Ultra rare 7 yr old merc for e100k

goochy

sorry no good at providing link ! www.beshoffmotors.ie have managed to come up trumps again . by finding a very rare original irish 2008 cl 65 amg . e400k new and now a quarter of that price with only 34k mls - some depreciation ! big money for a 7 yr old car but hand built and signed amg engine and lovely colour scheme . much nicer car than similar priced astons and bentleys
wonder who bought it new .?

h3000

http://www.beshoffmotors.ie/viewanad.php?ad_id=1234641

Nice car alright

goz83

Mad money. There is a 2014 E220 sport just sold at annesley williams for a little over 100k. Depressingly, it is a diesel. I don't think I could spend that money on a car unless I had a gold dispensing ATM machine in my kitchen.

MuppetCheck

goz83 wrote: »

Mad money. There is a 2014 E220 sport just sold at annesley williams for a little over 100k.

Fcuk me...that's absolutely ridiculous money for a a car like that, no matter what the spec.

goz83

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Fcuk me...that's absolutely ridiculous money for a a car like that, no matter what the spec.

Absolutely. I nearly choked when I seen it outside the garage with the price tag in the window. I would be just as happy in the 2013 E200 for €35k. But I reckon I would buy a new kia sportage instead from down the road :pac:

goochy

how could a e220 cost e100k ? do u mean s350 dsl?

h3000

goochy wrote: »

how could a e220 cost e100k ? do u mean s350 dsl?

E Class price list. The Most expensive E220 is €57k

http://www.mercedes-benz.ie/content/media_library/ireland/mpc_ireland/passenger_cars/new_cars/PriceLists/e-class_w212_20110301-new.object-Single-MEDIA.tmp/E-ClassSaloonW212IncOps20150303.pdf

HungryJoey

I can't think of a worse way to spend €400k and loose €300k in 7 years.

Nice car though.

mailforkev

Great car but mental price.

I've seen one of them around the Donnybrook area a good bit. Probably the same one, there's hardly two in the country is there?

Was always driven by some older guy, didn't recognise him.

I see Beshoff has a CL63 for almost half the price of the 65, that would do me just fine. Or if you really want a V12 he has a S600 for only 35k.

power pants

my next door neighbour has the exact same but it is a 6.3 litre.

Same colour and spec

VeVeX

I couldn't buy a car off a garage whom writes ads in caps.

Chemical Byrne

of course the price tag on this car, when new or at present, it simply isn't even remotely related to the actual cost of making and custom building of the car. Its just a regular merc with a few 10,000s worth of performance and luxury parts thrown in. The price is simply based on the fact that there are people out there with more money than sense!

mickdw

VeVeX wrote: »

I couldn't buy a car off a garage whom writes ads in caps.

Ya, its so much better to buy off donedeal from a lad with poor english and and his photos taken at night.

ba_barabus

2008 reg for the cheap tax

blastman

VeVeX wrote: »

I couldn't buy a car off a garage whom writes ads in caps.

They really, really need a proofreader, too!

VeVeX

mickdw wrote: »

Ya, its so much better to buy off donedeal from a lad with poor english and and his photos taken at night.

Is it? Wouldn't be my cup of tea!

porsche959

Personally, to me it's 'just' a high end Merc with a super engine. If in the market for a €100k motor, I'd go for a Ferrari 360 or 430 (100k probably wouldn't be enough for the more recent 458). But each to their own!

porsche959

Chemical Byrne wrote: »

of course the price tag on this car, when new or at present, it simply isn't even remotely related to the actual cost of making and custom building of the car. Its just a regular merc with a few 10,000s worth of performance and luxury parts thrown in. The price is simply based on the fact that there are people out there with more money than sense!

"The price is simply based on the fact that there are people out there with more money than sense"

And thank heaven for that, otherwise our roads would be even fuller than they currently are of 1.6D BoreMobile Econoboxes.

colm_mcm

19,000 Vrt refund on export

corcaigh1

ba_barabus wrote: »

2008 reg for the cheap tax

Probably still pay big tax tho..

ba_barabus

corcaigh1 wrote: »

Probably still pay big tax tho..

