Red Dead Redemption 2

RonanP77

I got my hands in a brush for the horse, now all I want is a fishing rod. The main mission can wait, I'm hunting, crafting, gambling and hopefully before long, fishing.

Varik

Playing the prologue and just completing stuff, notice 2 things.

Swimming

John like in RDR1 can't swim, I'd go out in the water to fetch something and almost instantly die with him. Stamina drops very fast and then health until death, if your feet can't touch the bottom you're screwed.

Drawings

John's stick men are a big drop from Arthurs' artistic endeavours

Stone Deaf 4evr

Been plugging away at this nicely now, I'm about one or two missions from the end of chapter 5. have to say, I'm really glad I gave it a second chance, the story kicks into gear rightly

from when you get to Rhodes, and then on to Saint Denis, loving how the gang is starting to unravel, along with dutch's sanity, and the trip to Guarma was an unusual, if somewhat short lived diversion

. Only quibble at the moment is there was a run of missions one after the other where it wasnt possible to do a manual save, Thats a real pet hate of mine, as I generally try and just do a mission or so an evening, rather than marathoning it.

Stone Deaf 4evr

Well, the main story is done and dusted, and now I'm through epilogue part 1, and into part 2.

What a triumph of a game, I cant believe I nearly shelved it early on, As I think back on it now, the story is a true epic, from the initial introduction of the gang while holed up in the freezing mountains after a job gone bad, to the various camps and settlements, and gradual unraveling of everything by the end of chapter 6. Even the slightly odd change of scenery midway through the game is memorable enough in its own way, and I can't think of the last time a game generated a genuine emotion / feeling of regret like I felt at the end of chapter 6, further compounded by moments of genuine vulnerability when Arthur speaks with the Nun and during his time with Rains Fall.

Despite all its problems, and it certainly has some, its just been magnificent, The voice acting, the animations, the musical score that accompanies some moments, There's a level of detail here that I dont think we'll see again for quite some time.

weiland79

Something bugging me about this since i picked it up again. Im constantly having to adjust the camera with the R3 stick so that it sits directly behind Arthur. Its quite annoying and doesnt feel natural to constantly make these small adjustments.

Damien360

weiland79 wrote: »

Something bugging me about this since i picked it up again. Im constantly having to adjust the camera with the R3 stick so that it sits directly behind Arthur. Its quite annoying and doesnt feel natural to constantly make these small adjustments.

I played this my original PS4 (until it died) and new Pro. On original I had no issues with the camera. On the pro, the camera slowly floated across to a new position and I would have to adjust camera back. Always to the left when behind Arthur. Controller was new so can’t be that. And no other game did the same. Is this what you are seeing ?

wotzgoingon

Must be a Playstation thing. As I don't remember having to do that on the One X.

The Phantom Pain

Yeah, I don't remember issues with the camera either.

weiland79

Damien360 wrote: »

weiland79 wrote: »

Something bugging me about this since i picked it up again. Im constantly having to adjust the camera with the R3 stick so that it sits directly behind Arthur. Its quite annoying and doesnt feel natural to constantly make these small adjustments.

I played this my original PS4 (until it died) and new Pro. On original I had no issues with the camera. On the pro, the camera slowly floated across to a new position and I would have to adjust camera back. Always to the left when behind Arthur. Controller was new so can’t be that. And no other game did the same. Is this what you are seeing ?

Actually mine is over to the right. Ill try and explain it better.
When im going along a trail or road when i have to steer left or right with the left stick i also have to compensate with the right stick to position the camera directly behind Arthur, otherwise its always just over his right shoulder and i can't get a good look at whats coming up ahead.

Sad Professor

weiland79 wrote: »

Actually mine is over to the right. Ill try and explain it better.
When im going along a trail or road when i have to steer left or right with the left stick i also have to compensate with the right stick to position the camera directly behind Arthur, otherwise its always just over his right shoulder and i can't get a good look at whats coming up ahead.

Your controller is the problem. Test it with another to confirm. In the meantime, adjusting the in-game dead zone settings might help a bit.

Varik

Skyhunter wrote: »

Can optional honour story missions be replayed without depending on gamesaves? Looking for the "lending a hand" achievement which is at 90% but dont want to play the story through again just yet.

