. You tag on and tag off on both the LUAS and on the DART.

    Fares will be:

    Morning
    LUAS: €2.24
    Irish Rail: €2.05

    The system will apply a €1 discount to the second fare (once you start it within 90 minutes of the first one), which means a total fare of €3.29.

    On the return trip, the LUAS will cost €2.19, (a higher fare applies in the morning peak) which means the total fare will be €3.24.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,127 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    hire a car, will be easier if you are over 25 as they wont have the under 25 loading... That trip any other way is a joke!

    http://www.rentalcars.com/SearchResults.do;jsessionid=07ED81584E5DB597A32C930618A5810B.node391a?dropCity=Dublin&doMinute=30&location=-1&driversAge=25&doHour=11&filterName=CarCategorisationSupplierFilter&locationName=Dublin+%28All+areas%29+&searchType=allareasgeosearch&doFiltering=true&puSameAsDo=on&city=Dublin&puHour=11&dropCountryCode=&dropCountry=Ireland&puDay=8&filterTo=49&dropLocation=-1&driverage=on&doDay=22&countryCode=&dropLocationName=Dublin+%28All+areas%29+&country=Ireland&enabler=&filterFrom=0&puMonth=6&puMinute=30&doMonth=6&doYear=2015&puYear=2015&fromLocChoose=true&filter_carclass=economy&filterAdditionalInfo=&advSearch=&exSuppliers=&displayPricePerDay=false

    if you only need it Monday to Friday, hire in city centre and collect on Monday and drop back on Friday and the same the following week, or just keep it and pay the little extra to avoid the hassle.

    This is the problem with the crap transport network we have, anyone who can drive would be out of their mind to undertake certain journeys in this city, as getting into the city centre is straight forward, but the rest of it...

    If we had Dart Underground and the more frequent dart service that is due to begin soon AFAIK, i.e. every 10 minutes at peak, it would be a lot more feasible...


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