Should lads relax about the new spraying regs?

locky76

As the title suggests maybe it is time to chill a bit about the new spraying regs...
I would consider sprays to be the most dangerous (long term) substances we use on Irish farms so maybe a bit of formal training isn't any harm, even the most harmless course you will pick up something either formally or by talking to other people on the course.
I would imagine there is a strong link between inappropriate use of chemical sprays and cancer and other diseases later on in life.
As regards the double training for boom and lance, just do the boom, this will allow you pick up the main lessons and will also make you compliant as regards buying new sprays in 2016.
Just my tuppence worth!

I said

The price of training is the bug bearer and two seperate courses load of money grabbing dung one course should cover all .

farmerjj

Can you buy spray now without haven the course done,is this coming in next year(sorry its bit off topic but do see what your saying)

locky76

I said wrote: »

The price of training is the bug bearer and two seperate courses load of money grabbing dung one course should cover all .

FarmCo are doing the boom course for €120, quite reasonable I would imagine given that lads spend multiples of this on sprays annually.
Just do the boom course (what knapsack say I!).

Buford T. Justice XIX

farmerjj wrote: »

Can you buy spray now without haven the course done,is this coming in next year(sorry its bit off topic but do see what your saying)

You can buy up to 10 liters of spray but you will have to get someone qualified to spray to do the spraying from later on this year if i understand it properly.

I think you can still spray up to November(?) when the regulation comes into force but either way, keep records of what spray, how much of it and where it was sprayed.

ford 5600

Is getting your sprayer tested, and actually passing the test not going to be the real money pit ?
By the time you have the course/courses done ,sprayer tested and whatever repairs done , it will make very little sense for any grassland farmers to have there own sprayer. You would get a lot of spraying done for €1000-€1500. The cost of the chemical is the big one . I know lads rushing out doing the course , that would not buy a 20 l drum mcpa. Would they not be better off getting a contractor to do the work, and spend the money on a bit of spray

ganmo

With conditions and timing so important to spraying I can see there been issues with contractors doing it, esp if it's spraying with a knapsack

One thing I don't like about it is that the people graduating as 'qualified' farmers will still have to go on do these courses

C0N0R

ford 5600 wrote: »

Is getting your sprayer tested, and actually passing the test not going to be the real money pit ?
By the time you have the course/courses done ,sprayer tested and whatever repairs done , it will make very little sense for any grassland farmers to have there own sprayer. You would get a lot of spraying done for €1000-€1500. The cost of the chemical is the big one . I know lads rushing out doing the course , that would not buy a 20 l drum mcpa. Would they not be better off getting a contractor to do the work, and spend the money on a bit of spray

But surely repairs to the sprayer make sense! If in the process of testing the sprayer it becomes more Efficient and accurate is that not to your advantage?

djmc

ganmo wrote: »

With conditions and timing so important to spraying I can see there been issues with contractors doing it, esp if it's spraying with a knapsack

One thing I don't like about it is that the people graduating as 'qualified' farmers will still have to go on do these courses

+1
This should have been covered as part of the green cert.
Its like passing your driving test and after 20 years experience with full licence being told that you're not qualified to drive anymore unless you fork out money and sit 2 new tests
Or probably one for every category on the licence.
Its a slap in the face to our intelligence.

Muckit

Locky there are id say 10lads on here that forked out on a new sprayer in the last few years. Now they potentially won't be able to use them, or at least it won't be financially viable to do so.

There should have been a threshold. Ie you could use up to 10l of spray/year without having to do a paid course.

Muckit

It would be in spray manufacturers interests to subsidise these training courses.

And all the lads that went and sold their toppers.

locky76

i bought a jarmet 3 years ago and it's one of the best things which has come into the place...
but I do wonder about the long tern implications of using sprays if not handled correctly, it's against that backdrop I'm approaching the course in a positive light, it's coming anyway so may as well be positive about it.

Muckit wrote: »

Locky there are id say 10lads on here that forked out on a new sprayer in the last few years. Now they potentially won't be able to use them, or at least it won't be financially viable to do so.

There should have been a threshold. Ie you could use up to 10l of spray/year without having to do a paid course.