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Boyfriend of 4 months never wants sex....ever

  • 13-04-2015 3:46pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    So, I’ve been with my boyfriend for about 4 months now after going through a breakup last August. I’m 31 and he is turning 30 in June and we both live in within about 15 minutes drive from each other in the same city. In the majority of respects our relationship is great we have good conversation and spend 2-3 days a week together nowadays. He is very generous and caring towards me, always compliments and we have so many things in common when it comes to interests and background. He has recently met my friends and some of my family, all of whom he seems to have both impressed and got on very well with. He is also quite affectionate, moreso than any of my previous bf’s or any of my friends’ bf’s and I’m certainly not left wanting for hand holding, kisses or cuddles...and am loving every minute of it :-) . I think I am growing quite attached over the past number of weeks, bordering on love (though neither of us have said it) as things have been getting more intimate.

    About one month ago we became “official” and since around then he has regularly been around at my place and I at his and we would now frequently sleep together but without having sex, and therein lies my problem. We will normally start cuddling and snogging a while after hopping into bed but he never seems to want to take it any further than that. Although very very affectionate, he seems to be resistant to touch me in a sexual type of way even though we get fairly hot and heavy at it in the bed. If I place his hand on my breast while snoggin in bed he will usually remove it again after 5 or 10 seconds and just go back to a more “innocent” kind of cuddling around my sides, back or tummy. I thought 3-4 months was unusual amount of time before a guy started to bring up sex but then as we weren’t staying over before I didn’t give it much though as we didn’t have the opportunity to have sex anyway.

    Despite being so affectionate and enjoying fairly hot and heavy snogging etc and sleeping next to eachother, it now seems to me that he has no interest in anything more, i.e. having sex and to be honest, I’m starting to go out of my mind with the frustration of getting so so close to having sex several times a week but not just getting it. In terms of attractiveness I’d say both of us a at least reasonably good looking and in shape, he especially as he eats well and exercises more than me but that’s not to say I’m an ugly betty – usually get fair amount of male attention when I’m out. Whats more, I would totally understand if he had worries of erection problems etc but he is always fully erect when we get intimate in bed or on the couch, so it isn’t that. Although I’m usually the type to let the man lead the way I’ve recently over the past few sleepovers tried progressing things towards sex - I have tried initiating sexual touching with him but the few times I’ve touched him there or tried to remove his boxers it’s as if he is uncomfortable with it and he moves himself in closer to me or changes position so i can no longer do it, even though I’m fully naked at this stage. Same if I take his hand and put it on my breasts or “elsewhere”, it doesn’t stay there long and he takes it away . Eventually, after getting snogged out we end up just cuddling up asleep together with him seemingly happy out but me being increasingly frustrated lately. I’m starting to feel like he just sees me as some sort of human teddy bear or comfort blanket that he can cuddle up to sleep with rather than a sexual human being.

    Feeling that he was not going to make any progress himself I came out and asked him what the story was and why he won’t have full sex. He says that he doesn’t see the need to rush things thinks everything is going fine, which is fair enough in itself I suppose but getting a bit long in the tooth now in my opinion. He was quiet adamant that he didn’t have an STI he didn’t want to tell me about even though I felt terrible for asking. I do trust he’s telling the truth as I’ve gotten a very good impression of him from the start and he seems very open to frankly discussing things in other facets of life.

    I like this man dearly and in virtually every other aspect I could envisage myself staying with him for the long haul and the signals I get are that he feels the same way – we regularly talk about the future in terms of “us” and “we”. But he appears to have some sort of “blockage” when it comes to the actual act of sex even though everything else is there. Has anyone else ever experienced a similar problem. Any help is gratefully received.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    I'd say it's simple.

