Reply from http://fibrerollout.ie/

EyesOnly

Hey all, just a bit of background first, I'm 3k away from my exchange in Roscommon, My Exchange is RCM1_001 and thought I would chance my arm and register my interest in the FTTH hoping I would be able to get.
Then I get this Email today

Dear David



Thank you for visiting the fibrerollout.ie site



You asked for an update on Roxborough, specifically 090xxxxxxx.



For areas outside our commercial deployment you may require the support of the Government intervention scheme. Under this plan, the Government intends to intervene in non-commercial areas of the market to ensure through State subsidy that all premises in the country will receive high-speed broadband regardless of location. The Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources Alex White, end of last year made an announcement (24th November 2014) regarding the status of the National Broadband Plan.



I checked your area on the Department site and it is included in the intervention footprint. All information relating to National Broadband plan you can get here www.broadband.gov.ie



In the meantime if you have any further queries please let me know.



Kind Regards

I'm like WTH... so I take it they are just offering FTTH to the People that can already get it in town....

MBSnr

EyesOnly wrote: »

Hey all, just a bit of background first, I'm 3k away from my exchange in Roscommon, My Exchange is RCM1_001 and thought I would chance my arm and register my interest in the FTTH hoping I would be able to get.
Then I get this Email today


I'm like WTH... so I take it they are just offering FTTH to the People that can already get it in town....

Edit - You probs know - Not FTTH (fibre to the home) yet but FTTC (fibre to the cabinet then copper to your house) or eVDSl (copper direct from the exchange). Your exchange would be RCM1_E01. Anyhow you'd get eVDSL directly from the exchange - but only up to 1800m away. If your line went to a street cab, you'd get VDSL up to 2Km away.

I feel your pain. I'm 2.5Km from an exchange and stuck on ADSL1.... I feel that the digital revolution is only 700m away... The irony....so close yet so far...

EyesOnly

MBSnr wrote: »

Not FTTH (fibre to the home) but FTTC (fibre to the cabinet then copper to your house) or eVDSl (copper direct from the exchange). Your exchange would be RCM1_E01. Anyhow you'd get eVDSL directly from the exchange - but only up to 1800m away. If your line went to a street cab, you'd get VDSL up to 2Km away.

I feel your pain. I'm 2.5Km from an exchange and stuck on ADSL1.... I feel that the digital revolution is only 700m away... The irony....so close yet so far...

Sucks , I had my hopes up when I saw the Email notification come in lol.
I'll just have to put my hopes into the NBP ...

ED E

Unless you're in a central area the profit margins arent there for ISPs to bother, eircom is debt laden as it is. You were always going to be NBP or nothing.

jca

Did you use the "keep me in the loop" tab to register your interest?

EyesOnly

jca wrote: »

Did you use the "keep me in the loop" tab to register your interest?

Yep that's the one.

jca

EyesOnly wrote: »

Yep that's the one.

Thanks I've registered my interest. I'll let you know how I get on. Luckily I'm already on efibre.

mass_debater

Rcm exchange is now live for eVDSL in case anyone else us watching this thread with interest

ItHurtsWhenIP

The Eircom wholesale twitter feed is pretty active the last few days advising of various cabs going live.

ED E

https://twitter.com/eircomwholesale/status/601300653827325952

Haha, hate to be the last few people who try and order, there are only 192 usable ports.

Praetorian

ED E wrote: »

https://twitter.com/eircomwholesale/status/601300653827325952

Haha, hate to be the last few people who try and order, there are only 192 usable ports.

I've seen quite a few cabs now that have an extra box on top, does that expand the 192 limitation?

Of course in that case if they have approx 201 houses, they likely won't get 192 orders

PeadarB

ED E wrote: »

https://twitter.com/eircomwholesale/status/601300653827325952

Haha, hate to be the last few people who try and order, there are only 192 usable ports.

ED E did they not start to increase the available ports. I noticed new risers on some of the pre-existing cabs and asked a tech I know what the story was. He said they were to facilitate additional capacity. I thought it had something to so with FTTH.