That's miss-able, you need to do all of them in 1 playthough.

Replaying the "Home Improvement for Beginners" mission can glitch the trophy on PS4 not sure about Xbox. Might have been patched out I think it only appeared with the last patch or so.

The Phantom Pain

Varik wrote: »

That's miss-able, you need to do all of them in 1 playthough.

Replaying the "Home Improvement for Beginners" mission can glitch the trophy on PS4 not sure about Xbox. Might have been patched out I think it only appeared with the last patch or so.

'Home improvement for Beginners' comes a while after the final mission that nabs the 'Lending a Hand' trophy though? So how can it glitch it? If one is replaying Home 'Improvement for Beginners' and the trophy for 'lending a hand' hasn't popped by then then it's been missed already.

Varik

The glitch is that it unlocks a trophy it shouldn't, not that blocks you getting it.

Juglooma

FYI Red Dead is 10e on PSN for the next 2 days. After that it goes back up to 30e .
I just got it again yesterday to play through as I don't have my xbox with me.

B.A._Baracus

I am ashamed to admit that I still have this sealed as a christmas gift from Christmas. I dunno. Couldn't wait to play the first one and played it day one.

I've heard different opinions on it. Some say its good others say the first was better. Whats everyones opinion?

087brain21

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I am ashamed to admit that I still have this sealed as a christmas gift from Christmas. I dunno. Couldn't wait to play the first one and played it day one.

I've heard different opinions on it. Some say its good others say the first was better. Whats everyones opinion?

yes shame on you hang your head in shame :P

tbh imo the first one is better because it was so ground breaking only GTA done that kinda game before
now rdr2 is brilliant so detailed and the missions can be exciting but the first one edges it
play it for a week and see how you feel

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I am ashamed to admit that I still have this sealed as a christmas gift from Christmas. I dunno. Couldn't wait to play the first one and played it day one.

I've heard different opinions on it. Some say its good others say the first was better. Whats everyones opinion?

I'm going as far as now saying it's one of the most overrated games ever conceived.

The Nal

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I am ashamed to admit that I still have this sealed as a christmas gift from Christmas. I dunno. Couldn't wait to play the first one and played it day one.

I've heard different opinions on it. Some say its good others say the first was better. Whats everyones opinion?

I played it twice. Its utterly incredible in parts and utterly infuriating in parts. I enjoyed it more the 2nd time around as I skipped a lot of the fluff.

johnny_ultimate

I’m not exaggerating when I say it’s one of the worst games I’ve played in years. Now that’s largely down to avoiding most of the real crap, so I’m not saying it’s one of the worst games out there - just that I’ve personally played at any great length. But genuinely I felt it was a mechanical and artistic mess of a game: a technical marvel with rare flashes of brilliance, but with so many fundamental and ridiculous problems in areas like mission design, basic mechanics and narrative that I couldn’t in good conscience recommend it. It’s a game that wants to be everything, and ends up not being anything particularly interesting beyond a marvel in graphical fidelity. Sadly that can’t sustain a 60+ hour game that feels like triple that.

weiland79

I keep falling asleep whilst playing it.

I asked a question in the online thread yesterday but it seems to be a ghost town over there. Is anyone playing online or have they made a balls of it?

Stone Deaf 4evr

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I am ashamed to admit that I still have this sealed as a christmas gift from Christmas. I dunno. Couldn't wait to play the first one and played it day one.

I've heard different opinions on it. Some say its good others say the first was better. Whats everyones opinion?

I started it, played the opening chapter and then Lost interest, after about 2 months had passed, I came back to it, and chipped away at it slowly, a story mission (or stranger mission) or two at a time. I think that might be the optimal way to play it, as it doesn't have the emergent chaos that a Grand theft Auto game has. Its very much a western simulator, and the more you embrace the slower nature of some of it, the more rewarding you'll find it.
personally, I think it has some of the best storytelling in any game - ever. I wont go into a long post about it, but it stands to me, as Rockstars finest work.

dr.kenneth noisewater

If you have the game I dont see why you wouldn't give it a shot. I enjoyed it but found it frustrating at times.