    1. he's gay

    2. He's a virgin or totally inexperienced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Has he had a girlfriend before? Do you know much about him or his background?
    Do you know people in his social circle?
    I am asking this as maybe this might give indication if he is gay but if he getting aroused with foreplay tihs would probably cancel that out?, its a very strange one.
    The only other conclusion I came to was that he may have an STD or the worst case HIV which came into my head also.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    It sounds odd alright. I doubt his gay of he is all over you with kissing and hugging all the time despite the lack of sex. He might well be inexperienced or a virgin though, it might explain it. Maybe you could ask him if that is the case or if he has performance worries, premature ejaculation etc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Hi OP. Is he religious at all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Starscream25


    Hi OP, I thought I was reading my own personal issue there, it's almost identical to a lady I'm seeing, all going great but the sex thing isn't happening, it's as if she doesn't want it, I'm baffled. Unfortunatly I've no advice apart from maybe saying to stick it out if you think he ticks a lot of other boxes, god only knows how difficult it is to find somebody compatible but if it doesn't happen by month 6-7 id strongly consider parting ways. But open to hear what others have to say


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭IlmoNT4


    4 months....12 weeks isnt a huge amount of time to get to know someone....

    Maybe your boyfriend is just sick of sleeping with people after 2-3 dates and just wants to wait and see. ?

    Why not go with the flow and be intimate with him and take things slowly, its more important that you are able to talk about these things, next time your in bed ask him, is it ok if I touch you there. Massage each other, get to know each others bodies.... Not everyone behaves the way most men seem to think they should behave. Some guys are just normal people and they need time to get comfortable with someone touching their bodies. Sex is after all, a very private and intimate act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    He may have erectile dysfunction and is afraid to bring it up, maybe bring it up yourself and suggest he visits his gp about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dog of Tears


    You need to ask him for a specific timeline as to when he's going to want to have sex - is he thinking weeks, months or years?.

    4 months is a bit mad tbh.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    DoT, I really don't think setting a sex "deadline" is a good idea, jeez, talk about putting pressure on a person!

    OP I think you need sit him down and ask him what's wrong. Is it sex drive or libido maybe? But him being aroused and grabby in bed would seem to contradict that somewhat. His statement of not wanting to rush things would be fine if it was 4 weeks - at 4 months that really isn't a credible excuse anymore, it has to be something else. Please make sure though that you ask him in a sensitive and non threatening manner - facing the Spanish Inquisiion is not going to help and will only put him off even more and if he does have sex he might only be doing it out of a sense of obligation rather than

    Men are not the sex crazed oafs that popular culture portrays them as. I am surprised at some of the suggestions here re setting deadlines, suggestions of homosexuality etc. If genders were reversed such suggestions would be decried as pressurising the woman into having sex before she's ready.

    Anywho, some things you should consider asking him:
    -Are you sure he isn't concealing an STD? Ask him again.
    -Are his family religous, would any OTT beleifs or ingrained thinking be putting him off?
    -Do ye have condoms or some other contraception available? Perhaps he has a latex allergy? Discuss contraception concerns with him.
    -Would he just have an over the top fear of pregnancy?
    -Experience, performance or Prem. Ej. worries? reassure him that you are not going to judge and will be happy to just be more intimate regardless of how long or short it might last.
    -Has he any medical issues preventing him from having sex? pain, infections, phimosis etc etc.
    -Has he any psychological hang ups? Hurt in the past, humiliated by an ex etc etc? Was he ever sexually abused.
    -Maybe hes right and just isn't ready for it?? 4 months is a long time to be with someone without sex but sure everyone is unique. Perhaps he does just need more time to warm to the idea?

    That's all I can think of that might be making him stop short of penetrative sex. You should look at these with him. Other than that I don't know,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I would be flabbergasted if he turned out to be gay. He and most of his male friends would be your typical manly men, into their sports, cars the usual, I’ve met a good few of them, seem like normal everyday mainstream guyfriends. He does probably preen himself a bit more than your typical guy though, he uses moisturiser and shaves his chest & underarms it appears, that doesn’t equate to being gay though. I am definitely not getting any “gay vibes” off of him. I don’t think homo or bisexuality is theprob. Lone Stone, he is always fully aroused erection wise when wer intimate in bed so attraction is there. In fact he stays erect for ages afterwards too when we cuddle up so it definitely isnt anything ED related.

