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Cannot Lose Weight

  • 05-05-2015 10:41am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41


    Hi All,
    I'm a 31 year old male, i've been 19st 6lb for the past year. I've done slimming world, Weight Watchers, and several other diets and not lost a thing. I have IBS and constant issues with my stomach. Nothing I seem to do works.
    I was tested for thyroid issues - none
    Then tested for Coeliac - no

    I seem to have an intolerance to wheat, I get cramps after eating it. But even after giving it up and sticking to a healthy diet, still nothing.

    My weight can fluctuate up or down by 6lb each day, but at the end of the day I end up back at the start. I thought it may be water retention and took tablets for this but nope, still the same.

    Please has anyone got any suggestions? It's really getting me down.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Impossible to say without seeing a detailed diary of what you eat and how much you exercise. A lot of people think they have a healthy diet but in reality still clock up the calories by either not being honest with themselves about what they are eating or eating too much even if the food is "healthy".

    At that weight you need a deficit not just a healthy diet. Personally I'd target around 2000 calories per day and supplement it with exercise. You can eat very well at 2000 calories per day if you make good choices and cut out the crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    Eat less calories. It really is that simple.

    Of course, you probably don't know the amount of calories you currently take in, so:
    • buy a kitchen scales
    • start weighing everything you eat
    • read the nutritional information on the pack
    • track what you eat using MyFitnessPal

    Then start reducing that calorie amount

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 monkeynuts111


    I have done honest calorie counting aswell, but no change. I have a kitchen scales. But I am going to do it again. I am so desperate to lose weight as it's had a nasty effect on my physical and mental health.
    I don't eat breakfast, tends to be a coffee instead, should this be something I do? If anything, I don't eat enough, sometimes just 1 meal a day.

    Trying to be as honest as I can here, with you and myself.

    An example of my daily food diary would be:

    Breakfast: Coffee with Low Fat Milk
    Lunch: 4 Rice Cakes with 4 slices of Supervalu German Salami/2 slices l/f cheese
    Dinner: 1 Potato, mixed green and white veg, 1 small piece of pork/chicken/steak

    I do not snack at ALL in between. Is there anything sticking out as being a massive error?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    So you're eating less than 1000 kcals per day? Or thereabouts?

    How long have you been doing that?


  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    Add up the calories of everything you posted there.

    Looks like malnourishment to me if the portions are honest. 600 calories?

    How long have you been starving yourself like this. While this is extremely unhealthy you should still be losing massive amounts of weight if this is all you eat.

    Do you eat like this at the weekend? Do you drink? Do you workout?

    There are two scenarios,
    A) you have down regulated your metabolism so much that you cannot lose weight on the amount of calories you are eating. I still find it hard to believe you would not lose weight on those calories though.

    B) you are massively under reporting your eating (very common) And you are not including your weekend snacking / binging / drinking and the amount of calories you are eating is significantly higher.

    Either way you are in a really unhealthy place right now. You should be eating closer to 1800-2500 calories from mostly real unprocessed foods and you should be walking or working out 3-4 times a week.

    Do what the previous poster said and track and weigh everything for 2 weeks. Everything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Trying to be as honest as I can here, with you and myself.

    An example of my daily food diary would be:

    Breakfast: Coffee with Low Fat Milk
    Lunch: 4 Rice Cakes with 4 slices of Supervalu German Salami/2 slices l/f cheese
    Dinner: 1 Potato, mixed green and white veg, 1 small piece of pork/chicken/steak

    I do not snack at ALL in between. Is there anything sticking out as being a massive error?
    You're missing something. You have to be. As conzy says, there is no way the above is all you eat and you don't lose weight. Unless someone is injecting lard into your mouth as you sleep, you're calculating something wrong.

    What about drinks? Milk? Coke? Water?

    List everything that enters or leaves your mouth in a given day. Today is as good as any. Even that packet of mints you keep on the desk in work, make a list of absolutely everything you consume, regardless of calorific content.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    OP
    Stop stressing/focusing on calories it's clearly not working for you.

