Which voice chat software do you intend to use for Splatoon?

Kefa

For those buying it and planning to use voice chat regardless.

CiDeRmAn

Not planning to use any of it.
Just want to see what the elements Nintendo have put in place to support online group play.
Can't wait to get it tbh

sligeach

I'm not using any of the options given. Curse Nintendo for leaving out voice chat. The poll could have given more choices. I'm that annoyed I'm in 2 minds of asking for a refund as I'd already bought it before they confirmed their decision on the game and their answers in any of the interviews on the matter, quite frankly have been embarrassing.

One element that seems to be important in team play is voice communication, but Splatoon doesn't have that feature. How does Mr Nogami think players will communicate in-game if they are serious about playing as a team.

"In terms of communication in games in general, there are two main types: communication about strategy, and communication about feelings you have while playing at that moment. When that point is applied to this game, one interesting aspect of Splatoon is that the actions you take shooting ink can immediately be seen in the stage you're playing by yourself and other players, and conversely when you see the actions other players are taking shooting ink, it's something you can interpret immediately and then base your next actions on that and judging what that means. That's an important part of the gameplay in Splatoon."

"In designing the game, we paid special attention to allowing the gameplay to cover a lot of ground for that kind of strategic communication. However we definitely understand the importance players put on that other type of communication that's more feelings-based."

"And so because we understand that desire for players to have that kind of emotional communication, we can imagine players using some way or another to achieve that extra layer of communication while playing the game."

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/hisashi-nogami-interview-

Mr E

None of the above.

I hate voicechat in games. Pre-teen Americans shouting abuse gets old real fast.

sligeach

Mr E wrote: »

None of the above.

I hate voicechat in games. Pre-teen Americans shouting abuse gets old real fast.

That's what a mute button is for. Also, what about voice chat for friends? Nintendo are always behind the times in respect of features like this.

Corholio

Won't be using any either. The different elements to this game, it won't be missed at all.

Looking forward to playing it.

Star Lord

Likewise, I'll be using none of them. The rubbish that goes hand in hand with any in game voice chat is not something I enjoy, and it has put me off playing games online before.

smokingman

Also won't be using any of it. If it's not angry yank teens, it's angry "others" who seem to love the sound of their own voice.

cherryghost

I'll use teamspeak. The boards.ie one. Always on it normally anyway.

Banjo

None of the above. Voicechat ruins the otherwise semi-social aspect of playing games on the couch while interrupting my wife watching Poldark to ask "What's with the hats? Who's he? I thought the other fella was the cousin. The funny looking one. Wait, why's he kissing that other mans wife? No she's not! Is she? Then which one is the cousin? etc etc". However, if there tend to be people on the Boards.ie TeamSpeak that know which one is the cousin in Poldark, I could be convinced to change my mind.

sligeach

What's with the assumption of pre-pubescent Yanks screaming blue murder down the line? I play Mario Kart 8 online with my friends online and we don't carry on like that. There are civilised people out there. Options people! They're great but Nintendo don't and won't give us them. One simple solution is voicechat amongst friends. Find a fault with that. I can't believe people defend such narrow mindedness.

CiDeRmAn

sligeach wrote: »

That's what a mute button is for. Also, what about voice chat for friends? Nintendo are always behind the times in respect of features like this.

Hardly behind the times.
They are perfectly capable of including voice chat, having integrated it into Animal Crossing on the Wii, and releasing hardware to support it.
But they've decided against it for reasons, good reasons, but perhaps not the only choice.
I'd like to have seen the option given to the player, locked out with the parental controls by default, but Nintendo simply don't want a game with a broad demographic like Splatoon being exposed to the type of stuff that is common in online comms.

cherryghost

Probably just me but they're missing the boat on that. You could simply have an option to enable/disable voicechat but Nintendo decided to not even give the buyer an option at all.

I don't see why its at least not an option. I kind of rue for it on Mario Kart 8 also.

sligeach

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Hardly behind the times.
They are perfectly capable of including voice chat, having integrated it into Animal Crossing on the Wii, and releasing hardware to support it.
But they've decided against it for reasons, good reasons, but perhaps not the only choice.
I'd like to have seen the option given to the player, locked out with the parental controls by default, but Nintendo simply don't want a game with a broad demographic like Splatoon being exposed to the type of stuff that is common in online comms.

Then we'll never have voice chat because that's what Nintendo aims for with every game they develop. It's different for the games they publish but don't develop. What was the point of parental controls if they're never used? We all get treated like kids when in fact the majority of Wii U are probably over the age of 18.

Corholio

I think the original intention of this thread is already starting to veer off.

DARK-KNIGHT

Are you actually all buying splatoon? cNt say what I have seen has inspired me to buy it

CiDeRmAn

Corholio wrote: »

I think the original intention of this thread is already starting to veer off.