    He did mention that he broke up with his ex back in October back when we started going out. They lived together for 2.5 yrs, I’m not keen on asking if they were having sex, I don’t feel it’s appropriate to go digging into the ins and outs of his previous relationships. But at 2.5 yrs I’d be truly amazed, and saddened, if there was none.

    He is from a typical rural farming catholic family, as am I. He said his family used always go to mass but it’s more of a cultural thing, they or he are not religious in any meaningful way, typical weddings and funerals type of guy and I am pretty much the same myself!

    So he stayed at mine last night and I brought up the issue as we snuggled on the couch, asked him was anything wrong and said I found it strange that we routinely get to literally to an inch of having sex but it never happens. I asked was he afraid of getting me pregnant, he knows I have condoms in my room, I showed them to him ages ago to let him know I had them for whenever they were needed. Not afraid or not allergic to anything. Asked again had he any STI or condition he was embarrassed of: assured me he didn’t (seems truthful). Assured me he had no ED or PE worrie. Said was he is not comfortable and just let it happen and no rush. I say grand. No point pressing him if his not ready.

    Then out of the blue about 20 mins later he gets all weird on me. Antsy and fidgety. After a bit of goading ends up telling me that he thinks im very attractive and he wants to jump on me sometimes and that he really likes me but he doesn’t feel he wants to have sex because hed feel disrespectful for “doing that to me”. I told him i don’t see it that way and want us to have sex, theres no question of disrespect or respect. With no other option I agrees to just see and let it happen when it happens as he puts it. I don’t know what to think about it all. I mean, he is such a great, fun guy but I’m finding his attitude to sex increasingly bizarre. Surely if you find someone physically attractive and like them as a person and are their partner sex would be something you would be very much for. I don’t know what to make of him but I want to figure it out.


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  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    After a bit of goading ends up telling me that he thinks im very attractive and he wants to jump on me sometimes and that he really likes me but he doesn’t feel he wants to have sex because hed feel disrespectful for “doing that to me”.

    There's your answer, OP. Look at the language he uses to describe it. Sounds like he thinks its dirty or that sex is degrading to you? Madonna/Whore thing going on maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dog of Tears


    Sounds like he has a really unhealthy attitude towards sex and sees it as something 'dirty'.


    I wouldn't really want that in a partner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    Ugh i'm sorry, I'm not going to be popular with this opinion but I think you should get rid of him. I had this with my ex and it nearly pushed me over the brink. He would always kiss, cuddle me etc and seemed totally obsessed with my appearance, taking photos relentlessly, videos of me doing my make-up. But the whole time we were together I could count on one hand how many times we had sex.

    He never really gave me an explanation and I was more than happy to sit down (and tried frequently) and discuss and hear him out, be patient, understanding.

    The most annoying thing was I felt like he made the decision for both of us. He'd say "oh don't worry, I find you very attractive" as if that was the ONLY thing bothering me, that my ONLY concern was that he was happy, no regard whatsoever for my personal desires.

    He was very big on respecting women, sex was very hush hush in his house growing up and that was the only thing I could put it down to. He'd drool over women on TV ads in a way I hadn't seen a guy do beyond 13 or 14.

    Personally I objected to him not wanting to 'disrespect' me by being intimate, I am a grown woman and able to make my own decisions. I am not saying he should go along with them but refusing to acknowledge that this was a big problem for me really upset me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    First thought I had is that he has possibly been abused in the past. Thread carefully OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Mr.McLovin


    Life is too short to try decipher this guy, sit him down and tell him to spit it out what's going on, if he cant have a honest conversation on top of not giving you a good seeing to, let him go

    good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    Whatever reasons, valid or not, he has causing this issue leads to one main outcome. You're not happy.

