Why are Irish women in general so fascinated by the British Royal family?

gormdubhgorm

With Prince Charles visiting Ireland - it struck me how all the Union Jack flag wavers were women/young children.

My own mother seems to have great interest in Royal Baby x, y or z. Funnier still she tells me that my grandmother used to have great fascination with the British royals and used to read Hello magazine.
But I was also told of stories how the Black and Tans used to announce outside houses in my Grandmothers day and say "Open up in the name of the law" while battering the door.

How do women seem to ignore political realities and celebrate a persons arrival who only happens to be there by birthright? Phrases used are "elegant" "style".
The women seem to get very excited about the whole thing is this because they are "celebrities?
For women in general, does celebrity and spectacle triumph over political realities?

keeponhurling

Women seem to be generally more interested in "celebs"
Not only the British royal family

OldMrBrennan83

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Knasher

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

For women in general, does celebrity and spectacle triumph over political realities?

I don't know, but it will be interesting to see how many people are glued to the World Cup in Qatar, considering the slave labour that has gone into setting it up. The previous World Cup, and Russian Olympics also had some troubling political realities, but I really hope that Qatar crosses a line for people.

darkpagandeath

Nearest country with a monarchy. They would do the same if the Norwegian Royals came over.

LeinsterDub

Royal family == English soccer teams for the women folk

Aurum

I'm an Irish woman and I think that they're the noxious, anachronistic remnants of medieval feudalism and the personification of everything that is wrong about hereditary privilege.

Mr_Muffin

It's because they all secretly want to become a princess and have that dream wedding in front of the entire world.

In other words all women want to be a princess.

byhookorbycrook

I'm more interested in the historical aspects and the people of Mulllaghmore in particular in this visit. I don't do royal babies, clothes or any of that crap, I have a life.

Mr_Muffin

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

It's because they all secretly want to become a princess and have that dream wedding in front of the entire world.

In other words all women want to be a princess.

Eh. No.

byhookorbycrook

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

It's because they all secretly want to become a princess and have that dream wedding in front of the entire world.

In other words all women want to be a princess.

Not this woman

Rothko

I don't know anyone that's interested in them.

bodice ripper

Perhaps something about you attracts particularly vacuous women, OP.

John_Rambo

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Nearest country with a monarchy

+1 A lot of us grew up with the BBC. Why are Irish men in general so fascinated with British soccer teams etc...

gormdubhgorm

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Royal family == English soccer teams for the women folk

As long as the women don't start using the Royal "We" that Soccer supporters from Ireland use for the English soccer teams When some guy from Ballyhaunis or Ballymun on a phone-in station and says "We" need a new manager Wenger/Rodgers has to go etc, etc :rolleyes:

Yellowblackbird

John_Rambo wrote: »

Why are Irish men in general so fascinated with British soccer teams etc...

If you're a good footballer from ireland where do you end up playing?

end of the road

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

With Prince Charles visiting Ireland - it struck me how all the Union Jack flag wavers were women/young children.

My own mother seems to have great interest in Royal Baby x, y or z. Funnier still she tells me that my grandmother used to have great fascination with the British royals and used to read Hello magazine.
But I was also told of stories how the Black and Tans used to announce outside houses in my Grandmothers day and say "Open up in the name of the law" while battering the door.

How do women seem to ignore political realities and celebrate a persons arrival who only happens to be there by birthright? Phrases used are "elegant" "style".
The women seem to get very excited about the whole thing is this because they are "celebrities?
For women in general, does celebrity and spectacle triumph over political realities?

some men seem to be the same as well. what i do hate is those who refuse to accept that some don't wish to faun over the royal family.

end of the road

Knasher wrote: »

I don't know, but it will be interesting to see how many people are glued to the World Cup in Qatar, considering the slave labour that has gone into setting it up. The previous World Cup, and Russian Olympics also had some troubling political realities, but I really hope that Qatar crosses a line for people.

it should, but i don't think it will sadly

silverfeather

Deleted User wrote: »

Eh. No.

