Marriage Referendum - The Commodification of Children

Maple77

Hello Forum,

Anyone who doesn’t consider a gay couple’s love equal to that of a straight couple is mistaken.

Anyone who believes that a gay couple’s union is lesser than a straight couple’s union in the eyes of God is, I believe, mistaken.

Anyone who does not want to give gay couples all the same legal protections under the law as straight couples is mistaken.

Anyone who thinks that the proposal to change the Irish Constitution’s definition of marriage will not lead to an increase in the commodification of children is also mistaken.

Rather than being unconnected to surrogacy this referendum has served to highlight the fact that the current government has already rejected the option of banning surrogacy and plans to legalise the practice.



Voting yes will simply copper-fasten the right of one community, none of whom can produce children independently, to avail of this option, thereby increasing the market for sperm, eggs and surrogates.

Children have already become commodities in certain parts of the world because of the demand for babies from straight and gay couples – do we want to increase this demand?


The ship has not sailed. Give all children, gay or straight, the chance to be nurtured and loved throughout their life by their mother and father. We should begin at this point because we, all of us, begin at this point.

We must give priority to legislating for what is best for future children and only then for what is best for people who want to have children but can’t. If the constitution doesn’t place the welfare of children at its centre then it is deeply flawed.
It matters. Right now, more than anything else. Vote No on Friday and let’s talk about what our next step, together, will be.



We need to ensure that gay unions are seen under the law as equally legitimate and worthy as straight unions, because they are.



We do not need to, nor should we, disinherit future generations of children.


For further information of how this constitutional change will lead to an increase in the existing market for children see this article: http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/analysis/surrogacy-is-not-a-red-herring-in-this-debate-331458.html

Fleawuss

I wish AH would close the fecking pulpit.

sydthebeat

The Catholic church has been commodifying children for eons.

padz

totally agree with the op! voting no

ThisRegard

The OP is also mistaken.

bjork

Thats an interesting article OP and something I had concerns about which still have not been fully resolved. I tend to agree with what the author is saying.

galljga1

There is no 'right' to assisted reproduction. The court has already ruled on that. Essentially this means there is no right to surrogacy. Whether a yes or no vote is carried access to surrogacy will remain the same for all, that includes heterosexual and homosexual. It does need to be legislated for or against as the case may be but a yes or no vote is not going to change it either way.

Sheldons Brain

sydthebeat wrote: »

The Catholic church has been commodifying children for eons.

And that justifies what, exactly?

CramCycle

Not going to post anything meaningful, but just thought I would share my impression these threads give me.

It's an old Bond movie, the first time you see it, it's good, but it soon becomes repetitive. The odd one has a screwball but the pitch is the same. Don't get me wrong, I will still watch it but doesn't mean there is anything we haven't seen before.

efb

Who can create children independently?


Mary lied.