    To be honest if I was in your shoes his latest comments would have me rapidly reevaluating if the relationship makes it to 5 months.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    Beginning to sound like he has a classic case of Madonna-Whore Complex.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex

    To be honest I think the suggestions of dumping the guy are a bit premature. i mean sex is important of course in a relationship but if the guy seems to tick all of the other boxes as OP says then would it not be worth trying to work on it and bring him around to the idea that sex between ye is positive?

    I'm going to make another suggestion that might be useful but perhaps it may sound a bit unethical:
    Maybe you could try it on with him when he is after a few drinks and ye're in bed? Perhaps after being out or maybe drink wine with him after dinner so he is a bit tipsy at least when ye get into bed. We all know alcohol reduces inhibitions - perhaps his stated desire to "jump on you" will overpower any MWC reservations he might have. Might doing it once drunk make him see it in a positive light and break the cycle of guilt about "doing sex to" you?
    It would be an interesting experiment to see what happens although ye wouldn't want it to turn into something ye had to rely on for sex to happen. Needless to say, that sort of dependency would not be healthy physically or mentally. Could you try that?

    tl;dr get him drunk and jump on him, lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    tl;dr get him drunk and jump on him, lol

    An Irish solution for an Irish problem.

    He'd never forgive her the morning after. "You dirty Jezebel, you plied me with drink and you tempted me… "

    He might leave her then to find another "nice" girl he can put on a pedestal.

    If he has a Madonna/Whore complex he is unlikely to take responsibility for his own sexuality.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    OP, if you just "wait and see" then you'll always be waiting. Fact is this guy has an unhealthy view of sex, that isn't going to change.

    He either needs to face up to his issues or move on, a normal healthy relationship at your age means SEX! Especially when the relationship is only a few months old!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭LadyAthame


    The image of what you think of as gay and what his sexual orientation is, are in reality are unrelated. Sometimes men insecure in their sexuality compensate. I'm not that's it or if he's gay though, necessarily. Abuse or an emotional issue were he a woman and then people might understand more, talk with him. It could actually be the emotional aspect of your relationship ..how are things that way?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thank you all for your many replies they are food for though.

    We spoke a little about it out walking last evening. I tried to make it clear to him that if he finds me attractive as he says, and I want to have sex too then there should not be any reason not to do it and i wont feel defiled or sullied in any way. He seems more comfortable talking about it openly now but is still apprehensive about actually doing it. After feeling like a fool for pleading with him for a while, i eventually seemed to get through to him and he sorta accepts that at this point we probably should be having sex. So We came to an agreement that next time one of us stays over probably Friday night that we will test the waters at least and give it a try, no expectations or judging and if its uncomfortable we can stop. Happy enough that theres no medical or physical element to it.

    I dont like the idea of plying him with drink its a terrible idea. Neither of us really drink anyway so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭LadyAthame


    Don't force anything or pressure him in anyway. Glad you had a talk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Well things made a substantial improvement over the weekend but thats where the improvements stopped. We went for a weekend away in the north sightseeing, the usual and obviously spent the night over. We talked about what wed do regarding intimacy a few days prior and he seemed to be all for it and talked about how he'd jump on me which was an exciting thought lol!
    Wed a grand ole time out and about but when it came to the bedroom department he never made a move and just did his usual cuddling and snogging thing. Now don't get me wrong, i love that and theres nothign wrong with it but it is always stopping short of sex. I had to make the move to actually progress things a bit, which thankfully paid off.
    He was really apprehensive at first, fidgety etc, but once things got going he was actually very very good he knew exactly what to do and how to do it....twice!! I went asleep in his arms a very happy girl that night thinking we'd turned the corner!
    Now it seems though that it is just back to business as usual for him, these last few nights I was expecting him to make a move all the time but he never takes it beyond the usual snuggling type of stuff. I don't know why because from what I saw he really enjoyed it when we did it. I hate making the first move. All I want is some intimacy that is beyond cuddling is great, but to be honest is it not a bit childish? I'm slow to mention it again as I feel like I'm beginning to pester him which I don't want to do.
    He is still fully hard when he cuddles so I doubt its a sex drive issue either. Maybe I am expecting too much too soon? Maybe he needs time to get used to the concept of sex?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    he may have a madonna/whore complex