I am one!

silverfeather

Fairy Princess ..best kind!:):p

TheBeardedLady

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

With Prince Charles visiting Ireland - it struck me how all the Union Jack flag wavers were women/young children.

My own mother seems to have great interest in Royal Baby x, y or z. Funnier still she tells me that my grandmother used to have great fascination with the British royals and used to read Hello magazine.
But I was also told of stories how the Black and Tans used to announce outside houses in my Grandmothers day and say "Open up in the name of the law" while battering the door.

How do women seem to ignore political realities and celebrate a persons arrival who only happens to be there by birthright? Phrases used are "elegant" "style".
The women seem to get very excited about the whole thing is this because they are "celebrities?
For women in general, does celebrity and spectacle triumph over political realities?

Is the only woman you know your mam? :-/



So, shall we retitle the thread as : why is my mam so fascinated by the British Royal Family (and insist on spitting on a Kleenex and wiping my face in public when I'm a big boy and can do it myself)?

ihavenoname3

Probably something to do with our inferiority complex.

silverfeather

silverfeather wrote: »

I am one!

Whatever you're into.

You're not all women though.

Paramite Pie

John_Rambo wrote: »

+1 A lot of us grew up with the BBC. Why are Irish men in general so fascinated with British soccer teams etc...

I think you just might be right. We only had RTE & later TG4/TV3. I couldn't give a flying f*ck about soccer teams or celebs/royals. Yay.

My brother watches soccer (Dad never did) but he doesn't support a team - he's just watching cos of his fantasy football thingy.

silverfeather

Deleted User wrote: »

Whatever you're into.

You're not all women though.

Deffo not.

Cold War Kid

silverfeather wrote: »

Deffo not.

Meh, I certainly didn't see you imply you were.

LeinsterDub

Yellowblackbird wrote: »

If you're a good footballer from ireland where do you end up playing?

Croker?

Summer wind

I'm a woman and I've no interest in the royals. I don't want to be a princess.

jamesbere

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

As long as the women don't start using the Royal "We" that Soccer supporters from Ireland use for the English soccer teams When some guy from Ballyhaunis or Ballymun on a phone-in station and says "We" need a new manager Wenger/Rodgers has to go etc, etc :rolleyes:

From a fella that supports an English team, I get great entertainment when it annoys someone that I say "we"

The_Valeyard

I like Prince Philip for the following reasons:


After being told that Madonna was singing the Die Another Day theme in 2002: “Are we going to need ear plugs?”

To Simon Kelner, republican editor of The Independent, at Windsor Castle reception: “What are you doing here?” “I was invited, sir.” Philip: “Well, you didn’t have to come.”

To female sea cadet last year: “Do you work in a strip club?”

To expats in Abu Dhabi last year: “Are you running away from something?”

After accepting a conservation award in Thailand in 1991: “Your country is one of the most notorious centres of trading in endangered species.”

To multi-ethnic Britain’s Got Talent 2009 winners Diversity: “Are you all one family?”

To President of Nigeria, who was in national dress, 2003: “You look like you’re ready for bed!”

To a tourist in Budapest in 1993: “You can’t have been here long, you haven’t got a pot belly.”

On seeing an exhibition of "primitive" Ethiopian art, he muttered: "It looks like the kind of thing my daughter would bring back from her school art lessons."

China State Visit, 1986 "If you stay here much longer, you’ll all be slitty-eyed"

When asked if he would like to visit the Soviet Union: "I would like to go to Russia very much, although the bastards murdered half my family."

To an Aborigine in Australia “Do you still throw spears at each other?”

To a driving instructor in Scotland “How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?”

To a woman solicitor, 1987: “I thought it was against the law for a woman to solicit.”

To the matron of a hospital in the Caribbean “You have mosquitos. I have the Press”


His unapologetic, bigoted racist remarks do make me laugh. Every time he speaks the PC brigade get a little angrier.

jamesbere

Their more celebs now then actual royalty, page fillers for ok and hello magazines. They serve no purpose anymore to English society, they've no power nor do they have say on any government issue's.

Sam Kade

jamesbere wrote: »

Their more celebs now then actual royalty, page fillers for ok and hello magazines. They serve no purpose anymore to English society, they've no power nor do they have say on any government issue's.

