New drug laws in Ireland

BogMonkey

If I'm not mistaken, that accidental ban of drugs like ketamine and MDMA occured after an unconstitutional law blanket banning everything considered psychoactive was struck down. Is that correct? What are the current drug laws now then, is there a list like they have in most countries that states that only substances that appear on the list are banned?

Carawaystick

I think any thing that's a psychoactive substance and not generally used as a food/drink/nicotine is banned.
Along with a list of certain scheduled drugs.

cobhguy28

BogMonkey wrote: »

If I'm not mistaken, that accidental ban of drugs like ketamine and MDMA occured after an unconstitutional law blanket banning everything considered psychoactive was struck down. Is that correct? What are the current drug laws now then, is there a list like they have in most countries that states that only substances that appear on the list are banned?

Yes you are mistaken. The court said it was unconstitutional for the minister to add new drugs to the list because the legislation granted him too much power without the propper policys in place. it was an unconstitutional delegating of power. New legislation was pass fixing it stright away.

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Yes there are lists.

Heres the original 1977 list:

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1977/en/act/pub/0012/sched1.html

And here's the new 2015 list:

http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2015/2115/b2115d.pdf

jellykelly

hi all,a friend of mine was recently caught in possesion of a small amount of one of the newly banned substances covered by the amendment in 2015,it was 5 grams of a unknown headshop powder which after gardai analysis came back as "pyrrolidinovalerophenone also known as pvp",upon researching this chemical i found it to be actually called alpha-pyrrolidnovalerphenone and another few complete different names such as alpha-pvp, apvp,prolitanone,o-2387 but not just the first name mentioned by itself,the chemical itself is not named on the banned list but is included because its got similar chemical structure to pyrovalerone which is included in the list,does any one know if the fact its not named correctly have any legal implications in the case as its a fairly important aspect,the name pvp also refers to a chemical thats legal and also chemically similar thats used in glues,cosmetics and various other applications so both descriptions on the analysis are inaccurate,thanks

ohnonotgmail

The act lists several drugs classified into schedules. But it does not solely apply to the drugs listed. It also applies to certain derivatives of the drugs listed. The PDF linked to earlier goes into more chemistry than i care to. Also, how can you be sure that the garda analysis is incorrect? Of course if you are certain they are correct and that the actual substance is not covered by the 2015 act then your friend will be able to get the substance analysed privately at their own expense to determine this.

Victor

jellykelly wrote: »

hi all,a friend of mine was recently caught in possesion of a small amount of one of the newly banned substances covered by the amendment in 2015,it was 5 grams of a unknown headshop powder which after gardai analysis came back as "pyrrolidinovalerophenone also known as pvp",upon researching this chemical i found it to be actually called alpha-pyrrolidnovalerphenone and another few complete different names such as alpha-pvp, apvp,prolitanone,o-2387 but not just the first name mentioned by itself,the chemical itself is not named on the banned list but is included because its got similar chemical structure to pyrovalerone which is included in the list,does any one know if the fact its not named correctly have any legal implications in the case as its a fairly important aspect,the name pvp also refers to a chemical thats legal and also chemically similar thats used in glues,cosmetics and various other applications so both descriptions on the analysis are inaccurate,thanks

Someone needs a solicitor.

The full rules set out in the acts and regulations need to be read, not just the schedules.