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Irish Amateur Open Championship 2015

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    Some weather for it holy Christ!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Golfgorfield


    Standard weather for the tournament, i gave up playing in it, just got sick of gale force wind and rain every single year.

    Hard to call who will have a chance as it'll be a lottery, but Cormac Sharvin will get a few of my euros.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭TrapperChamonix


    A great chance to see stars of the future.

    Some ex winners

    Louis Oosthuizen
    P Harrington

    If weather good - I'll be down at some stage.

    Can be harsh conditions down there have full gear.

    https://www.golfnet.ie/Events/GUI/Draw%20and%20Waiting%20List%20-%20Irish%20Amateur%20Open.pdf



    Also Richie Ramsey, Michael Howey,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭Johnny_Fontane


    Watched Kevin Leblanc a few weeks back....off +2 in the island. Effortless..... I know there are lots of these quality golfers around, but he's only 17. ~Might put a few quid on him to win this!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Free Hat


    I've seen a good few amateurs play at Royal Dublin over the last few years. Standouts for me were Gavin Moynihan and Rhys Pugh. Paul Dunne was impressive also.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Well thank feck they are not facing the wind that was there today - over 10 m/s - 3 club wind - 5 iron flat out 155 yards. And that is not the unusual down there.

    But the great news is - it is remarkably good weather over the next few days

    http://www.yr.no/place/ireland/leinster/north%20bull%20island/long.html

    Should see plenty of under par rounds.

    Anyone know any top non Irish player playing. Guy lads are watching ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭AGC


    Well thank feck they are not facing the wind that was there today - over 10 m/s - 3 club wind - 5 iron flat out 155 yards. And that is not the unusual down there.

    But the great news is - it is remarkably good weather over the next few days

    http://www.yr.no/place/ireland/leinster/north%20bull%20island/long.html

    Should see plenty of under par rounds.

    Anyone know any top non Irish player playing. Guy lads are watching ?

    Marco Penge, out with last years winner and Gavin Moynihan is a good group to follow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Yes followed that group AGC.

    Very good scoring conditions and great scoring.

    Could have been a very low score out there (-6 even)

    Looks like wind has picked up a little for afternoon - Moynihan finished very strong - with a fantastic approach for eagle on 14.

    Young Penge looks an interesting one - only one thing on his mind (pro game ) - very aggressive. Didn't pay off today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Anybody go and watch today.

    Went down to watch and wouldn't even go out in it.

    Crazy stuff and almost cruel to play golf in that.

    Still remarkable scores - with css at 76 - there was still 13 level or under.
    The earlier starters had it a little easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Well what a day

    https://www.golfnet.ie/news/gui/268/LIVE%20-%20Irish%20Amateur%20-%20Super%2065%20for%20Moynihan

    They - say that round is a course record - I'm surprised at that. But felt after watching him on Thursday - he had a very low one in him if he could hole a few.

    I had the pleasure of following young Kevin LeBlanc - Jack Hume and Welsh Player, Evan Griffith (Welsh Amateur Champion).

    Perfect Links conditions - with enough wind to make you think - but not make you out of reach on holes.

    Griffith and Hume were hitting solid shots all the way out but the putters were cold - After having an extraordinary round of 70 yesterday , I was interested to see Hume play , fantastic ball control . But on 8 he had a championship defining moment. From 135 yards or so out, he hit a club about 30 feet short - and then had a 4 putt from there , it wasn't an easy first putt - but the 3 after were soul destroying , his energy was gone from then on. It is a hard hard game. We have all been there - well not at that level , but we all know how you can feel.

    Young Griffith is another interesting one - pulling a rented trolley - "wants to do it all himself" - his Dad told me. You could see he is full of energy and likes fast play.
    Another player that is full time at golf from a young age and doing gym work and all - it is all becoming too evident - these guys are what you call "professional amateurs".