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    The man is 30 years old, the concept of sex shouldnt be something he needs to get used to. You both obviously have different expectations for this relationship, may be time to back out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    I think the next time you're cuddling you should make the move to progress things again. See if you get the same result.

    Why do you hate making the first move? He clearly finds you attractive and desires you, as you've said he's erect when you cuddle etc. Surely him holding you and pressing his erect penis against you is kinda the first move anyway, no?

    Would it really be that big an issue if you were to be the one that does so in future? In a lot of couples one of the people are the one that makes the move to progress things as the other is uncomfortable doing so for whatever reason. Usually with time the other person becomes more comfortable with doing so and will more frequently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    I think you're either going to have to get on with it and be less concerned about being the initiator at least for the next little while, or you're going to have to accept that you'll never have the sex life you want with this chap and call it a day.

    Those are the two options as far as I can see.

    So at this point you know that the sex can be great - so in that sense you're already miles ahead of lots of couples out there. When you get down to business he has no hang ups and knows what he's doing, the attraction is strong on both sides, physically it's all good in the hood.

    Why don't you continue to bring things forward from kissing to sex for the next couple times you're in bed together? There's a chance that once sex becomes a regular part of the relationship, he'll become more comfortable and less self conscious about being more forward about things.

    There's also the chance that he won't, but you're not going to know that until you try are you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    What kind of language do you use when you discuss sex with him OP? Are you using words like "I want to have sex with you" or "I want you to **** me"?

    If it's a mild case of madonna / whore complex, more blunt language might help shake him out of seeing you as the former?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I dont mind initiating now and again, like several times I tried to get him to touch me sexually but he would recoil from it back to cuddle type touching. It just is a bit frustrating to have to do it all the time and be effectivly rejected even though i know he isn't rejecting me as such as he always says how much he likes me and attractive I am.

    When we talk about sex and the issues surrounding it I dont use any crude language or anything just talk about it in a calm respectful way as i think thats the best. I dont want him to feel pressured or that im on at him over it. when we did have a heart to heart about it he did reluctantly talk about past relationships and that he and his ex did have sex a lot at the start but that that was different as he sees me differently somehow and doesnt want to disrespect me by doing that "to me". all i can do is reassure him that its a good thing for us.

    .maybe i will continue to initiate like i did and he will get used to having sex and get over the hangups. i was delighted that we made some progress last weekend. I just hope it will become more regular. At least now I know that he is sexually attracted to me and enjoys it rather than what i feared which was that he only enjoyed the type of intimacy where he mmight see me as a sort of comfort blanket or teddy to snuggle up to. Nothing wrong with that, i love it, but there has to be a sexual element too.

    I really want this to work. i don;t want to lose him as he is 100% in every other way, funny, caring affectionate and gets on great with my friends and family and they think hes a real decent sort too. i just want and hope that we can have a normal sex life its not too much to ask for. over the past week i feel im really starting to fall for him in a big way despite the lack of sex. I am surprised i always thought that it was only women who had reduced sex drive when you hear of bfs/husbands complaining of no sex and or women complaining that their bf/hubby wont get off them. id imagine my problem is rare enough.

    maybe i should ask him to visit a doctor just in case theres some hormone problem or deficiency causing this? i know its probably not. Hes not stressed at work he loves his job and loves telling me about what he did in such and such a place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    Maybe you could explain it in a way that helps him see sex differently. That you want to show the feelings you have for him in the bedroom aswell as out of the bedroom. Out of bed you do things to make each other happy and express how you feel about a person, and you would like also to do that too through sex, make him happy and express yourself physically with him, to connect with him physically and emotionally, so sex is not just F%$ing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    He's a 30 year old man, she really shouldn't have to convince him to have sex. Two 30 year olds should be having sex like mad really cos they are young but at the same time mature and experienced enough to be confident about sex.

