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Extradite killers to the USA.

  • 16-04-2015 5:47pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭


    In light of the tragic events in Glasgow, I see no reason why say the governments of Ireland and the UK could reach some agreement to send people convicted of crimes like this to the USA, where they can be put on death row.

    Seriously, crimes like this are the lowest of the low and I am sure the cost of sending these vile people abroad can be subsidised by tax payers.

    I am all in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Why not just bring in death row here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Chijj


    What a stupid suggestion.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Completely pointless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    Yeah because people love paying taxes. I'm guessing sunstroke influenced this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Heisenberg1


    catallus wrote: »
    Why not just bring in death row here?

    I'm all for that but the do gooders in this country would never allow it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    Well apart from the fact that the crimes were not committed in the US and did not involve US citizens there is also the fact that not every US state carries out executions.

    Plus I'd wager the yanks wouldn't really want to have to do other countries dirty work for them.

    Good plan though, I can see you've put a lot of thought into it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Reinstate the state executioner...I'll sign up for the vacancy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    wouldnt it make more sense just to implement the death penalty. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Why get the US to deal with our scumbags? Not their problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I can't see why we don't just send them all our criminals and save the country a fortune.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    How would this help exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Hachiko wrote: »
    In light of the tragic events in Glasgow, I see no reason why say the governments of Ireland and the UK could reach some agreement to send people convicted of crimes like this to the USA, where they can be put on death row.

    Seriously, crimes like this are the lowest of the low and I am sure the cost of sending these vile people abroad can be subsidised by tax payers.

    I am all in.

    Even if this had happened in the US the killer is unlikely to be given a death sentence. They don't just sentence every killer to death you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    I can't see why we don't just send them all our criminals and save the country a fortune.

    I think you'll find it would make them a fortune.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    cml387 wrote: »
    How would this help exactly?
    It would be the first policy decision in the history of the state dictated by facebook comments.

    Closely followed by the naming and shaming of everyone questioned or suspected of anything because we are nosy bastards.

    Not to forget life imprisonment for anyone described in a post as 'scum' if that post gets fifty or more likes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    El Guapo! wrote: »

    It's an original idea.

    How often does that happen here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Heisenberg1


    OP what needs to be done here is an overall of the sentencing in this country. If

    a person commits premeditated murder and is found guilty of same they should

    never see the light of day again in this country life should mean that LIFE!. 17

    years is the average term served by prisoners on a life sentence what a fcuking joke that is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    Death penalty is such a waste. Carry we not just carry out experiments on them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    kneemos wrote: »
    It's an original idea.

    How often does that happen here?

    Oh ok, an idiotic original idea.

    Happy now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    It would be the first policy decision in the history of the state dictated by facebook comments.

    Closely followed by the naming and shaming of everyone questioned or suspected of anything because we are nosy bastards.

    Not to forget life imprisonment for anyone described in a post as 'scum' if that post gets fifty or more likes.

    Lets burn down the homes of all the Paediatricians!

    They're evil scum!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wang King


    What happens if said person is tried, deported and executed....and a year later they find out it was his roommate who did it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Lets burn down the homes of all the Paediatricians!

    They're evil scum!

    They even put plaques on the wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    On the other hand, the death penalty would be a useful punishment for those who insist on packing their voluminous shopping at the checkout in Lidl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Heisenberg1


    Wang King wrote: »
    What happens if said person is tried, deported and executed....and a year later they find out it was his roommate who did it.

    Send a Ham to the widow then send the roomate over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    cml387 wrote: »
    On the other hand, the death penalty would be a useful punishment for those who insist on packing their voluminous shopping at the checkout in Lidl.

    Yeah mate. No point having voluminous shopping if you don't take it home and pack it in the dark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Heisenberg1


    Send a Ham to the widow then send the roomate over.

    on second thoughts cancel the ham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    kneemos wrote: »
    It's an original idea.

    How often does that happen here?

