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Progress M-27M resupply to ISS in trouble

  • 28-04-2015 8:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭


    Progress resupply to the ISS which launched this morning with nearly 3 tonnes of supplies is spinning out of control in Earth orbit.



    Russians trying regain control but doesn't look good. This is likely to be the second resupply failure to ISS in just 6 months after an Antares rocket exploded last October destroying a Cygnus resupply vessel.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    Ha, hilarious!

    (No-one is in trouble so I can laugh without problems)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    Looks like this bird is gone for good. The last comms attempt didn't succeed and they were loosing propellant at a high rate. Also the batteries might be empty by now as well since there is no attitude control and that would render the solar panels useless (if they haven't broken off from the ships spining). That's probably two resuply ships now grounded.
    SpaceX better get their He leaks under controll so they can get the next Dragon up on time.

    Anyone knows if the Japanese HTV can do station reboosts?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    Hmmzis wrote: »
    Looks like this bird is gone for good. The last comms attempt didn't succeed and they were loosing propellant at a high rate. Also the batteries might be empty by now as well since there is no attitude control and that would render the solar panels useless (if they haven't broken off from the ships spining). That's probably two resuply ships now grounded.
    SpaceX better get their He leaks under controll so they can get the next Dragon up on time.

    Anyone knows if the Japanese HTV can do station reboosts?
    Yea, it can, see it on the list here down in August 17.

    The Progress is the only craft capable of resupplying propellant though, but they ain't short on anything up there for now. End of July they'd have to go on reserves for Food, SpaceX is due up mid June.

    Sewage Tank will be a problem before food, mid july for that.

    Or they could get a few of the Occupants to come home early and extend all those dates if they had to.

    46million euro this cost all in.

    I wonder will we see a fireball next week sometime, looks like complete uncontrolled reentry of this yoke...and they have to try and figure out what went wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭jimbis


    Are they still able to track its course? ie: will we be told roughly where it could burn up. I get excited about these things :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    jimbis wrote: »
    Are they still able to track its course? ie: will we be told roughly where it could burn up. I get excited about these things :D

    Oh yea, they'll know exactly closer to the date. They were even tracking 44 bits of debris (source unknown, explosion maybe due to spread of it was the thinking last I read, most of it has burned up now) that was beside the 27M.


    They'll keep trying to ditch it in the Pacific though as some parts of it WILL make it back to Earth AND the fuel is an unknown, if it freezes it'll make it back aswell.
    Re-entering the atmosphere, Progress will burn up and disintegrate to a large extent, but a number of pieces are known to survive re-entry and make it to the ground, including the Progress docking mechanism that is quite heavy, components of the main engine, and small spherical pressurant tanks. One large unknown is the propellant aboard the spacecraft that is stored in large tanks – if the toxic Unsymmetrical Dimethylhydrazine fuel and Nitrogen Tetroxide oxidizer freeze inside the tanks, some of the propellants may reach the ground.

    http://www.spaceflight101.com/progress-m-27m-mission-updates.html


    They'll be putting up a dedicated page over the weekend^^


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Expected to decay tonight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    Not predicted over Ireland but ya never know.

    http://www.satflare.com/ have good prediction map with the estimated touchdowns overlayed on it.


    Possible over North or South America, Asia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    And it's down. Burned up over the Pacific ocean last night.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    Hmmzis wrote: »
    And it's down. Burned up over the Pacific ocean last night.

    Just about to post same,

    Progress M-27M re-enters over the Pacific as Russia evaluates schedule

    http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/05/progress-m-27m-demise-russia-schedule/


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,572 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-32635037
    Re-entry was over the Pacific, it said, and only a few fragments were expected to hit the sea.
    that conjured visions of space debris hovering just above the water , like those Hydrophobic Wizards
    Roscosmos spokesman told Reuters that the loss was valued at 2.59 billion roubles ($50.7m; £32.9m).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    Not having much luck with the auld Rockets the Russians, they lost another Proton M last week. The 7th in 4 years. Not really ones for finding "causes"?



    Massive fraud/general russian corruptedness of $1.8 Billion just discovered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Ah sure look at anything that gets built here. Always massively over budget!


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