    I think he might have been hurt by his ex or something and needs time to get used to sex again. Did he say anything about how things were with his ex? From the ops descriptions at least he seems OK with sex when it actually occurs. I think he just needs time. It would be foolish to end a relationship now that he has given it up and it was good, give the lad a chance to get into the groove of it.

    What I'd be curious about is this, if ye hadn't had sex in say, 4.5 months, then how was he getting his "release" so to speak? Do you know whether he **** a lot and might that be reducing his desire to have actual sex? Pretty much all fellas need to "let it off" now and again whether through sex or masturbation. Myself included


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    He's a 30 year old man, she really shouldn't have to convince him to have sex. Two 30 year olds should be having sex like mad really cos they are young but at the same time mature and experienced enough to be confident about sex.

    I think he might have been hurt by his ex or something and needs time to get used to sex again. Did he say anything about how things were with his ex? From the ops descriptions at least he seems OK with sex when it actually occurs. I think he just needs time. It would be foolish to end a relationship now that he has given it up and it was good, give the lad a chance to get into the groove of it.

    What I'd be curious about is this, if ye hadn't had sex in say, 4.5 months, then how was he getting his "release" so to speak? Do you know whether he **** a lot and might that be reducing his desire to have actual sex? Pretty much all fellas need to "let it off" now and again whether through sex or masturbation. Myself included

    Shouldn't have to convince him to have sex but might be nice to be there helping him over this issue. It might be great for the relationship if you can work on it together. Like ask him what can you do to help, so it's not all his thing to fix. An you want to work on it for him to enjoy a healthy sex life as much as you want to.
    I'd be surprised if he was a porn addict or **** 3 times a day by the way he gets hot and heavy and then stops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    Is the only time you'd sex the time you'd a night away together?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    Well it is very odd I find that he is affectionate, cuddly, getting aroused and snogging and then pulling back just when things ought to be getting "giggidy". It's like a mental block of some sort.

    EDIT: Prob not but just thinking might it all be some weird teasting act thing to drive her mad with frustration that he gets a kick out of? unlikely he could keep that up for nearly half a year though.

    Just shooting from the hip here but is it possible he's been stung before sexwise and may be unconciously trying to protect himself from the possibility of future hurt by avoiding getting too emotionally attached through the bonding that sex in a loving relationship results in? But it seems ye are mad about eachother and already quite attached so it doesn't really make much sense when viewed through that lense.

    Well gsi I get the impression that it is just the once they've had sex, on the weeknd break away. 4 and a half months into a relationship is a long time to wait. Now whether it was the fact he was away from home made him more comfortable or maybe OP made more effort to initiate it. I certainly hope OP didn't guilt him into it or make him feel he had to do it because they were away, that would be counterproductive.

    Whatever it is I hope you two can work it out. he sounds like an good man and you have been very understanding thus far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    I dont mind initiating now and again, like several times I tried to get him to touch me sexually but he would recoil from it back to cuddle type touching. It just is a bit frustrating to have to do it all the time and be effectivly rejected even though i know he isn't rejecting me as such as he always says how much he likes me and attractive I am.
    This constant rejection is going to start chipping away at your self esteem before you know it.

    It really seems like you've done all that you can do in this situation.
    You've made it clear to him that you want sex more often and that you want him to initiate it as well.
    The issue seems to be on his side and the fact that he sees having sex with you as "disrespecting you".
    He needs to talk to someone professionally and try and work this issue out for the sake of the relationship.
    And he's got to care enough about you and the relationship to go and do this himself.

