Fall at Work

vanessamee

Hey quick question I'm a Chef and had a bad fall today at work and ended up in a&e all day thigh badly bruised and sprained elbow very sore and swollen. Doc gave me four days off work which I can't really afford to take could I ask work for sick pay as it was due to a water spill that was not cleaned or had any sign up advising wet floor

P_1

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/disability_and_illness/injury_benefit.html

Work mightn't pay you out of their own pocket, however you can claim for illness benefit for the days you are off.

vanessamee

I'm only off four days and sick certs do not cover first 3days so pointless really to claim for one day as I will be more than likely be back at work before I even get paid from social welfare

fleet_admiral

Were you wearing safety shoes?

kneemos

vanessamee wrote: »

I'm only off four days and sick certs do not cover first 3days so pointless really to claim for one day as I will be more than likely be back at work before I even get paid from social welfare

If you fell at work the very least you'd expect is your wages paid.

If not sue the fcukers.See how they like them apples.

Massimo Cassagrande

Water on a kitchen floor?? What next? Hot gas rings?? The reckless feckers.

GLaDOS

Gimmie a minute OP, gonna clean this up and move to a more suitable forum

Edit: moved to Work & Jobs, please read their forum charter

racso1975

Dont forget to remind them they need to contact the H.S.A. if you are out that long

davo10

Water on the floor in a kitchen? Have you ever burned your fingers or cut them with a knife? You could threaten them but I suspect your future employment opportunities would be limited as no employer could guarantee that there is no water on floor in a kitchen, who wants to employ a chef who expects water not to be spilled in a kitchen?

king size mars bar

The water was not cleaned up and staff not notified of the hazard with the absence of warning signs whether it be in a kitchen or a factory is still not right and IS a health and safety matter. If you are out for 3 days or more ,not including the day of the accident due to an injury from an accident at work HSA will have to be notified.

Mrs OBumble

davo10 wrote: »

Water on the floor in a kitchen? Have you ever burned your fingers or cut them with a knife? You could threaten them but I suspect your future employment opportunities would be limited as no employer could guarantee that there is no water on floor in a kitchen, who wants to employ a chef who expects water not to be spilled in a kitchen?

Bit harsh: if the environment is so dangerous that a fall results in four days off work, then there's a problem.

OP, I'm pretty sure that Illness Benefit doesn't cover the first six days now (used to be three).

One option is that you make a claim thru the Injuries Board: http://www.injuriesboard.ie/eng/How-to-make-a-claim/

I have a feeling that doing so might mean you cannot take legal action otherwise - but it means that you don't need to pay lawyers either. I'm afraid I don't know much about this area, though, and whether there might be any downsides.

You could try a conversation with the employer first - maybe they'll pay your wages anyway, maybe they'll agree to do so if you agree not to go to the injuries board, etc.

Standard advice is for you to see a lawyer with employment experience - but that can be expensive.

DrGreenthumb

gotta love the double standards of the mods on boards, they delete some comments but not others

vanessamee

First of all I'm a hardy person yes I've got cuts burns and scalds u name it I've had them. The kp spilled the mop bucket in the cold room when cleaning he went to get towels and closed the cold room door I went in after him and got smacked upside down in the pool of water he did not notify any of us as it was a busy lunch service my arm is all bandaged up and in a sling I'm only asking if it would be cheeky of me to ask my place of work to pay me while I'm out for the four days as injury benefit only covers me if I'm out six days not four.

vanessamee

Thanks for the info guys but I don't want to go through injury board or anything like that.

Mrs OBumble

No it would not be cheeky at all.

Mrs OBumble

DrGreenthumb wrote: »

gotta love the double standards of the mods on boards, they delete some comments but not others

If you have a problem with a post, you know where the report button is found. Use it.

I've cut you and some others slack because this thread was moved from AH. Won't be so kindly disposed in the morning.

cj maxx

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

No it would not be cheeky at all.

Totally agree . Found myself off for a few days due to a fall ( in construction ) and the employer paid me ( even thoigh i wasnt expecting it )
Talk to them and explain how it happened . If it wasnt your fault they should feel obliged not to dock yoi but if they see it it was someone elses fault and wont pay you then at least tou know where you stand
I m no lawyer mind you

th283

It really depends on your employer OP, most places when they know you got injured at work in an accident that wasn't your fault will make some allowance and either pay your wages or let you take holidays. I had an accident in the kitchen a while back and the hotel paid me for part of my time off and took holidays for the rest.

It would definatley be worth having a chat to your head chef. This is not a cut or a burn as some posters have compared it to, it's serious enough injury that you were signed off work, it didn't happen as a result of your negligence but someone else's

Hope you feel better soon

Frynge

kneemos wrote: »

If you fell at work the very least you'd expect is your wages paid.

If not sue the fcukers.See how they like them apples.

I'm sure they would like them apples. Once someone sues in the hospitality industry there is an uncanny way of word getting out not to employ such a person. Rightly or wrongly it is the way life goes.


Realistically op it is not cheeky to ask them to cove sićk pay particularly if a genuine accident.

I would point out though, is it something your employer is liable for or would it be more accurate to say it was the failings of one of your colleagues that resulted in your injury.
By that I mean you have already stated you work in a kitchen, and it was a kp spilling water and not notifying anyone that lead to this mishap. Was the kp trained sufficiently by the HC in how to deal with this and many similar situations?

fleet_admiral

HHmmmmm I asked the op if he was wearing safety shoes and the post was deleted
It was a genuine question

Mrs OBumble

fleet_admiral wrote: »

HHmmmmm I asked the op if he was wearing safety shoes and the post was deleted
It was a genuine question

Sorry 'bout that. It was mixed in a bunch of less-appropriate posts that were deleted then the thread was moved here. Has now been re-instated

vanessamee

Yes I was wearing safety shoes in answer to your question all chefs in our hotel will not be aloud enter kitchen if appropriate footwear is not worn

Geniass

vanessamee wrote: »

Yes I was wearing safety shoes in answer to your question all chefs in our hotel will not be aloud enter kitchen if appropriate footwear is not worn

I'm usually employer focused, but in this case I think a good/smart employer would pay you.

sparkling sea

You should ring Citizens Info and get some info on Occupational Injuries Beneift, they can also book you an appointment with FLAC, that way you will get free info from an employment law solicitor.

You may also need to go to your own GP again regarding certs, thats if you aren't fit enough to resume work.
You could also contact NERA if you wanted more info regarding you employment rights.

Google both for contact details and just give them a ring, you can ask them to ring you back to save on phone charges, they do this all the time.