    Try to do the following
    * improve sleep, pretty strong co relation between poor sleep and obesity.
    http://www.aclai.ie/blog/680/sleep-deep-perform-better-13-steps-to-a-super-deep-sleep-2/
    * Reduce stress, yoga, meditation, exercise, plan your life better etc etc whatever works for you
    * Find a sport/activity you enjoy especially with a social aspect. Use activity to bust stress rather than to balance, what for you is a pretty useless energy in/out equation
    * You have stomach/IBS issues. Get to bottom of it by getting expert help whether it's food/stress/relationship based
    * Food is for nourishment. Stop fearing it. Eat whole foods rich in nutrients and if some foods cause you issue don't eat them ever.
    * Take your time, stop putting pressure on yourself and throw out that weighing scales
    * Best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 monkeynuts111


    So you're eating less than 1000 kcals per day? Or thereabouts?

    How long have you been doing that?

    For several months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Triangla


    I have done honest calorie counting aswell, but no change. I have a kitchen scales. But I am going to do it again. I am so desperate to lose weight as it's had a nasty effect on my physical and mental health.
    I don't eat breakfast, tends to be a coffee instead, should this be something I do? If anything, I don't eat enough, sometimes just 1 meal a day.

    Trying to be as honest as I can here, with you and myself.

    An example of my daily food diary would be:

    Breakfast: Coffee with Low Fat Milk
    Lunch: 4 Rice Cakes with 4 slices of Supervalu German Salami/2 slices l/f cheese
    Dinner: 1 Potato, mixed green and white veg, 1 small piece of pork/chicken/steak

    I do not snack at ALL in between. Is there anything sticking out as being a massive error?

    Thanks

    Hi monkeynuts,

    Firstly, best of luck with the weight loss.

    Secondly, that typical day of food is shockingly bad.

    You need to firstly ensure you are in calorie deficit for the day. Start with 2500 cals a day and shave off 100 cals to get into deficit.

    For breakfast try scrambled eggs with some tomato relish and spinach.

    For lunch try some chicken with salad leaves and possibly a baked potato. Hot or cold. Make sure to have loads of leaves. If you like spicy food get something like Franks hot sauce which has very little cals. If you don't like spicy food look for a very low calorie mild nando sauce or a drizzle of soy sauce.

    For snacking try carrot sticks and celery sticks. Also drink at least 3l of water a day. Even get a big hug or bottle at work and put a green tea bag in for flavour.

    For dinner try some chicken or pork. Stir fry in table spoon of olive oil. Chop half a bell bell, half a courgette, a hand full of green beans and some mange tout. Put in covered bowl with 250 ml of water and microwave for 3 mins. Lob in with stir fried chicken/pork. Microwave half a pack of microwave rice and lob that in too.

    Maybe supplement with a smoothie of Alpro coconut milk, raw spinach, 50g of frozen pineapple and 50g of frozen blueberries.

    Weigh everything and use an app like myfitness pal for calories count to ensure total is less than 2400 cals.

    In week 2 cut back to 2300 cals and so on until you hit 2000 cals. Your body will keep adjusting to lower calories so you need a stepped approach. 3500 cals equals a pound of fat. So down 500 cals a day will equate to a pound of fat loss a week.

    Start walking or running every day and increase this slightly every week also as your calories go down.

    This is a suggested approach but all food should be made by you. Don't eat nothing or rubbish. See weight loss as a change in eating habit. Not a temporary restriction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    What height are you?

    Can you list all activities you do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 monkeynuts111


    conzy wrote: »
    Add up the calories of everything you posted there.

    Looks like malnourishment to me if the portions are honest. 600 calories?

    How long have you been starving yourself like this. While this is extremely unhealthy you should still be losing massive amounts of weight if this is all you eat.

    Do you eat like this at the weekend? Do you drink? Do you workout?

    There are two scenarios,
    A) you have down regulated your metabolism so much that you cannot lose weight on the amount of calories you are eating. I still find it hard to believe you would not lose weight on those calories though.

    B) you are massively under reporting your eating (very common) And you are not including your weekend snacking / binging / drinking and the amount of calories you are eating is significantly higher.

    Either way you are in a really unhealthy place right now. You should be eating closer to 1800-2500 calories from mostly real unprocessed foods and you should be walking or working out 3-4 times a week.

    Do what the previous poster said and track and weigh everything for 2 weeks. Everything.


    Thank you for this, I am going to do exactly this for the next 2 weeks and see how I get on. I have not been tracking and I must do this. I don't binge, but I have a few beers at the weekend, a long way from binge drinking or eating, but again, I haven't been tracking this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 monkeynuts111


    seamus wrote: »
    You're missing something. You have to be. As conzy says, there is no way the above is all you eat and you don't lose weight. Unless someone is injecting lard into your mouth as you sleep, you're calculating something wrong.

