Scumbags and First Communion.

Ralf and Florian

Two identical recent courtcases outline the way some charming citizens regard the ritual of kids communion as a chance for boozing ,fighting and acting the scut.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-ran-over-post-mistress-after-aggro-at-communion-31158355.html


There was another case where a woman was at a communion party in a house and attacked a Garda who was dealing with a separate matter outside,but I can't find the link for that.Anyway,between stretch hummers,overpriced outfits and some parents getting rat arsed at the "parties" is it not high time to do away with the whole outdated ritual?

The same scumbag behaviour happened at a BBQ on many sunny Summers day.

I know.....lets do away with the sun.

pmasterson95

Tbh if we round up and exterminate the scumbags people will be upset.

You get brawls and stabbings and injuries at birthday parties, Christmas dinners, weddings...whenever people gather and there is alcohol involved.

Blaming Communions is possibly missing the reason.

major bill

''reversed over her''

what a knacker bastard he is, who'd be a prison guard having to deal with this scumbag on a daily basis

Ralf and Florian

TheTorment wrote: »

The same scumbag behaviour happened at a BBQ on many sunny Summers day.

I know.....lets do away with the sun.

BBQs are just having the craic.Communion is all about some religious ritual that no one knows the meaning of anymore where kids are dressed up in what look like wedding outfits.In fairness it just seems to have degenerated over the years into a meaingless charade where families either try to show off their wealth or drink themselves stupid.

Ralf and Florian

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

BBQs are just having the craic.Communion is all about some religious ritual that no one knows the meaning of anymore where kids are dressed up in what look like wedding outfits.

I thought the violence was the issue for you in your first post, not the costumes?

CarrickMcJoe

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Tbh if we round up and exterminate the scumbags people will be upset.

And Jeremy Kyle would be out of a job...

Nothing as bad as seeing adults sloshed in a pub on what is supposed to be the child's day. All they get to do is sit in the corner eating crisps for the day.

crazygeryy

What sickens me is parents who think it's OK to spend the day in the pub after the communion with kids running every where while they get pissed.

haveringchick

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Two identical recent courtcases outline the way some charming citizens regard the ritual of kids communion as a chance for boozing ,fighting and acting the scut.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-ran-over-post-mistress-after-aggro-at-communion-31158355.html


There was another case where a woman was at a communion party in a house and attacked a Garda who was dealing with a separate matter outside,but I can't find the link for that.Anyway,between stretch hummers,overpriced outfits and some parents getting rat arsed at the "parties" is it not high time to do away with the whole outdated ritual?

What you need to do is write to:
Pope Francis
The Vatican
Rome
Italy
and tell him to stop the Sacrament of First Eucharist as observed by over 1 billion Catholics because you don't like drunken scumbags in hummers.
You don'. Mind drunken scumbags in hummers at :
Birthdays
Hens
Stage
Wedding anniversaries
Funerals
Work leaving dos
Dens
Just communions.
I'd say it's reasonable enough.

El Weirdo

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

Nothing as bad as seeing adults sloshed in a pub on what is supposed to be the child's day. All they get to do is sit in the corner eating crisps for the day.

crazygeryy wrote: »

What sickens me is parents who think it's OK to spend the day in the pub after the communion with kids running every where while they get pissed.

Wait, are the kids sat in the corner eating crisps all day, or running everywhere?

conorhal

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

BBQs are just having the craic.Communion is all about some religious ritual that no one knows the meaning of anymore where kids are dressed up in what look like wedding outfits.In fairness it just seems to have degenerated over the years into a meaingless charade where families either try to show off their wealth or drink themselves stupid.

When I made my communion in the 80's, I did so in a second hand suit handed down from my cousin who'd made his communion the year before, it was a family affair with relatives in attendence and we wen't to a steak resteraunt (an unheard of treat) afterwards and then back to the house for some tea and cake with the grandparents, I don't remember a drop of alcohol being touched.

When did kids parties and communions become an excuse to binge drink? And you know what, it's not just the 'usual suspects', plenty of middle class and country parents are at this craic too. What a fine example to set.
We really have developed disfunctional relationship with alcohol in the country and it's happened over the last 20yrs.

Ralf and Florian

While not a fan of the current government the best thing theyve done is remove social welfare bonuses for communion.Its mostly going on drink and wasteful extravagance like pink limos and over the top dresses.If it was truly religious event they woulden't need any of that malarkey.

efb

haveringchick wrote: »

What you need to do is write to:
Pope Francis
The Vatican
Rome
Italy
and tell him to stop the Sacrament of First Eucharist as observed by over 1 billion Catholics because you don't like drunken scumbags in hummers.
You don'. Mind drunken scumbags in hummers at :
Birthdays
Hens
Stage
Wedding anniversaries
Funerals
Work leaving dos
Dens
Just communions.
I'd say it's reasonable enough.