They should be kicked out of the big house then and no more tax payers money for them

jamesbere

Sam Kade wrote: »

They should be kicked out of the big house then and no more tax payers money for them

Strangely enough I'd say they bring a lot of tourism to London, there's a big fascination in the Royal family

DoYouEvenLift

Nothing better going on in their lives, same as anyone who worships any form of a celebrity. You know you are an absolute loser when you would scream in excitement just because another human being whose job happens to be acting/singing/politics etc. is in your presence.


It's funny how a large amount of Irish people desperately seem to want to be American or British lol.

Sam Kade

jamesbere wrote: »

Strangely enough I'd say they bring a lot of tourism to London, there's a big fascination in the Royal family

Somehow I doubt the extra revenue would cover their costs.

Tigger99

I'm laughing at all the judgement here. I enjoy following what the royals do. I have no desire to be a princess. And I am far from vacuous. People all have different opinions shocker.

Sam Kade

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Nothing better going on in their lives, same as anyone who worships any form of a celebrity. You know you are an absolute loser when you would scream in excitement just because another human being whose job happens to be acting/singing/politics etc. is in your presence.


It's funny how a large amount of Irish people desperately seem to want to be American or British lol.

I notice that on here a lot :mad: Some clown started a thread today about a stranger taking a photo of his license plate :rolleyes: Solicitors have suddenly become lawyers.

strobe

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Nothing better going on in their lives, same as anyone who worships any form of a celebrity. You know you are an absolute loser when you would scream in excitement just because another human being whose job happens to be acting/singing/politics etc. is in your presence.


It's funny how a large amount of Irish people desperately seem to want to be American or British lol.

too troo brah.

riclad

I think some women have a fantasy ,if i was i was in the right place in the right time ,i could meet A price and get married .
It,s s like a fairytale .
and its good material for tabloids, magazines ,
royals ,get married ,get divorced , have affairs ,do stupid things ,
and they are all very rich.

Magazines like ok,etc need something to fill papers ,
the royals are like actors, celebritys ,
but without any particular talent .
The only qualification they need is be born ,
from royal parents.
And they always have children ,so theres always new storys to be written
on them.

The kennedys were the american version of the royal family .

IT must be boring to be going to partys or official ceremonys all the time,
and having to be polite to everyone .
ITS like being madonna etc you always have to have bodygaurds with
you .
you cant just go into mcdonalds for a burger .
They are always in the public eye ,
and are folowed all the time by photographers .

Cold War Kid

Tigger99 wrote: »

I'm laughing at all the judgement here. I enjoy following what the royals do. I have no desire to be a princess. And I am far from vacuous. People all have different opinions shocker.

I only object to "All women want to be princesses" - where do people get this stuff from?
Otherwise, all the best to ya!

LordSutch

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

With Prince Charles visiting Ireland - it struck me how all the Union Jack flag wavers were women/young children.

My own mother seems to have great interest in Royal Baby x, y or z. Funnier still she tells me that my grandmother used to have great fascination with the British royals and used to read Hello magazine.
But I was also told of stories how the Black and Tans used to announce outside houses in my Grandmothers day and say "Open up in the name of the law" while battering the door.

How do women seem to ignore political realities and celebrate a persons arrival who only happens to be there by birthright? Phrases used are "elegant" "style".
The women seem to get very excited about the whole thing is this because they are "celebrities?
For women in general, does celebrity and spectacle triumph over political realities?

Firstly, the Black & Tans were not part of the Royal family!

My own Mother, my wife & her mother are all obsessed with the Royals. In the doctors surgery waiting room the magazine pile is full of Hello & OK magazines packed with pictures of the Royals & their babies. They're magnetic, they're interesting, sometimes attractive, and people are generally attracted to them! The Royal family have always been popular in Ireland, and with William & Kate on the back burner, the Royals look like they have a very bright future, and Irish people will still be attracted to them for many years/decades to come.

DoYouEvenLift

strobe wrote: »

too troo brah.