    What about drinks? Milk? Coke? Water?

    List everything that enters or leaves your mouth in a given day. Today is as good as any. Even that packet of mints you keep on the desk in work, make a list of absolutely everything you consume, regardless of calorific content.

    Thank you Seamus, I am starting right away on this. Today so far I've had 4 rice cakes, 2 slices of lf cheese (pre sliced), and 4 slices of salami.
    Had 2 coffees this morning, both with a tiny splash of low fat milk.
    I've also had a "Detox" herbal tea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 monkeynuts111


    Thank you everyone, the big take away is that I must not be taking weekends into account, and that I need to track absolutely everything, regardless. I am starting straight away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 470 ✭✭moonlighting


    Someone here posted up a good powerpoint presintation and where most people go wrong is at the weekends eating and drinking way more than monday to friday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    If you can let me know your height an d activities you do I can provide roughly the number of calories required to maintain and lose weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭Fieldsman


    I'd suggest start walking then mix it with running. It worked for me and all the people I know in that sport by the looks of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    conzy wrote: »
    There are two scenarios,
    A) you have down regulated your metabolism so much that you cannot lose weight on the amount of calories you are eating. I still find it hard to believe you would not lose weight on those calories though.

    He'd still be losing a pile of weight though. The starvation response whereby your metabolism drops drastically only occurs when your fat reserves are gone and your body cannibalises itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Myfitness pal is a great sort term way to make sure everything is tracked. A few pints and a few hot chicken rolls at the weekend and the daily average creeps up very very quickly.

    You can eat really well and still have a deficit. Eggs, vegetables, good meat, fish, wholefoods... It actually becomes quite enjoyable and you'll feel great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭tughfc


    I found the best way to lose weight was cut out all sorts of carbs and general (crap foods). Drink green tea. Loads of water as well. Dinner for me is plate of veg and standard amount of protein. I cook extra to take into work the next day.

    I walk in and out of work everyday and maybe try to get 2-3 runs in a week (20-30 mins approx). Isnt a long run but gets the heart beat going and makes you feel far better about yourself, plus helps you get a good night sleep.

    Also i have one cheat meal a weekend. Nice to have something to look forward to.

    Once you get into a habit or routine it all becomes easier. Again this is what worked for me, each persons body is different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭jjC123


    OP, if it was financially viable for you, I'd make even just one appointment with a good GP or dietitian and ask them to give you a tailored weight loss plan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    OP, losing weight is easy. Don't sweat it! You seem overly concerned about this and it's pushing you to do things that are unhealthy. I was 18 stone or thereabouts a couple of years ago. Nowadays I fluctuate between 13.5 - 14 stone depending on whether i've been on holiday etc. This is how I did it:

    Downloaded My Fitness Pal. Set it to "One lb per week". Slow and steady is the way to go.

    Realised that I could actually eat a whole load whilst "on a diet". Recording your food through MPF really is an eye-opener in that regard. EAT BREAKFAST!

    Started walking in the evening. A good hour walk will burn 300 - 350 cals. Listen to a good podcast and you're grand. Especially with the nice summer evenings coming about.

    Made ONE small change a week to my diet. Simple stuff. For example, I was having Corn Flakes for breakfast every morning. Changing from cereal was the long term goal but I started with switching to low fat milk. Week 2, I stopped drinking soft drinks and switched to water + cordial. Week 3, I switched from white bread to brown bread. Small insignificant changes which build up over time (Now I never drink soft drinks and I have a breakfast smoothie rather than cereal).

    It was really as easy as that. At the end of week 1 when I realised I had been able to eat a lot more than I thought I would due to my calorie goal and i'd still lost that one pound, it was a great motivator. I started doing it every week. When I wanted to treat myself, i'd decide that rather than eat the crisps that were in the press, i'd walk to the shop and buy myself the crisps. I'd walk to a shop far away. 20 mins there, buy the crisps, 20 mins back. Burn 200 cals and the crisps are only 200 themselves (or something).

    I'm 14 stone at the moment. I want to be 13.5. I know that I will be 13.5 in 6-7 weeks because I know how to do it. I walk to work (About an hour = 300 - 350 cals). Take a walk on my lunch break. Walk home from work. If I can't do any of these I walk in the evening. All the while making sure that i'm eating well but not going over my calories. Honestly OP, it's not as hard as the diet industry will have you believe. Make it a long term goal. Doing things drastically will only make you fail.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    Totally omitting a meal is a very bad idea, easpecially breakfast as then you are going 12+ hours without anything.