    How come you didn't start this thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    Well apart from the fact that the crimes were not committed in the US and did not involve US citizens there is also the fact that not every US state carries out executions.

    Plus I'd wager the yanks wouldn't really want to have to do other countries dirty work for them.

    Good plan though, I can see you've put a lot of thought into it.

    I will come back with a revised plan B...

    just need to watch law abiding citizen now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Yeah because people love paying taxes.
    Although I agree it's a stupid idea, cost of flying them to the USA would be SFA compared to their annual expense in prison.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Even if this had happened in the US the killer is unlikely to be given a death sentence. They don't just sentence every killer to death you know.

    for killing someone like that, chances of getting on death row would be pretty high.

    life, with no parole and a large big mac and extra large everything before you go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    I'm sure the American taxpayers will have no problem with spending serious cash on dealing with our problem, for no obvious gain to themselves. Sure they love us, the Irish built the roads etc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Birneybau wrote: »
    How come you didn't start this thread?

    My apprentice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    We need to outsource our prison system to private companies, there will be no perks for inmates then, work them to the bone breaking rocks.
    Anyone convicted of murder straight to the electric chair within a hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    This thread is a good example of why emotion has no place in lawmaking.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 491 ✭✭Dozer Dave


    We need to outsource our prison system to private companies, there will be no perks for inmates then, work them to the bone breaking rocks.

    Give them a shovel and a pick and put them freeing blocked drains on the road side.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭magentis


    Its obviously that evil bastard in Glasgow that we are talking about here.
    Why should he be able to get out of prison in his mid thirties and probably start a family and live his life after what he has done?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    c_man wrote: »
    I'm sure the American taxpayers will have no problem with spending serious cash on dealing with our problem, for no obvious gain to themselves. Sure they love us, the Irish built the roads etc etc

    A lot of u.s states have outsourced there prison systems to private companies, these would be glad to take our inmates for a fee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    The US is a shining example of how the death penalty and inhuman prison conditions leads to a nearly crime free society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    Dozer Dave wrote: »
    Give them a shovel and a pick .....

    Give the prisoners shovels and picks?

    You obviously haven't ever watched the Great Escape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    kneemos wrote: »
    It's an original idea.

    How often does that happen here?


    No - the Brits were doing it centurues ago (they just used Australia)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    A lot of u.s states have outsourced there prison systems to private companies, these would be glad to take our inmates for a fee.

    They can't take non American prisoners convicted of crimes outside of the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    Give the prisoners shovels and picks?

    You obviously haven't ever watched the Great Escape.

    Or as it's called in Germany, the Great Recapture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    A lot of u.s states have outsourced there prison systems to private companies, these would be glad to take our inmates for a fee.

    Private companies don't execute people though. Right....? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    c_man wrote: »
    I'm sure the American taxpayers will have no problem with spending serious cash on dealing with our problem, for no obvious gain to themselves. Sure they love us, the Irish built the roads etc etc

    The prison system in the U.S is a multi-billion dollar industry. Most prisons have capacity quotas, I would imagine they'd be delighted to take our prisoners. Have a read of this http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_prison_state_of_america_20141228


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    So USA would be exporting death basically


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    So USA would be exporting death basically

    Not really - unless the State requires the bodies for some reason.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    magentis wrote: »
    Its obviously that evil bastard in Glasgow that we are talking about here.
    Why should he be able to get out of prison in his mid thirties and probably start a family and live his life after what he has done?

    hear, hear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Hachiko


    A lot of u.s states have outsourced there prison systems to private companies, these would be glad to take our inmates for a fee.

    or even a country like Thailand, i am sure they would love our tax money to send these cretins to the lovely jails they have., the cost of sending them away to a place like that would be a lot less than it costs the tax payer in Ireland/UK to keep them in jail, and feeding the pricks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭johnny osbourne


    waste of a bullet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭Merrion


    Good grief man, do you know nothing?
    You export criminals to Australia, and religious nutters to America.


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