Why would include another state and its city in his address?

anncoates

TheTorment wrote: »

The same scumbag behaviour happened at a BBQ on many sunny Summers day.

I know.....lets do away with the sun.

Deleted User wrote: »

You get brawls and stabbings and injuries at birthday parties, Christmas dinners, weddings...whenever people gather and there is alcohol involved.

Blaming Communions is possibly missing the reason.

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought the violence was the issue for you in your first post, not the costumes?

So the OP gives himself a high five as he's unearthed a plausible excuse to set yet another scumbag thread on its way to sea.

Then it gets fatally torpedoed, a minute or two into its maiden voyage.

Back to the drawing board.

Ralf and Florian

anncoates wrote: »

So the OP gives himself a high five as he's unearthed a plausible excuse to set yet another scumbag thread on its way to sea.

Then it gets fatally torpedoed, a minute or two into its maiden voyage.

Back to the drawing board.

Thats what you think.I haven't even started.:P

anncoates

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Thats what you think.I haven't even started.:P

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--ZQkH9ESm--/17msrnrw3mpxjjpg.jpg

Banjoxed

Not having stretch Hummers and slabs of Budweiser at First Communions makes the Baby Jesus cry.

Ralf and Florian

Ralf and Florian

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

One could find pics from the www of ridiculous and ott costumes at many celebrations, not limited to Communions.

Along with examples of drunken brawling and violence.

The cause of the drunken brawling and violence is not not the costumes. It usually is the drink.

The goalposts seem to be moving around in this one.

Ralf and Florian

Deleted User wrote: »

One could find pics from the www of ridiculous and ott costumes at many celebrations, not limited to Communions.

Along with examples of drunken brawling and violence.

The cause of the drunken brawling and violence is not not the costumes. It usually is the drink.

The goalposts seem to be moving around in this one.

Is drink really necessary at a kids celebration in the first place?

Taxburden carrier

Should really be called First and Last Communion.

dub_skav

Deleted User wrote: »

One could find pics from the www of ridiculous and ott costumes at many celebrations, not limited to Communions.

Along with examples of drunken brawling and violence.

The cause of the drunken brawling and violence is not not the costumes. It usually is the drink.

The goalposts seem to be moving around in this one.

I've never been attacked by a beer or a glass of wine. The cause of the violence is always people

Is it really necessary to post up pictures of kids?

anncoates

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Is it really necessary to post up pictures of kids?

Regrettable collateral damage in the outrage wars.

machiavellianme

I particularly like the picture of the judges gavel. Adds a lot to this story.

conorhal

dub_skav wrote: »

I've never been attacked by a beer or a glass of wine. The cause of the violence is always people

Ah the old 'guns don't kill people, people do' argument. While technically true, they do make it a hell of a lot easier, just as alcohol makes it a hell of a lot more likely.
People in this country get really tetchy if you critisise their alcohol consumption, it's like taking a toy off a stroppy toddler after he's belted his sister with it.

jester77

Is communion still part of the school curriculum in Ireland, or something that is now done by religious families in their own time?

Ralf and Florian

jester77 wrote: »

Is communion still part of the school curriculum in Ireland, or something that is now done by religious families in their own time?

The former as far as I know.

vicwatson

jester77 wrote: »

Is communion still part of the school curriculum in Ireland, or something that is now done by religious families in their own time?

Unfortunately the children are still being brainwashed in schools funded by the taxpayer

conorhal

vicwatson wrote: »

Unfortunately the children are still being brainwashed in schools funded by the taxpayer

Well it doesn't seem to be taking judging by all the communion afters carry on. But then I've always suspected that the the Irish were always far more about the golden calf then the hippie dude.

Effects

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Is it not high time to do away with the whole outdated ritual?

How is dressing seven year olds up in wedding dresses and promising them to Jesus outdated?

dub_skav

conorhal wrote: »

Ah the old 'guns don't kill people, people do' argument. While technically true, they do make it a hell of a lot easier, just as alcohol makes it a hell of a lot more likely.
People in this country get really tetchy if you critisise their alcohol consumption, it's like taking a toy off a stroppy toddler after he's belted his sister with it.

Actually, it's more like taking a toy off a perfectly well-behaved child who has done nothing wrong because a spoiled brat has hit somebody with a similar toy.
I only get tetchy with people who spout nonsense.