    Eat a breakfast. Try porridge made on water. It is healthy, very filling and gives a steady release of energy through the morning.

    I'd omit the beers. Beer has no place in a weight loss plan. Drinking beer is just a habit. Go out a few times without drinking beer and you will quikcly get into that habit too just like I did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭Betty Bloggs


    Weigh everything, I mean EVERYTHING including liquids.

    I've just started tracking calories and was shocked at the calories in some things.

    Like you I seem to eat way less than most slimmer people I know, usually just one large main meal, no breakfast or lunch most of the time. I've realised a lot of calories I was consuming though were coming from the liquids I drank. I drank lots of very sugary tea with 100ml full fat milk. Worked out I was taking between 100-145 calories for every cup of tea I drank!

    30g of peanuts is just a handful for me and I have tiny hands- nearly 200 calories per tiny handful! (182 to be precise)

    Pasta and Rice portions - the calories per portion on the back of packet are a LOT smaller portions than what you would estimate them to be. Weigh them to see. Same with portions of cereal given, usually a much smaller bowl than what most people would eat.

    Bread/wraps - weigh them before and after adding butter or mayo so you can see how many grams of butter or whatever you have used so you can determine how many extra calories you used. It can be a lot more than you would think sometimes.

    If you fry something, how many calories in the tablespoon or so of oil that was used, how much do you estimate has been absorbed into the food.

    210 calories in one pint of cider, 239 calories one pint of Heineken!

    168 calories in just 2 regular Denny sausages and that's if you don't fry them.

    Sometimes I can't find something in fitness pal calorie database, but it's well worth doing some simple maths yourself from packet to work out how many calories you just ate in your portion. (after you've weighed it)

    How thick are your slices of salami, how many grams do they weigh? My slices of white pudding had more calories than I realised.

    How much is a splash of milk? How many ml?

    It's tricky measuring everything at first, but you get into the swing of it soon and it really opens your eyes! I recommend a salter kitchen weighing scale that measures grams, mls, and fl oz.

    You can also buy measuring things in Dealz for 1.50 that has all the various spoon measurements, and cup measurements (1/4 cup, 1/3 cup) etc that the americans use. Can help when you are looking up calorie contents online. :)

    Also want to add that drinking water and eating something with fibre such as an apple helps keep me fuller or eat less of a bigger main meal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    An alternative to weighing everything is just to eat what you are currently eating, just with smaller portion sizes. Its pretty straight forward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    An alternative to weighing everything is just to eat what you are currently eating, just with smaller portion sizes. Its pretty straight forward.

    And just guess? Why guess when you can do it by the numbers. When you say "smaller portions", what does that mean? How much smaller? 50%? 25%? He needs to know how many calories he can consume and how many he's eating in order to lose weight. He can of course do what you suggest at the same time, but he needs to quantify what exactly "less" means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    And just guess? Why guess when you can do it by the numbers. When you say "smaller portions", what does that mean? How much smaller? 50%? 25%? He needs to know how many calories he can consume and how many he's eating in order to lose weight. He can of course do what you suggest at the same time, but he needs to quantify what exactly "less" means.

    Why? Because it very very very easy. Smaller just means smaller. Not losing weight? Cut the portion size again. No measuring, no wondering what's in this unlabelled food. By far the easiest way to drop weight is simply to eat less. Instead of 2 spuds with your chicken and veg have just the one, see how that works for you.

    Counting calories is far superior in terms of getting macros right etc but so many people simply do not count them properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Why? Because it very very very easy. Smaller just means smaller. Not losing weight? Cut the portion size again. No measuring, no wondering what's in this unlabelled food. By far the easiest way to drop weight is simply to eat less. Instead of 2 spuds with your chicken and veg have just the one, see how that works for you.

    Counting calories is far superior in terms of getting macros right etc but so many people simply do not count them properly.

    You're right. But he can do what you're saying, whilst also counting the calories he's consuming. Just saying "smaller" is no good. You could say "smaller" is half. But half is no good to him if he's already been consuming 6000 calories a day. It's better to get a good understanding of what it is you're eating and how many calories are in things. Because at the edn of the day, the only way he's going to lose the weight is calories in v calories out. My way he knows what the calories are, your way he's guessing. We're doing the same thing though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    Why? Because it very very very easy. Smaller just means smaller. Not losing weight? Cut the portion size again. No measuring, no wondering what's in this unlabelled food. By far the easiest way to drop weight is simply to eat less. Instead of 2 spuds with your chicken and veg have just the one, see how that works for you.