Over 2k.

It would actually be cheaper on the old system. Not that it actually matters on such a car really.

porsche959

Sure you'd want to be mad paying dat amount of tax, put a daysul in it or convert to the LPG. :pac:

bladebrew

It's interesting to see the low amount of petrol engines, only 19 cars out of 72 are petrol, Bentley, Ferrari and Porsche save the day a bit,
I know a guy who drives about 1km to work and basically nowhere else and he even bought a diesel?!

porsche959

bladebrew wrote: »

It's interesting to see the low amount of petrol engines, only 19 cars out of 72 are petrol, Bentley, Ferrari and Porsche save the day a bit,
I know a guy who drives about 1km to work and basically nowhere else and he even bought a diesel?!

There are diesel Porsches these days, and even diesel Maseratis. If you ask me, anyone who buys one wants hitting over the head with a large stick.

ba_barabus

porsche959 wrote: »

There are diesel Porsches these days, and even diesel Maseratis. If you ask me, anyone who buys one wants hitting over the head with a large stick.

Yes and no. I had a neighbour who used to do a 1km round trip to work daily in an A7 TDIIIIII. I walked quicker than she drove. But for someone who loves driving and covers miles a Ghibli diesel would be a great choice

goochy

Diesel ghibli supposed to be rubbish something like bmw 640d gc much better

Red Kev

colm_mcm wrote: »

19,000 Vrt refund on export

Not much use exporting it. Same cars in the UK start at £40,000, (about €55,000), there's also a black edition with 680bhp for £59,999 or €83,000.


German ones start at €50-55,000.

billy few mates

I saw someone pull up at valet parking at the hotel I was staying in last weekend in a 6.3 litre black convertible version of that car, it sounded absolutely beautiful. The youngsters doing the parking were practically jostling with one another to park the car, eventually one of them got behind the wheel while we were waiting for our car to arrive, he left it a couple of minutes (maybe to wait until the owner was well indoors) then gunned it slightly as he pulled off, he then took a right down a side street to the car park one block away and just after he vanished around the corner we heard this glorious sound echoing around the city streets as he opened it up, it sounded like an F1 racing through the streets of Monte Carlo.
Beautiful....

Comhrá

"2008 Mercedes-Benz CL Class 65 AMG BI-TURBO (603 BHP).1 OWNER//MASSAVE SPEC//NEARLY €400K NEW. IRISH CAR WITH FULL MERCEDES SERVICE HISTORY. TAILORED FINANCE PACKAGES AVAILABLE. TRADE IN'S WELCOME. OPEN 7 DAYS."

What a shame they couldn't get someone who can spell properly and use punctuation properly to type up their advert.

Looks a pretty unprofessional attempt at advertising their car.

Desolation Of Smug

tippman1 wrote: »

"2008 Mercedes-Benz CL Class 65 AMG BI-TURBO (603 BHP).1 OWNER//MASSAVE SPEC//NEARLY €400K NEW. IRISH CAR WITH FULL MERCEDES SERVICE HISTORY. TAILORED FINANCE PACKAGES AVAILABLE. TRADE IN'S WELCOME. OPEN 7 DAYS."

What a shame they couldn't get someone who can spell properly and use punctuation properly to type up their advert.

Looks a pretty unprofessional attempt at advertising their car.

Especially a 100k car..."It's only massave.."

quadrifoglio verde

Say what you want about the dealer lads but he'd be one of the few I'd be happy buying off, he does stand behind the cars he sells.

Fair play also to the person who bought this back in 08, bet his balls aren't as big now as they were then....I'm guessing it was a property developer

Zubeneschamali

MuppetCheck wrote: »

that's absolutely ridiculous money for a a car like that, no matter what the spec.