A beer is not like chekhov's gun, the vast majority of people who drink can and do imbibe sensible amounts of alcohol and do not start fights.
Fights are started by scumbags (from all social and economic strata), whether they have consumed alcohol or not.

Now, on topic, binge drinking at a child's event is wholly inappropriate, but the kind of person who would drink to excess and start a fight n front of children is the kind of person who would start a fight over a parking space while entirely sober.

Hoop66

Would it be possile to have a new term, Scummunion, for where the participants don't meet OP's strict criteria for being allowed to have a drink?

anncoates

machiavellianme wrote: »

I particularly like the picture of the judges gavel. Adds a lot to this story.

The address is quite good too: Dulled Court.

Sounds like a imaginary dystopic street from a Morrissey tune.

haveringchick

anncoates wrote: »

The address is quite good too: Dulled Court.

Sounds like a imaginary dystopic street from a Morrissey tune.

"Oh how I loathed Dulled Court
That carbunkle, that wart
On the rain drenched face
Of my Salford childhood"
Or even
"Dulled Court
The skips and the litter
Byt don't listen to me
Im lonely and bitter"

nullzero

Scumbags can and will be scummy whatever the occasion. Never ones to deviate from type, they'll never surprise you by being respectable or pleasant, you could set your watch to the behavioural traits of your average common or garden scumbag. There are only three certainties in life; death, taxes and scumbags making c*nts of themselves at every opportunity.

Smidge

What exactly is the OP giving out about this fine morning?
Is it religion? Or drinking? Or kids? Or tacky coloured cars?
Or is it just the usual regurgitated drivel?

pmasterson95

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I thought the violence was the issue for you in your first post, not the costumes?

No anti church

Lt J.R. Bell

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Two identical recent courtcases outline the way some charming citizens regard the ritual of kids communion as a chance for boozing ,fighting and acting the scut.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-ran-over-post-mistress-after-aggro-at-communion-31158355.html


There was another case where a woman was at a communion party in a house and attacked a Garda who was dealing with a separate matter outside,but I can't find the link for that.Anyway,between stretch hummers,overpriced outfits and some parents getting rat arsed at the "parties" is it not high time to do away with the whole outdated ritual?

What a surprise, another predictable church bashing thread

If you and your pals feel that the sacrament of Holy Communion is outdated, then don't elect your children to take it up. The day can be very simple if people wanted it to be. No hummers or fancy clothes, school uniform even

There was little of this behaviour 20 years ago. Holy Communion is not to blame, nor are Christians, Weddings, Funerals

It does not matter what the day is, you just can not buy class. These knackers would do this at any event

Did you give much thought to the thread?

Lt J.R. Bell

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Tbh if we round up and exterminate the scumbags people will be upset.

PAVEE Point maybe, but the rest of civilisation? Nah

Lt J.R. Bell

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought the violence was the issue for you in your first post, not the costumes?

No, it was an attempt to bash the church. Why else would you ignore the fact that behaviour like that would happen any other time of the year.

Lt J.R. Bell

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

And Jeremy Kyle would be out of a job...

Nothing as bad as seeing adults sloshed in a pub on what is supposed to be the child's day. All they get to do is sit in the corner eating crisps for the day.

Never mind Jermey Kyle

Joe Duffy, and those late night radio hosts on Classic Hits Fm (Niall Boylan) and Fm103

Lt J.R. Bell

Taxburden carrier wrote: »

Should really be called First and Last Communion.

Well, considering they will receive the Eucharist at Confirmation.......

Try harder

Lt J.R. Bell

vicwatson wrote: »

Unfortunately the children are still being brainwashed in schools funded by the taxpayer

Are they? Really?

By the looks of it, the behaviour of teens now a days is far from Christian.

Nollog

I think after hours should just be linked to the atheist forum there's been so many of these threads.

mikom

http://i.imgur.com/rNyTbDJ.png

eamonnq

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Is it really necessary to post up pictures of kids?

No, some people could find that really upsetting (or boring).

El Weirdo

mikom wrote: »

http://i.imgur.com/rNyTbDJ.png

Those Protestants Catholics, up to no good as usual.

Pumpkinseeds

Scumbags will be scumbags. My husband passed by a scummy neighbours house on his way home from work yesterday evening and overheard some huge fat guy boasting about how he beat some fella up at the weekend. Come to think of it, they've a gang of kids, so at least 1 of theirs will be making Communion next month. Should be fun, again. Funny how some people with no jobs can afford stretch limos for their kids Communion. :rolleyes:

crazygeryy

mikom wrote: »

http://i.imgur.com/rNyTbDJ.png

I wonder what the 7 krishnas did : )