    If he doesn't have the desire to go and do this, then in my opinion I think it would be best for you to breakup with him.
    You deserve better than to be stuck in a sexless relationship.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi Op, from a male perspective this is not normal male behaviour whatsover. To get down to basics, if he avoids the most natural thing between man and woman and when you are so eager to have it, he obviously has some deep rooted problem.
    I cannot tell you what the problem is as I don't know him but I will say that from personal experience of me seeing someone elses (female friend)with their ex spouse it did not end well at all as he had a deep rooted sexual issue that was unlawful.
    She describes her relationship as very similar to yours from the onset and all I can say is that it ended very very badly. She was fooled by him for years but all he was doing was using her to hide his condition.
    This may not be the case with your BF but my advise would be to drop him as soon as and find a guy that wants you sexually just as much as you do him..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP it's my guess that your BF has been affected by his last beak-up. My BF was similar and I really didn't know what was going on. Turned out he was very afraid of getting intimate because he had a messy ending with his previous girlfriend. He kept telling me he was fine with them finishing but I realised he still felt guilty for hurting her even though she wasn't that nice to him in the end. My advice would be to wait it out , he sounds like a nice person and they can be hard to find. About 7 months in we were like bunnies.. It was worth the wait !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    4 months in is very early to be having such fundamental relationship issues.

    This should be a honeymoon period.

    As someone else mentioned this constant rejection will chip away at you. You've already made clear to him that you are unhappy with the current situation yet each and every time the same thing happens.

    I know you said he is a 100% guy but clearly he isn't, this is a huge issue and unless it gets addressed properly the relationship is doomed.

    Only you know if you want to stay in this relationship and work at such a big problem so early on.

    Personally for me I don't think I could take the anti climax EVERY time foreplay is initiated. It would just suck at my soul too much and at 4 months in I'm not sure I'd want to invest so heavily in a relationship in the early stageS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Not G.R



    I'm going to make another suggestion that might be useful but perhaps it may sound a bit unethical:
    Maybe you could try it on with him when he is after a few drinks and ye're in bed? Perhaps after being out or maybe drink wine with him after dinner so he is a bit tipsy at least when ye get into bed. We all know alcohol reduces inhibitions - perhaps his stated desire to "jump on you" will overpower any MWC reservations he might have. Might doing it once drunk make him see it in a positive light and break the cycle of guilt about "doing sex to" you?
    It would be an interesting experiment to see what happens although ye wouldn't want it to turn into something ye had to rely on for sex to happen. Needless to say, that sort of dependency would not be healthy physically or mentally. Could you try that?

    tl;dr get him drunk and jump on him, lol

    I really don't want to de-rail your thread op and hope everything works out for you.

    I'd just like to point out that this is, without a doubt, the worst advice I've ever seen on this forum. If you had suggested a man do this to a woman to overcome her sexual issues it would have caused a sh*tstorm of inconceivable proportions and you would likey be banned for a very long time. And rightly so. I think it shouldn't be tolerated going in the other direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    OP, maybe you and he aren't sexually compatible. Perhaps he is asexual and has no desire for sex. There is nothing wrong with this but it isn't what you want. It's a pity you like him in so many other ways but I would advise you to end the relationship and get your confidence back. If you stay with him your confidence will wane.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    OP I'm actually going through something like this myself at the moment with my gf. And my situation is very similar to yours, I am mad about her in so many ways but we've recently reached a point where sex has been discussed and there is a bit of a problem in that part of the relationship. So beleive me, I know how you feel, it is just frustrating to be missing such an intimate thing with someone you love so dearly and even though you know you could get it elsewhere, it crushes your heart to think of what you would have to give up to get it.

    We have had a talk about it though and there does seem to be way to face the issues at a pace that suits us. My advice is that you do seem to have made progress, maybe it is worth the effort to work at it rather than bail out at the first hiccup.