    Counting calories is far superior in terms of getting macros right etc but so many people simply do not count them properly.

    Measuring by eye is way too subjective IMO, people use different bowls or plates on different days. No two chicken fillets are the same size, one spud could be twice the size of another from the same bag.

    My advice would be to use the scales for a few weeks along with MyFitnessPal. After a while if you're losing weight and confident in your own ability to judge portions you could go without using the scales for every meal and just use it occasionally to make sure your judgement hasn't drifted out of calibration.

    For times when you can't use a scales, like in the office canteen, try to use a specific scoop/cup/bowl that you have weighed previously so you know it'll be consistent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    You're right. But he can do what you're saying, whilst also counting the calories he's consuming. Just saying "smaller" is no good. You could say "smaller" is half. But half is no good to him if he's already been consuming 6000 calories a day. It's better to get a good understanding of what it is you're eating and how many calories are in things. Because at the edn of the day, the only way he's going to lose the weight is calories in v calories out. My way he knows what the calories are, your way he's guessing. We're doing the same thing though.

    There is more than one way to skin a cat alright but you are missing the point. Smaller is good enough, and if it isnt you go smaller again. Thats weight loss in a nutshell. Ideally i would count calories, get macros correct and do appropriate strength work to get in better shape if i were teh OP. However, if i was simply looking todrop weight then halving portion sizes on main meals, or just dropping biscuits (for example) is a very simple and relatively successful method.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    hardCopy wrote: »
    Measuring by eye is way too subjective IMO, people use different bowls or plates on different days. No two chicken fillets are the same size, one spud could be twice the size of another from the same bag.

    Chicken fillets from the same butcher tend to be fairly consistent actually.

    Use the same plate, mash your spuds and use the same spoon for portions :) At 19 stone i would suspect that some simple stuff like that would have a decent effect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 tishia05


    Do you exercise?
    when you past certain age it gets hard to loose weight by just watching what you eat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭MuchoLoco


    Some amazing information for the OP you guys rock!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    Drink green tea instead of regular black tea. It helps to upregulate your metabolism so should help to burn off a little extra fat. IIRC it is also an appetite suppressant so it is a double edged sword.


    Something else I heard is that many toxins are fat soluble so when you metabolise a lot of stored fat the level of toxins in your blood jumps. So maybe drink plenty of water too to try to keep any bad things flushed out. Very technical I know :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    The OP clearly doesn't need an appetite suppressant.

    OP, wise up, eat more, eat better, get some exercise. Starving yourself is not a solution, let alone sustainable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 monkeynuts111


    jjC123 wrote: »
    OP, if it was financially viable for you, I'd make even just one appointment with a good GP or dietitian and ask them to give you a tailored weight loss plan.


    Yes I did both, the dietitian turned out to be affiliated with a low GI Diet Company. The doctor recommended me to someone who I can almost certainly say wasn't a "nutritionist" or a dietitian. She didn't seem to know what she was talking about, even me with my limited knowledge could tell that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 monkeynuts111


    He'd still be losing a pile of weight though. The starvation response whereby your metabolism drops drastically only occurs when your fat reserves are gone and your body cannibalises itself.

    Yes I would have thought so as well, I tried the Dukan diet with some friends. It worked for all of them, but I stayed the same, eating and drinking the exact same as them. Sounds like I'm making excuses, but this is genuinely the case. That's what made me think it might be thyroid.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    Your situation sounds very odd dude. Maybe you should see another GP or nutritionist to get a second opinion. If your diet is as you say it is, there is something weird going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Might be worth waiting and seeing how tracking everything accurately over the course of 2-3 weeks works.

    The OP even said he wasn't taking weekends into account and that's where most people do the damage.

    Then they'll have a better idea of the next step.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    Well yeah, that does sound like classic hypothyroidism, going on the same program and all around you are making huge losses and you stay the same. I'd say getting checked again to make sure would be a good idea just to definitively rule it out. I'd be getting the full T4 & T3 test in addition to TSH in order to get a full picture of thyroid function.
    Getting tested for diabetes might be no harm either.

    Do you have any other symptoms that might point toward a thyroid problem? Thinning hair and eyebrows, chronic fatigue, dry skin, feeling the cold more, constipation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭bullvine


    Are you consuming any booze whatsoever?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 monkeynuts111


    Thank you all so much. One of the major issues is that I have IBS and Acid Reflux, so I have to be careful about what I eat. I am almost certainly intolerant to wheat as well.