Perhaps you need to read the ad again, where else will you find "MASSAVE" spec?

ofcork

billy few mates wrote: »

I saw someone pull up at valet parking at the hotel I was staying in last weekend in a 6.3 litre black convertible version of that car, it sounded absolutely beautiful. The youngsters doing the parking were practically jostling with one another to park the car, eventually one of them got behind the wheel while we were waiting for our car to arrive, he left it a couple of minutes (maybe to wait until the owner was well indoors) then gunned it slightly as he pulled off, he then took a right down a side street to the car park one block away and just after he vanished around the corner we heard this glorious sound echoing around the city streets as he opened it up, it sounded like an F1 racing through the streets of Monte Carlo.
Beautiful....

That was probably an sl as there is no convertible cl,wouldnt trust those guys with the parking!

Hachiko

goz83 wrote: »

Mad money. There is a 2014 E220 sport just sold at annesley williams for a little over 100k. Depressingly, it is a diesel. I don't think I could spend that money on a car unless I had a gold dispensing ATM machine in my kitchen.

100k on a diesel car, just no.

who ever bought that is not right up stairs.

Hachiko

Chemical Byrne wrote: »

of course the price tag on this car, when new or at present, it simply isn't even remotely related to the actual cost of making and custom building of the car. Its just a regular merc with a few 10,000s worth of performance and luxury parts thrown in. The price is simply based on the fact that there are people out there with more money than sense!

that car is not a regular merc by any means, how many cars have hand built v12 engines? and thats just the tip of the iceberg

Hachiko

porsche959 wrote: »

There are diesel Porsches these days, and even diesel Maseratis. If you ask me, anyone who buys one wants hitting over the head with a large stick.

Lexus had some sense at least to stop making them.

Voodoomelon

It's a tough one. I love it, what a car. But as someone mentioned above, it's a CL500 body with lots of lovely stuff attached. Bespoke interior yes, hand built V12 yes, unique alloys and body kit yes, carbon ceramics and virtually every extra yes. But a €280,000 premium over a standard CL500, not a chance.

This kind of mental price almost makes sense when it's new, as you're paying for a brand new, utterly exclusive model that stands out at the time. Because it's new, it can stand shoulder to shoulder with the big boys.

But when it's 7 years old, that premium is lost. The fact that it was overpriced when new, for what it actually physically is doesn't count for much when second hand.

It is super rare, but what also is super rare is someone with €100k to blow and they arrive home with a 7 year old CL to show the neighbours. You'd really want to be into your Mercs to blow that kind of dough. Not sure what Beshoffs paid for it, but I wouldn't be offering more than €70k-€80k and even then...

PrettyBoy

Anyone that's willing to spend €400k on a Mercedes in Ireland obviously doesn't give two ****s about money and has plenty of it to burn. Good on him for getting the car he wanted regardless of what it cost, not many people people will ever be able to do that. Good luck to Beshoff getting €100k for it and hopefully he does but I just can't see someone over here shelling out that much for a 7 year old Merc - a Ferrari or something, yes, but not a Merc.

cadaliac

tippman1 wrote: »

"2008 Mercedes-Benz CL Class 65 AMG BI-TURBO (603 BHP).1 OWNER//MASSAVE SPEC//NEARLY €400K NEW. IRISH CAR WITH FULL MERCEDES SERVICE HISTORY. TAILORED FINANCE PACKAGES AVAILABLE. TRADE IN'S WELCOME. OPEN 7 DAYS."

What a shame they couldn't get someone who can spell properly and use punctuation properly to type up their advert.

Looks a pretty unprofessional attempt at advertising their car.

You are dwelling too much on this ad. They made two mistakes - yes, a spelling mistake and an grammatical error.

So what?
The all in CAPS thing annoys me also, however, it's common enough with garage sales guys - for whatever reason, so I wouldn't read too much into that either.
All in all, the guy selling the car will make more on commission on that car through one sale than most people will make in a month.

