ex employer drama

annb24

Hi guys I just need some advice please I have started a new job as relief staff in a creche and my ex employer sent me this message this morning

HI ann

Received a letter in the post this morning to complete in reference to the time you worked here.

Please be advised that I am not to be used as a referee in The future

How will that affect my current job if they try and contact them and what could or Hi Ann.

Received a letter in the post this morning to complete in reference to the time you worked here.

Please be advised that I am not to be used as a referee in future.

I'm just wondering what could happen with my current job if they try to contact them

I'm nervous now

Slydice

For Now
Find out which of your other previous employers will give you a reference (by phone calling them and asking). Let your new job know that your previous employer does not do references (if they ask why, just say that they just told you they don't do references) and give them one of the alternatives.

For the future and your CV
Beside them on your CV, write something like:
Please note that this employer does not give out references.

At the bottom of your CV in the References section, have the following: References available upon request.

Employers should ask you for your references. When you give references, be sure you have called previous employers and asked if they'll give you one first.

annb24

I know for definate that the other 2 references would give one, if the creche can't get in contact with the most recent one could they see that as a sign or reason for sacking? ?

MouseTail

It would raise a red flag, perhaps not that you were sacked, but that you left on bad terms. Afaik employers must give a reference, even if it just says 'annb was employed here from x date to y date'.

ScouseMouse

Tread carefully. It may or may not be true that an employer HAS to give you a reference but if an employer wants to put the boot into you, all they have to do is phrase it like:


"Ann worked here for 2 years. Her perfomance was ok.

Signed

xxxx"

I have seen this done to an ejit troublemaker. Its not what the reference says, but what it doesn't say. If for some reason your ex-employer is being difficult, try to go around them.

greendom

is there someone in the creche, team leader or other manager, who could provide a personal reference ?

gandalf

I never put references directly on my CV and I always ring my references in advance of issuing them to a potential employer to confirm they are happy to be contacted.

The only downside I see is if you put her as a reference, the new employer would rightly question why you did this when she clearly doesn't want to give a reference.

Assuming that there wasn't a reason for her not to give a reference for you I would guess she either doesn't want to waste time giving references or has given one in the past that has landed her in hot water.

godtabh

Did you not ask could you use them as a reference?

RainyDay

ScouseMouse wrote: »

Tread carefully. It may or may not be true that an employer HAS to give you a reference but if an employer wants to put the boot into you, all they have to do is phrase it like:


"Ann worked here for 2 years. Her perfomance was ok.

Signed

xxxx"

I have seen this done to an ejit troublemaker. Its not what the reference says, but what it doesn't say. If for some reason your ex-employer is being difficult, try to go around them.

Many organisations now will give only references that say "X worked her as Y from dd/mm/yy to dd/mm/yy". This would not necessarily be a red flag for a person checking a reference. I don't believe that there is any explicit legal obligation on any employer to give any reference at all.

OP, is there anyone else that you worked with there, perhaps someone also departed, who could give you a reference for your time there?

Geniass

annb24 wrote: »

Please be advised that I am not to be used as a referee in The future

Not to be used in the future. Does that mean she will give a reference this time?

You should only give references for people you've contacted and asked them if it is okay. You should also contact them if it is likely an employer will contact them for a reference for a particular job.

I disagree with the advice above where they suggested you highlight on your CV previous employers that don't give references. That's raising doubts that no one needs.

I've never heard of interviewers contacting ex employers without asking permission. Usually they request referees and only contact them. If they do request to contact a certain ex employer they will ask you. Then mention if that's the person that has said she doesn't give out references to ex employees.

ElleEm

Have you any idea of why she does not want to give you references in the future? I have never heard of this!

starlit

I usually just add in CV as referees on request as I have a few but only wish that they contact certain referees. So anytime they asked for a ref they usually asked permission first or requested on application form. Usually have one or two each of an academic and employer referee examples.

Its a bit unfair I've never heard of someone say that. Did you contact them as a referee before hand?