Well done Minister

theaceofspies

I am no fan of the current Minister but I think he has got this one right

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/coveney-badger-culling-will-be-replaced-by-vaccination-programme-181139/

All wildlife needs to be protected in the interest of biodiversity

trixi2011

theaceofspies wrote: »

I am no fan of the current Minister but I think he has got this one right

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/coveney-badger-culling-will-be-replaced-by-vaccination-programme-181139/

All wildlife needs to be protected in the interest of biodiversity

Hasn't been working to we'll in the UK sofar, price of the vaccination is seriously expensive would end up costing the tax payer a lot of money

Count Mondego

Does the vaccine provide permanent protection for the badger or does it wear off?

trixi2011

Count Mondego wrote: »

Does the vaccine provide permanent protection for the badger or does it wear off?

I don't know much about it but was on a course with some farmers from a tb hot spot in UK and they were discussing how much of a farce the vacation programs were cost hundreds of pounds per animal and tb was increasing in the area rather than reducing

djmc

I think it would be a step forward if its run alongside culling in tb hotspots and vaccinate the rest of the badger population.
But to stop culling badgers before bovine tb is eradicated would be a mistake.

frazzledhome

Complete nonsense from a minister pandering to the electorate. Has been proven not to work in the UK.

Culling works and we have the proof in this area. We lost 75 milking cows here 4 yrs ago and our neighbours were in similar bother.

Cull continues and the money saved by us farmers and the compensation paid out more than compensates for the few culled badgers.

I met the guy doing the snaring and he recons it has helped the general health of the badgers. No TB in cattle no TB in badgers, simples

Capercaillie

Snaring works well for a period of time in a local area. Over time badgers will repopulate the areas and with migrating populations of badgers TB can spread even further. Current vaccine BCG not 100% effective and very expensive to administer. You have to trap and inject every badger. There is no oral vaccine present.
As for Coveney being wildlife friendly is a joke. He has overseen the greatest destruction of Irish wildlife in last year. SFP encouraging farmers to destroy scrub. Most upland areas have been destroyed this spring. Most Hen Harrier breeding areas destroyed by extensive scrub fires in April. Hen Harriers have been eraditaced from large areas. The GLAS scheme was overly complicated to join with minimum payments and payments got for minimal advantage to wildlife/protected habitats.

grassroot1

Capercaillie wrote: »

Snaring works well for a period of time in a local area. Over time badgers will repopulate the areas and with migrating populations of badgers TB can spread even further. Current vaccine BCG not 100% effective and very expensive to administer. You have to trap and inject every badger. There is no oral vaccine present.
As for Coveney being wildlife friendly is a joke. He has overseen the greatest destruction of Irish wildlife in last year. SFP encouraging farmers to destroy scrub. Most upland areas have been destroyed this spring. Most Hen Harrier breeding areas destroyed by extensive scrub fires in April. Hen Harriers have been eraditaced from large areas. The GLAS scheme was overly complicated to join with minimum payments and payments got for minimal advantage to wildlife/protected habitats.

Could not have said it better myself

ganmo

And a Tb programme will never work until deer are brought into the equation

frazzledhome

Capercaillie wrote: »

Snaring works well for a period of time in a local area. Over time badgers will repopulate the areas and with migrating populations of badgers TB can spread even further. Current vaccine BCG not 100% effective and very expensive to administer. You have to trap and inject every badger. There is no oral vaccine present.
As for Coveney being wildlife friendly is a joke. He has overseen the greatest destruction of Irish wildlife in last year. SFP encouraging farmers to destroy scrub. Most upland areas have been destroyed this spring. Most Hen Harrier breeding areas destroyed by extensive scrub fires in April. Hen Harriers have been eraditaced from large areas. The GLAS scheme was overly complicated to join with minimum payments and payments got for minimal advantage to wildlife/protected habitats.

Snaring here for some time and still loads of badgers but none with TB.

mf240

Healthy badgers are supposed to turf out sick ones.


Im in favour of culling where necessary.


Lets face it this is ireland we all know its going to be a fcuk up of an effort.

Connemara Farmer

Haven't heard of TB here for years, and there are loads of badgers in the place.

I wonder how the badger contracts it in the first place. If unhealthy badgers could be removed and healthy ones relocated to that area would the healthy ones become infected through some environmental factor or would they help defend that area from TB by keeping the territory?

Capercaillie

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

Haven't heard of TB here for years, and there are loads of badgers in the place.

I wonder how the badger contracts it in the first place. If unhealthy badgers could be removed and healthy ones relocated to that area would the healthy ones become infected through some environmental factor or would they help defend that area from TB by keeping the territory?

There is no cost effective way of detecting whether a badger has TB or not. DAFM only know from post mortem on Badger whether it has TB or not.

Connemara Farmer

Capercaillie wrote: »

There is no cost effective way of detecting whether a badger has TB or not. DAFM only know from post mortem on Badger whether it has TB or not.

Oh well, tough luck for brock in that case.

bogman_bass

The problem with culling is that it is only 100% effective if you ckill ll he badgers. I don't hink we want o see that either. If vaccinations work I'm all for it

trixi2011

Just been reading an article in the farm weekly about the vacation program for badgers in Wales . It's costing 708 pound to vacinate each badger ,