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Certificate of exemption

  • 28-04-2015 3:15pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭


    We are building an extension which is exemption from planning, by my calculations based on size. Do I need to get a certificate to show its exempt from planning so I can sell in the future and who would issue this? We have a engineer drawing up plans, but no architect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    As far as I understand it, the rules may vary from county to county, but most at least advise that you apply for a certificate of exemption to avoid any question over it in future.

    Certainly if you're planning on selling the property in the medium-term, I would strongly advise you obtain this certificate as most solicitors would not recommend someone purchase a house with no PP or exemption cert.

    The certificate is issued by the local authority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    seamus wrote: »
    The certificate is issued by the local authority.

    That is not correct.

    When you sell solicitors will seek an architect opinion on compliance - or exemption - from Planning Permision. Some will accept from an engineer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭blackbird 49


    The same thing happen when we were building a porch we didn't need planning permission but we're told by a friend to get an exemption cert, we went to the local council office and got one, when we sold the house a few years later the auctioneer asked us had we planning permission for porch, we said no we didn't need it all we needed was an exempt cert which we produced to him and the solicitor and had no problems, yes I would advise you to get one


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    ...an exemption cert, we went to the local council office and got one...

    Never heard any of the Dublin local authorities providing such a certificate?

    You can apply for a Section 5 Declaration (of Exemption). E80 fee. A bit like a planning application, they assess and then confirm whether or not a development is exempt from the requirement to obtain planning permission (or not exempt).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭blackbird 49


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Never heard any of the Dublin local authorities providing such a certificate?

    You can apply for a Section 5 Declaration (of Exemption). E80 fee. A bit like a planning application, they assess and then confirm whether or not a development is exempt from the requirement to obtain planning permission (or not exempt).

    Maybe things have change it was about 20yrs ago when we applied for one, with louth county council


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭irishguy


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Never heard any of the Dublin local authorities providing such a certificate?

    You can apply for a Section 5 Declaration (of Exemption). E80 fee. A bit like a planning application, they assess and then confirm whether or not a development is exempt from the requirement to obtain planning permission (or not exempt).

    I rang Dublin City council and they said I could apply for this if I wanted to but a letter from an engineer should be enough if we were selling. Thanks for the help


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    irishguy wrote: »
    I rang Dublin City council and they said I could apply for this if I wanted to but a letter from an engineer should be enough if we were selling. Thanks for the help

    DCC Section 5 application is €80 plus drawings.
    Engineer/Architects opinion on compliance in the future will cost €320 plus VAT at a minimum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    irishguy wrote: »
    a letter from an engineer

    :D

    not always forthcoming years after the event


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    irishguy wrote: »
    We have a engineer drawing up plans

    Ask is s/he indemified to issue

    1. an Opinion on Compliance with / exemption from Planning Permision
    2. an Opinion on Compliance with Building Regulations*

    You will need these to sell on.


    * nothing to do with so called "new" regulations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 CSTAN


    Hi, I have a similiar situation.... i got an extension done 5 years ago and was told it was within PP dimensions. I now want to move mortgage providers and require a certificate of exemption. It was via through a relative that the builder was sourced. This person is no longer contactable. Can anyone suggest how I can get the cert? as I do not know the building regulations, am I better going to an engineer or architect first? if so, does anyone have any recommendations?
    Thanks


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    CSTAN wrote: »
    Hi, I have a similiar situation.... i got an extension done 5 years ago and was told it was within PP dimensions. I now want to move mortgage providers and require a certificate of exemption. It was via through a relative that the builder was sourced. This person is no longer contactable. Can anyone suggest how I can get the cert? as I do not know the building regulations, am I better going to an engineer or architect first? if so, does anyone have any recommendations?
    Thanks

    Get in touch with a local Architect, Engineer or Building Surveyor. Some Technicians, and Technologists can provide this service also.
    Ask them to come to the house and give an opinion on Compliance with Building Regulation at the time and an Opinion of Exemption from the requirement of obtaining Planning Permission.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 CSTAN


    thanks kceire, will do


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