Koo

jamesbere

Sam Kade wrote: »

Somehow I doubt the extra revenue would cover their costs.

True, I'd love to know the security costs for when there a royal outing

Tarzana2

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

As long as the women don't start using the Royal "We" that Soccer supporters from Ireland use for the English soccer teams When some guy from Ballyhaunis or Ballymun on a phone-in station and says "We" need a new manager Wenger/Rodgers has to go etc, etc :rolleyes:

I don't get this complaint at all. Obviously the people who say "we" are just using it as shorthand for "the team I support". That hardly needs to be spelled out, does it?

Tarzana2

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Meh, I certainly didn't see you imply you were.

Me neither. Unnecessarily terse response to the poor poster!

Graham

Sam Kade wrote: »

Somehow I doubt the extra revenue would cover their costs.

Costs to the UK for the royal family are approximately £35 million, additional tourist revenue alone is conservatively estimated at £500million.

Compare that to France where the head of state comes in at almost €100million p.a. And it looks like UK Inc is doing quite well out of the deal and that's before you even begin to consider the arguably more valuable global political benefits.

Sam Kade

Graham wrote: »

Costs to the UK for the royal family are approximately £35 million, additional tourist revenue alone is conservatively estimated at £500million.

Compare that to France where the head of state comes in at almost €100million p.a. And it looks like UK Inc is doing quite well out of the deal and that's before you even begin to consider the arguably more valuable global political benefits.

The tourist revenue is surely for all of the UK.

pwurple

Well, i'm only guessing, but if it was women and children waving flags, and it was during the day, I'd guess it was because some mammies/grannies picked some kids up from school, and they went off to see something historic happening in their area, while everyone else was off at work.

Not very groundbreaking, but sometimes the most boring answer is what happened.

Graham

Sam Kade wrote: »

The tourist revenue is surely for all of the UK.

No.

Seriously you reckon the entire UK only generates £10million per week in tourist revenue.

The tourism economy of the UK is approximately £130billion accounting for almost 10% of GDP.

Cold War Kid

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I like Prince Philip for the following reasons:


After being told that Madonna was singing the Die Another Day theme in 2002: “Are we going to need ear plugs?”

To Simon Kelner, republican editor of The Independent, at Windsor Castle reception: “What are you doing here?” “I was invited, sir.” Philip: “Well, you didn’t have to come.”

To female sea cadet last year: “Do you work in a strip club?”

To expats in Abu Dhabi last year: “Are you running away from something?”

After accepting a conservation award in Thailand in 1991: “Your country is one of the most notorious centres of trading in endangered species.”

To multi-ethnic Britain’s Got Talent 2009 winners Diversity: “Are you all one family?”

To President of Nigeria, who was in national dress, 2003: “You look like you’re ready for bed!”

To a tourist in Budapest in 1993: “You can’t have been here long, you haven’t got a pot belly.”

On seeing an exhibition of "primitive" Ethiopian art, he muttered: "It looks like the kind of thing my daughter would bring back from her school art lessons."

China State Visit, 1986 "If you stay here much longer, you’ll all be slitty-eyed"

When asked if he would like to visit the Soviet Union: "I would like to go to Russia very much, although the bastards murdered half my family."

To an Aborigine in Australia “Do you still throw spears at each other?”

To a driving instructor in Scotland “How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?”

To a woman solicitor, 1987: “I thought it was against the law for a woman to solicit.”

To the matron of a hospital in the Caribbean “You have mosquitos. I have the Press”


His unapologetic, bigoted racist remarks do make me laugh. Every time he speaks the PC brigade get a little angrier.

People don't really get angry by him tbh. His remarks are fairly tame. The "Prince Philip is a legend" thing is a bit tedious. It's like people feel like they're being right rebels by saying it about him.
And a lot of his comments make me laugh too, but they're not that outrageous really.

readyletsgo

Jaysus lads, who gives a ****. Liz has changed her image over the years (20 or 30 odd years with the English at least) And William and Harry seem like pretty sound lads.

They are just celebrities now. I know people have problems with the English monarch an all in Ireland but it really does not matter.

Get over yourselves! They don't really care tbh.