ED E

PeadarB wrote: »

ED E did they not start to increase the available ports. I noticed new risers on some of the pre-existing cabs and asked a tech I know what the story was. He said they were to facilitate additional capacity. I thought it had something to so with FTTH.

Yeah, but I doubt they'll do it for 1/6 of one cards worth.

jca

ED E wrote: »

Yeah, but I doubt they'll do it for 1/6 of one cards worth.

Surely this applies to fttc not ftth?

skydish79

Listening to business report on rte morning Ireland

Eircom said it would cost €12500 to bring fibre to each one off house in rural Ireland

Would if it possible pay that much to get fibre to their home?

And is it even possible for one home to approach Eircom if they were willing to pay the €12500 while their neighbour wasnt

ItHurtsWhenIP

skydish79 wrote: »

Eircom said it would cost €12500 to bring fibre to each one off house in rural Ireland

Would if it possible pay that much to get fibre to their home?

I know it's a different type of set-up, but the B4RN guys can lay duct and fibre @ £6.86/€9.67 per meter. So Eircom are saying that each house would cost 1,293m B4RN meters. :rolleyes:

mass_debater

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

I know it's a different type of set-up, but the B4RN guys can lay duct and fibre @ £6.86/€9.67 per meter. So Eircom are saying that each house would cost 1,293m B4RN meters. :rolleyes:

BT priced it as something similar (BK will be back with the exact figure, UK£10k iirc). You cannot expect to compare it to a community project run by volunteers with the community on their side.

lucernarian

skydish79 wrote: »

Listening to business report on rte morning Ireland

Eircom said it would cost €12500 to bring fibre to each one off house in rural Ireland

Would if it possible pay that much to get fibre to their home?

And is it even possible for one home to approach Eircom if they were willing to pay the €12500 while their neighbour wasnt

If that were the case, then a €500 million broadband plan wouldn't cover much of the total cost of an FTTH rollout to rural Ireland. What sort of cost per line do Eircom consider to be commercially viable for the rollout of fibre.

yuloni

This post has been deleted.

ED E

Being realistic I see the nbp covering the 60-120 active live exchanges and surrounding areas, it won't hit real ribbon developmnent, at least not phase one.

yuloni

This post has been deleted.

The Cush

skydish79 wrote: »

Listening to business report on rte morning Ireland

Eircom said it would cost €12500 to bring fibre to each one off house in rural Ireland

Would if it possible pay that much to get fibre to their home?

And is it even possible for one home to approach Eircom if they were willing to pay the €12500 while their neighbour wasnt

The CEO of eircom, Richard Moat, was on Morning Ireland last Monday morning discussing the release of their Q3 results.

He said connecting the "most rural homes" (that home on the mountain, that cottage in the valley) to the fibre network would be extremely expensive for them, over €10,000 per home and this is where the NBP subsidy comes in. It would assist in the rollout of fibre to the remaining 30% / 750,000 of 2.3m homes. Only the most rural homes would be estimated to cost over that €10,000 figure.

Mon - http://podcast.rasset.ie/podcasts/audio/2015/0518/20150518_rteradio1-morningireland-750ambusin_c20781502_20781553_232_.mp3
Thur - http://podcast.rasset.ie/podcasts/audio/2015/0521/20150521_rteradio1-morningireland-750ambusin_c20783809_20784031_232_.mp3

ED E

yuloni wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

I worded that poorly.

Villages(Towns) that are small enough to currently have 60 odd phone lines in use have a lot of the time not got NGN (so 1mb or 3mb), no plans for NGA(efibre, ftth) but are still "clustered" somewhat. Its not that exchange is there, its that we've an easily enough service clump that the MBP can throw 5-10 million at and boom, overhauled in a week. That can include FTTH(GPON) but the main trouble is bringing core fibre out to these smaller satellite villages that arent near to a core hub on either eircoms core or ESBs ring.