The Phantom Pain

Varik wrote: »

The glitch is that it unlocks a trophy it shouldn't, not that blocks you getting it.

Oh...

JimBurnley

It's a strange one. I got it when it first came out and played non-stop for 2-3 weeks every night. Felt like I was really enjoying it at the time. But then I remember getting frustrated by a mission and some hunting tasks, then I got distracted by another game - many months later I've not put it back on once and don't have a huge inclination to

The Phantom Pain

I never got the criticism of it being 'slow'.
I got used to that pace and enjoyed the open world, especially hunting and fishing and stranger missions. That's really where the game shines - in its open world and attention to detail.
What I grew fed up with is the lack of fast travel (player shouldn't be forced to explore your world) and the tutorial-like nature of the main missions. Tutorials are supposed to be at the beginning of the game where you learn the basic mechanics so that you can implement them in main missions as second nature but because Rockstar used the main campaign as an animations showcase every. single. mission needed the game to walk you through it because every single action Arthur took required completely different controls. Playing this game without HUD would be a nightmare.

SureYWouldntYa

Juglooma wrote: »

FYI Red Dead is 10e on PSN for the next 2 days. After that it goes back up to 30e .
I just got it again yesterday to play through as I don't have my xbox with me.

Coming up as €39.99 for me? €10 is stupid cheap, can get €15 cash in CEX for the physical

Stone Deaf 4evr

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

I never got the criticism of it being 'slow'.
I got used to that pace and enjoyed the open world, especially hunting and fishing and stranger missions. That's really where the game shines - in its open world and attention to detail.
What I grew fed up with is the lack of fast travel (player shouldn't be forced to explore your world) and the tutorial-like nature of the main missions. Tutorials are supposed to be at the beginning of the game where you learn the basic mechanics so that you can implement them in main missions as second nature but because Rockstar used the main campaign as an animations showcase every. single. mission needed the game to walk you through it because every single action Arthur took required completely different controls. Playing this game without HUD would be a nightmare.

I think the 'slow' complaint comes from how at times, arthur is forced to walk at an absolute snails pace through camp / to an objective. I can see why they did it, as it would completely break immersion (this probably isnt the correct descriptor - maybe 'cinematic vision') to have you sprinting around everywhere, jumping on boxes, standing on campfires like you see in pretty much every other videogame. This forced pace is jarring when comparing it to what gamers are used to - getting from point A to point B as quickly as possible, then mashing the 'skip cutscene' button to get back to the shooting.
Once I accepted that this is the pace they've intended, I found it a bit easier to live with.

Penn

The smallest quality of life additions would have made the game far more enjoyable. Instead there was far too much of a focus on pseudo-realism, making the controls a mess as you only have so many buttons to do a lot of unnecessary (to the player) yet absolutely required (to the character) actions, needless maintenance systems making inventory a mess, and what amounts to punishment for trying to step outside the lines of what the game wants you to do.

It focused so much on realism that the most real thing the game portrays is that living in the Wild West wasn't fun.

The Nal

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

I never got the criticism of it being 'slow'.
I got used to that pace and enjoyed the open world, especially hunting and fishing and stranger missions. That's really where the game shines - in its open world and attention to detail.
What I grew fed up with is the lack of fast travel (player shouldn't be forced to explore your world) and the tutorial-like nature of the main missions. Tutorials are supposed to be at the beginning of the game where you learn the basic mechanics so that you can implement them in main missions as second nature but because Rockstar used the main campaign as an animations showcase every. single. mission needed the game to walk you through it because every single action Arthur took required completely different controls. Playing this game without HUD would be a nightmare.

Yeah agree with all that. Had no issue with it being slow, its a western! Its heartbreaking though when you travel 10 minutes on horseback to start a mission, get 2 minutes of generic cut scenes and then have to travel ten minutes on horseback to start the mission, a lot of times back to the same area you were at. No fast travel is a crazy decision.

2nd time around is quicker. #Don'tHelpRainsFall

maximoose

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Coming up as €39.99 for me? €10 is stupid cheap, can get €15 cash in CEX for the physical

Yeah, €39.99 for me

€10 a typo??