    I don't know how you are getting on but good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP his behaviour is very bizarre.
    From what you said in an earlier post he seems have an unhealthy attitude to sex
    After a bit of goading ends up telling me that he thinks im very attractive and he wants to jump on me sometimes and that he really likes me but he doesn’t feel he wants to have sex because hed feel disrespectful for “doing that to me”.

    I am kind of wondering is he into hard core porn or prostitutes or something? I'd probably be walking away by now if it hadn't happened. As another poster said that rejection will eventually chip away at your self esteem and confidence.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin



    Then out of the blue about 20 mins later he gets all weird on me. Antsy and fidgety. After a bit of goading ends up telling me that he thinks im very attractive and he wants to jump on me sometimes and that he really likes me but he doesn’t feel he wants to have sex because hed feel disrespectful for “doing that to me”. I told him i don’t see it that way and want us to have sex, theres no question of disrespect or respect. With no other option I agrees to just see and let it happen when it happens as he puts it. I don’t know what to think about it all. I mean, he is such a great, fun guy but I’m finding his attitude to sex increasingly bizarre. Surely if you find someone physically attractive and like them as a person and are their partner sex would be something you would be very much for. I don’t know what to make of him but I want to figure it out.

    this is a madonna whore complex. unquestionably


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    It's possible he's asexual!!! Just because he has an erection and finds you attractive doesn't mean he desires sex. He might be interested in romance but not actual sex. Asexuality is not a disorder. He could be afraid to tell you for fear that you'll break up with him, maybe trying to prolong a phase of romance. You should speak to him about it, but there's no shame in you breaking it off if he is asexual.

    But he might not be asexual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea


    sorry op, but i wouldnt waste my time! even if he can sort through his issues it could take ages, fcuk that tbh. 4 months is a ridiculous length of time to be with someone and not have sex! sorry if that sounds harsh :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    It's now 5 months!! A bf and sex once in 5 months, not my idea of fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    hello again. thanks for all your messages i said id fill you in.
    Well things in that department have been on the up and up over the past few weeks and it seems he has gotten past whatever hang up he had about sex and we now have sex regularly enough, we sleep over at eachothers places 1 or 2 nights a week and most of the time we end up doing it unless one of us is tired or something.
    About a month ago he was still initiating cuddles but stopping short of progressing to sex even though we had already done it once when I initiated. I just told myself that I need to just initiate it and make him see that I want sex and there's nothing to be guilty or ashamed of. He would get all nervous and jittery when I'd initiate at first but seems quite comfortable now. He seems more relaxed of late and has taken to initiating touching me intimately but still not initiating sex but is not apprehensive anymore when i initiate.

    All in all im a very happy girl! not frustratedgirl anymore!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    Woohooo, good for you, keep praising rewarding the positive behaviours in him sex wise and it'll get better.
    Congrats!
    I think my gf would leave me if though I only put out once a week!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    gsi300024v wrote: »
    Woohooo, good for you, keep praising rewarding the positive behaviours in him sex wise and it'll get better.
    Congrats!
    I think my gf would leave me if though I only put out once a week!

    Glad to hear he came around OP (pun intended, :pac:).

    He's a man not a dog, Gsi. But yeah I get the point.

    I think once a week is a fairly regular frequency tbh. I mean, if you're doing it every day wouldn't it just get boring and end up getting pissed off of it?
    Once a week and then it's something to look forward to as it lets that little bit of wanting build.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    ! times a week during honeymoon period, what will it get down to, once a month? They've no kids no morgage etc to slow down sex life. Wonder what average is for this age group in a relationship?
    Cognitive dissonance at work , once a week is fine. Isn't it boring knowing you're doing it once a week, so it's wed you've sex and you think right, that's it until next week.
    A cople did a report on having sex everyday for one year. It was interesting reading. I like how they said it meant they'd to make time for themselves as a couple everyday, just them, doing nothing else but making each other happy, connecting, prioritizing themselves, not books family, online etc.
    Maybe it's all relative, you've gone from non to once a week, guessing you hope it'll increase, and it might, or might not.


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