    I do need to exercise, as I don't get very much at all. I find it hard to push my ass out the door and go for a walk. Need that kick up the hole.

    As a side note, just to give a bit of evidence in my defense. Two years ago, I won a place on a local version of "The Biggest Loser", I worked with a nutritionist, a personal trainer, and followed it 100% for 3 months. At the end of it, I was the same weight as when I started. They were baffled by this, and just chose to exclude announcing my results at the end of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 monkeynuts111


    Well yeah, that does sound like classic hypothyroidism, going on the same program and all around you are making huge losses and you stay the same. I'd say getting checked again to make sure would be a good idea just to definitively rule it out. I'd be getting the full T4 & T3 test in addition to TSH in order to get a full picture of thyroid function.
    Getting tested for diabetes might be no harm either.

    Do you have any other symptoms that might point toward a thyroid problem? Thinning hair and eyebrows, chronic fatigue, dry skin, feeling the cold more, constipation?


    Been checked for it and I'm borderline, so it won't be treated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Thank you all so much. One of the major issues is that I have IBS and Acid Reflux, so I have to be careful about what I eat. I am almost certainly intolerant to wheat as well.

    I do need to exercise, as I don't get very much at all. I find it hard to push my ass out the door and go for a walk. Need that kick up the hole.

    As a side note, just to give a bit of evidence in my defense. Two years ago, I won a place on a local version of "The Biggest Loser", I worked with a nutritionist, a personal trainer, and followed it 100% for 3 months. At the end of it, I was the same weight as when I started. They were baffled by this, and just chose to exclude announcing my results at the end of it.

    Do you sleep walk to the fridge?? It's not possible to be exercising and eating in moderation and still be the size you are. You must be eating or drinking a lot more than you're saying here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    Been checked for it and I'm borderline, so it won't be treated.

    Ah, I see. So you are hypo but just not bad enough to be medicated.

    There are a number of dietary options that are geared toward improving thyroid function, or rather addressing the autoimmune process that damages the gland in the case of Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which is the cause of 90% of hypothyroidism. Most medical treatments seek to simply bypass the thyroid's function by means of HRT rather than actually treating the cause of the diesease - a faulty immune system.

    You could have a read of Dr Kharrazian's book for info on this, it is very interesting reading. https://www.scribd.com/doc/25224250/Why-Do-I-Still-Have-Thyroid-Symptoms-When-My-Lab-Tests-Are-Normal

    FWIW, my gf is hypo and at present is not taking anything for it. She gets a bit tired but lately she started drinking a few cups of green tea per day and has reported feeling less fatigued. I've also noticed her eyebrows are not as thin as they appear in some photos taken around christmas. To my knowledge she is not aware that GT is supposed to aid in dampening a Th1 dominant immune system which 90% of Hashi's sufferers have. So i doubt it's a placebo effect at work. Of course it could be a result of many other factors too but it might be worth a try mate.

    Gluten is also apparently a major trigger aggravator of Hashi's. Maybe you could try gluten free to take the pressure off your immune system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,122 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Might be worth waiting and seeing how tracking everything accurately over the course of 2-3 weeks works.

    Listen to this man. He makes sense. And don't frighten the OP with all sorts of medical conditions that he probably doesn't have, all you pseudo doctors out there.

    If a 19 stone overweight man consumes 1500 calories a day, he will lose weight even if he spends all day in bed. No matter what medical condition he has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭dibkins


    It sounds like your doctor might be letting you down here. I would go to another doc for a 2nd opinion on weather you are having any medical issues. In the meantime, track everything, at the very least it will be a log to show the doctor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Hypothyroidism accounts for 5-10lbs of extra weight. That's it. 10lbs is the most extreme end of the scale.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    Zillah wrote: »
    Hypothyroidism accounts for 5-10lbs of extra weight. That's it. 10lbs is the most extreme end of the scale.

    How can you possibly make that statement?

    If someone's metabolism is running at a lower than normal rate as a result of hypothyroidism and they continue to eat the same amount as someone with a normal metabolism they will have a chronic calorie surplus and they will continue gain weight indefinitely as long as the metabolism is low.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    OP said in his first post that he's been checked for thyroid issues and has none.

    Unless Hypothyroidism has nothing to do with the thyroid..?:confused:


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    Why has no one suggested exercise!!?


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