    It is a harsh environment - and watching amateur golf is new to me. You are on display to serious guys into their golf - ex champions - scratch players and your only as good as your last mistake at times.

    And onto Kevin - what a player - they say there is a time a boy turns into a man , and perhaps today and this weekend is that. People have been taking about this kid since he was a kid. Remarkably tall flexible and athletic (as they all are) - He has only turned 17 (just ridiculous) , fantastic ball flight - holds perfect in the air with only slight deviation by intended shape. LeBlanc had birdie efforts on most of the front nine - it could have been an astonishing low round. He missed a few including his only blemish on 12 - in that 6 to 8 foot range.

    He missed an easy birdie on 14 - came very close on 15 - easy one missed on 16.

    You had to feel for him to be only -2 standing on 17th tee. His approach on 17 put him off left hand side of green in an 8 foot hollow - I have been mostly impressed with the skill these lads have with wedge, the high open loft they use , the aggressive and high swing speed they will use, bump and runs are not that popular at all. They are too good for that. I was looking at the shot thinking - that lad must have been in that spot a 1000 times in The Island - as there are so many run offs like that below green - the wind was in his face - and bang into the hole . Every one around green said , you know what, he deserved that today.

    Then onto 18 - with all the top Amateurs looking on, GUI, Scottish, English Golf Union representatives looking on, a gallery on the old clubhouse balcony - he hit another one to about 5 feet, amazing shot with OB right , drain right. Holed that to a big applause.

    Fantastic stuff.

    As I was leaving - I was thinking it will be hard for the junior to overhaul the more senior experienced ex champion.

    Speaking to a few of the lads that followed LeBlanc - they reminded me, that it was 2 Island players in the final group on the final day.

    I let them have their deserved moment .

    But - said, in a joking way - But , "they are not really Island players are they ;) ".

    They got the joke - but I think it takes years to get to know the strange world of top amateur golf.


    I went off and played 6 after, in 2 over - you see, how shocking you are at this game when you see that stuff . :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Free Hat


    Another Amateur Open win for Moynihan. I expect big things from him in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭Dolph Starbeam


    Free Hat wrote: »
    Another Amateur Open win for Moynihan. I expect big things from him in the future.

    He looks very good, he was brilliant in the last Walker Cup, I'm going to it this year so hopefully he has another good one.

    I requested odds off PP to see what I could get on him to win the Open Championship before 2025 and all they would give me was 25/1.

    Also nice to see a former club mate in Stuart Grehan finish strongly to finish T5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Between work and my own golf - didn't get down.

    Seemed a forgone conclusion -

    https://www.golfnet.ie/news/gui/269/Moynihan%20wins%20the%20Irish%20Amateur

    I note that CSS was 76 (+4).

    Anyone down there ?

    What will it take for him to have a most successful Irish amateur career before pro ?

    He is going pro after Walker Cup - I hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭aarymark


    do players get .1s or cuts for their performances in these tournaments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    aarymark wrote: »
    do players get .1s or cuts for their performances in these tournaments

    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭aarymark


    so the winner gets cut1.8?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    aarymark wrote: »
    so the winner gets cut1.8?

    Did you look up all days.

    Today - was 0.2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭aarymark


    CSS: Rd 1 = 75; Rd 2 = 76; Rd 3 = 75; Rd 4 = 76

    284: Gavin Moynihan (The Island) 69 76 65 74
    - See more at: https://www.golfnet.ie/news/gui/269/Moynihan%20wins%20the%20Irish%20Amateur#sthash.hkW9xKPr.dpuf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,566 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Did you look up all days.

    Today - was 0.2.

    Pretty sure he's off +3 or +4 no? So nett 77 or 78 today...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    fullstop wrote: »
    Pretty sure he's off +3 or +4 no? So nett 77 or 78 today...

    Lol - yes , this + stuff is new to me.

    He is + 4.

    So he got a cut on saturday of 0.6 ?