Yeah, can see this devolving into a Ninty bashing exercise again, expecting a certain user or two to pop up any minute and get stuck in.

Andrew76

cherryghost wrote: »

Probably just me but they're missing the boat on that. You could simply have an option to enable/disable voicechat but Nintendo decided to not even give the buyer an option at all.

I don't see why its at least not an option. I kind of rue for it on Mario Kart 8 also.

Exactly. They should have at least provided the ability to chat and given folks the choice to use it or not. I would have imagined voice chat is pretty much essential for games like this when playing with friends online.

Expressing reasonable arguments isn't Nintendo bashing either. It's usually born out of frustration by Nintendo fans wanting Nintendo to do things better.

CiDeRmAn

Andrew76 wrote: »

Exactly. They should have at least provided the ability to chat and given folks the choice to use it or not. I would have imagined voice chat is pretty much essential for games like this when playing with friends online.

Expressing reasonable arguments isn't Nintendo bashing either. It's usually born out of frustration by Nintendo fans wanting Nintendo to do things better.

I know, you are right, but much of comment elsewhere on the issue degrades into how out of touch Nintendo supposedly are and then its just trolling about them being crap.
I would have liked to have seen a parental locked voice chat option being available myself.
Perhaps something for an update to fix a little later?

Nollog

I find it sad that so many of you don't want voice chat in the game, when the developers could have an "on/off" switch in a menu.

Don't encourage the old sod's. No voice chat in this game is ridiculous.

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I know, you are right, but much of comment elsewhere on the issue degrades into how out of touch Nintendo supposedly are and then its just trolling about them being crap.
I would have liked to have seen a parental locked voice chat option being available myself.
Perhaps something for an update to fix a little later?

It won't be "fixed". One of the developers said in an interview that being called names in games made him feel bad, so no voice chat ever.

Like, calm down. They don't know anything about you, why must you take a comment so seriously from someone who doesn't even know what you look like, let alone anything else about you or how you play/live.

And it's not about bashing Nintendo, it's about "why can't they just have an on/off switch for the people with sensitive feelings?".
They need ot catch up to the other two manufacturers, and this doesn't help them do that.

murphyebass

Personally I couldn't care less if there's no voice chat but it really should be there as an option for those who do want it.

I can't wait for this game though.

Every time I look at it I just think it looks soooo good.

It'll be interesting to see what sort of community it creates and more importantly how long people stick with it.

Personally I'm still jumping back to Marino kart 8 which is the sign of a crackin game. DLC or not I reckon I'd still be comin back for more every now and then.

CiDeRmAn

/\/ollog wrote: »

I find it sad that so many of you don't want voice chat in the game, when the developers could have an "on/off" switch in a menu.

Don't encourage the old sod's. No voice chat in this game is ridiculous.



It won't be "fixed". One of the developers said in an interview that being called names in games made him feel bad, so no voice chat ever.

Like, calm down. They don't know anything about you, why must you take a comment so seriously from someone who doesn't even know what you look like, let alone anything else about you or how you play/live.

And it's not about bashing Nintendo, it's about "why can't they just have an on/off switch for the people with sensitive feelings?".
They need ot catch up to the other two manufacturers, and this doesn't help them do that.

What now?
I don't like people abusing me in online gaming, I don't like the feature and, as a dad, I wouldn't like my son who loves to play Nintendo, being exposed to that either.
I do, however, understand the need for many players of competitive online games, to communicate strategy to each other. This is why I think it should be simply locked with a parental pin. Then all people are catered for.
Why launch into a " sensitive feelings" comment?

And I don't think Nintendo are in a particular race to catch up with anyone, I would further suggest the only metric Nintendo are aware of is past success and innovation, what the PS4 and XB1 are doing is hardly relevant at all to a discussion on Splatoon.

Nollog

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Why launch into a " sensitive feelings" comment?

http://nintendoeverything.com/new-splatoon-details-development-lack-of-voice-chat-explained-more/

– Splatoon has no voice chat and never will. Amano says: “This is coming from personal experience. When I played online games, I didn’t like the negativity I got and people telling me ‘You’re crap. Go away’. So we wanted to focus on the positive aspects of online gaming”.

Because that's the reason it's not in the game.

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

And I don't think Nintendo are in a particular race to catch up with anyone, I would further suggest the only metric Nintendo are aware of is past success and innovation, what the PS4 and XB1 are doing is hardly relevant at all to a discussion on Splatoon.

Online features are the number one complaint people have when talking about Nintendo.
They do need to catch up to their competition in this area to achieve more success in this market.

That's like saying ford don't need to make an electric car because sure it's a diesel, it's innovating and successful. Bad analogy but whatever.