    Anyway - not sure - but an interesting area.

    Someone should have grabbed Moynihan for the Atlantic Coast Challenge. Bandit :p

    Would be interesting to hear his exact handicap after this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭aarymark


    forgot about plus part of his handicap whole different game these guys are playing )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭kerosene


    Cormac Sharvin must feel hard done by not to get an invite to the Irish Open at Royal Co Down after a second place last week in the lytham open and another second at the weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭shabalala


    Invites were handed out over a month ago, he wasn't on the radar that time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭kerosene


    under the radar. He was named on a 20 man short list for the walker cup in january.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭shabalala


    kerosene wrote: »
    under the radar. He was named on a 20 man short list for the walker cup in january.


    Under the radar for an invite, the top 3 available Irish got invited, hes prob 5th in ranking of irish players.

    Moynihan,
    Hurley,
    Dunne,
    Hume, Would all be looked at as being ahead of him at the time of the invites being given out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭TrapperChamonix


    Lol - yes , this + stuff is new to me.

    He is + 4.

    So he got a cut on saturday of 0.6 ?

    Anyway - not sure - but an interesting area.

    Someone should have grabbed Moynihan for the Atlantic Coast Challenge. Bandit :p

    Would be interesting to hear his exact handicap after this.

    5.0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    5.0

    Was thinking it would be near that. Fantastic stuff.

    Must be near Mcilroy's soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭Dolph Starbeam


    Was thinking it would be near that. Fantastic stuff.

    Must be near Mcilroy's soon.

    It's mind boggling how they can actually play to this kind of handicap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    YayaBanana wrote: »
    It's mind boggling how they can actually play to this kind of handicap.

    In fact - think about it - a 67 , go out and get a 67. :D

    On The Island,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭shabalala


    In fact - think about it - a 67 , go out and get a 67. :D

    On The Island,


    You'll find he prob plays little or no competitive golf there, so his hcap isn't relative to his home course.

    These guys play high level tournaments with all similar hcaps where css is a little higher and is always a true reflection of the field.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭TrapperChamonix


    In fact - think about it - a 67 , go out and get a 67. :D

    On The Island,

    I seem to recall him posting a 68 (Net 72) in a club competition and being beaten by someone with a 16H/C. All fair and above board but some how it still seems wrong.
    I think his lowest score (outside of competition) in The Island was a 62.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭shabalala


    I seem to recall him posting a 68 (Net 72) in a club competition and being beaten by someone with a 16H/C. All fair and above board but some how it still seems wrong.
    I think his lowest score (outside of competition) in The Island was a 62.


    Of course but im saying the theory of "hes a +5 in the island" never applies for elite players, they don't play the singles comps every single week, if ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭TrapperChamonix


    shabalala wrote: »
    Of course but im saying the theory of "hes a +5 in the island" never applies for elite players, they don't play the singles comps every single week, if ever.

    I wasn't contradicting you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭pistol_75


    I think they may also receive performance related cuts based on winning big events. Could be wrong but a mate of mine won this a few years ago and I think there was something then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭shabalala


    pistol_75 wrote: »
    I think they may also receive performance related cuts based on winning big events. Could be wrong but a mate of mine won this a few years ago and I think there was something then.


    Never ever did this happen, cuts are on scores only in cat1.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2 imchasingyou


    I believe moynahan hume sharvin & co are all turning pro September ??????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Golfgorfield


    I believe moynahan hume sharvin & co are all turning pro September ??????


    As far as i know the list is longer than that.

    Moynihan
    Hume
    Hurley
    Sharvin
    Dunne
    McElroy
    Bridges
    Campbell
    are all turning pro at the end of the season, pretty big bunch but there is some serious talent there so id expect big things from some of that group.
    Were kind of due another 1 or 2 tour players if that makes sense?

    Hurley proved at last years Irish open he has the game. And id be surprised if the 1st 5 on that list don't all make the walker cup team this year.


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