CiDeRmAn

/\/ollog wrote: »

http://nintendoeverything.com/new-splatoon-details-development-lack-of-voice-chat-explained-more/

Because that's the reason it's not in the game.

It might be a reason it's not in the game, but there may be other more commercial Amano says he’s not saying that chat in an online game can’t contribute to fun but they want to grab new players.concerns, given the family friendly rating on the game itself.

Amano says he’s not saying that chat in an online game can’t contribute to fun but they want to grab new players.

And I think there's an admission there that chat is a benefit to this genre but they are after another market, perhaps a larger one.

Online features are the number one complaint people have when talking about Nintendo.
They do need to catch up to their competition in this area to achieve more success in this market.

I couldn't agree with you more.
But,
It didn't seem to hurt the PS3 a great deal that it's online service was dreadful in comparison to the 360, in fact it was only with the introduction of the paid online service with PS+ that the thing grew wings, including the carrot of free games every month as long as people subscribed.
Prior to that Sony trumpeted their free service as opposed to the subscription model from MS.
In the same way Nintendos online features will surely evolve, it is free right now, which is good, but the way purchases are locked to devices rather than accounts is a drag, looking forward to seeing the PS+ model rolled out, if possible, in the future, mean a lot to me when I look at the large array of handhelds and consoles but I'm limited to transferring my purchases to only single machines.

sligeach

God help Nintendo when/if they ever try to charge for online. Who would ever pay for it? It's so bad in general, and worse when compared to the competition. Decisions like no voice chat in Splatoon shows an unwillingness to change. Where have we seen that before? They should be trying to achieve some level of parity with the competition. How do you gain a larger market by leaving out voice chat? Nobody looks at the back of a games case and says to themselves, "This has voice chat, I'm not buying this game". Online shooters are synonymous with voice chat. It's a new ip, they should be doing everything to attract players.

Corholio

Jesus lads.

Which software?....

chopperbyrne

I won't be buying this game directly because of the exclusion of voice chat.

Using third party solutions is fine on PC, but not on console.

Banjo

On the On/Off switch thing : If you have an On/Off switch, then there will be a competitive bias towards players who leave it On, which will negatively impact those who have it Off. Who wants to have the gimp on their team who can't follow orders or holler out even the most basic information, let alone doesn't know his mother is a slaaaaag and can't be told? No voice chat levels the playing field and/or pushes players towards the new Nintendo Shout! chat system that DeNA are developing for Android, which I just made up.

@Corholio : You didn't put options for "None" or "Jesus, Nintendo, get your act together!" so you have no one to blame but yourself :P

sligeach

Banjo wrote: »

On the On/Off switch thing : If you have an On/Off switch, then there will be a competitive bias towards players who leave it On, which will negatively impact those who have it Off. Who wants to have the gimp on their team who can't follow orders or holler out even the most basic information, let alone doesn't know his mother is a slaaaaag and can't be told? No voice chat levels the playing field and/or pushes players towards the new Nintendo Shout! chat system that DeNA are developing for Android, which I just made up.

@Corholio : You didn't put options for "None" or "Jesus, Nintendo, get your act together!" so you have no one to blame but yourself :P

Ya but then those that use Skype or equivalent will have an advantage over us that sit in silence.

Corholio

Banjo wrote: »

@Corholio : You didn't put options for "None" or "Jesus, Nintendo, get your act together!" so you have no one to blame but yourself :P

I also didn't start the thread or poll :pac:

DARK-KNIGHT

If your all getting this I am suddenly interested a shooter was needed on Wii u
And before someone says it cod on Wii u is atrocious for the most part.

Banjo

Splatoon isn't a shooter, it's a team-based extreme decorating simulator, or as the kids are calling them : TEDS. They're all the rage now. Splatoon is definitely shaping up to be better than the XBox offering, Warpaper (which if you ask me is a dig at Ninty's japanese heritage and is just plain racist) but it's still early days for Sony's TEDS fighter, Kung Shui - that could be all kinds of interesting.

Nollog

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/hisashi-nogami-interview-

Hisashi Nogami wrote:

"In terms of communication in games in general, there are two main types: communication about strategy, and communication about feelings you have while playing at that moment. When that point is applied to this game, one interesting aspect of Splatoon is that the actions you take shooting ink can immediately be seen in the stage you're playing by yourself and other players, and conversely when you see the actions other players are taking shooting ink, it's something you can interpret immediately and then base your next actions on that and judging what that means. That's an important part of the gameplay in Splatoon.

"In designing the game, we paid special attention to allowing the gameplay to cover a lot of ground for that kind of strategic communication. However we definitely understand the importance players put on that other type of communication that's more feelings-based.

"And so because we understand that desire for players to have that kind of emotional communication, we can imagine players using some way or another to achieve that extra layer of communication while playing the game."

A new interview where the developer says voice chat isn't needed to communicate.