As for comparing ads from DD - horses for courses. You can generally tell a lot about the seller and car just by reading an ad. The poor english in some ads by obviously non-nationals is just that. Poor english. Again, so what?
I bought my current car from Romanians living in Dublin. I knew they were non-nationals (by the ad) before I picked up the telephone.

The point I am getting at, is that the car is the focal point of the ad. The description, pictures and general layout of that ad, for the massively overpriced (imo) merc is fine - to me. It's descriptive, informative and you have plenty of pictures of the car. There is very little information missing from that ad.
The prospective buyer in the market for that sort of car has all the information they need by reading the ad. They more than likely have a very firm idea of what they want, even before they click on the ad (me thinks).

Alternatively, a €700 sh1tbox on DD with pictures taken at night, no real description worth talking about, no milage, NCT or precious tax - will attract a buyer with a similar frame of mind - in the sense that they have a very specific idea of the car they want.
One client wants a car that will cost no more that €700 and will function as an A to B car.
The other client wants that engine with that color combo with that alloy wheel and that year etc.

I understand that the ad should be proofread for such a prestigious price tagged car - but in the bigger scheme of things - it won't matter a fcuk.

porsche959

Hachiko wrote: »

Lexus had some sense at least to stop making them.

Did they? Not really a Lexus fan but good for them.

NIMAN

That would be the worst way to invest €100k I could think of.

Fun? Yes. But wise, definitely not.

porsche959

cadaliac wrote: »

You are dwelling too much on this ad. They made two mistakes - yes, a spelling mistake and an grammatical error.

So what?
The all in CAPS thing annoys me also, however, it's common enough with garage sales guys - for whatever reason, so I wouldn't read too much into that either.
All in all, the guy selling the car will make more on commission on that car through one sale than most people will make in a month.

As for comparing ads from DD - horses for courses. You can generally tell a lot about the seller and car just by reading an ad. The poor english in some ads by obviously non-nationals is just that. Poor english. Again, so what?
I bought my current car from Romanians living in Dublin. I knew they were non-nationals (by the ad) before I picked up the telephone.

The point I am getting at, is that the car is the focal point of the ad. The description, pictures and general layout of that ad, for the massively overpriced (imo) merc is fine - to me. It's descriptive, informative and you have plenty of pictures of the car. There is very little information missing from that ad.
The prospective buyer in the market for that sort of car has all the information they need by reading the ad. They more than likely have a very firm idea of what they want, even before they click on the ad (me thinks).

Alternatively, a €700 sh1tbox on DD with pictures taken at night, no real description worth talking about, no milage, NCT or precious tax - will attract a buyer with a similar frame of mind - in the sense that they have a very specific idea of the car they want.
One client wants a car that will cost no more that €700 and will function as an A to B car.
The other client wants that engine with that color combo with that alloy wheel and that year etc.

I understand that the ad should be proofread for such a prestigious price tagged car - but in the bigger scheme of things - it won't matter a fcuk.

Far as I'm aware Beshoff's is run by two Irish guys but I think they might have an Eastern European working for them also.

But, yes, the focus on the odd typo or adds in caps from some posters is a severe case of missing the wood from the trees. These guys sell a lot of high end motors and I would wager anything they take in is quality. Take a look at the service history on the Ferrari 575M they currently have in stock for example.

Mech1

I bet it doesnt belong to Beshoff's, I recon quite a few in that yard belong to banks or other financial institutes.

Hachiko

Yeah, I am sure Lexus don't do diesels no more, they stopped the 200D a good few years ago. I think they are more focused on hybrid trains now in the future.

i dont get why expensive marques make diesel, its horrible. No matter how much of a fan you are the difference between a nice big CC petrol (NA even more so) and a diesel is like night and day.

The Merc is awesome but not worth 100k Eu, whatever the prices are in the UK are on the ball. Still a crap load of money for a car that old but they don't make em like that no more joe.

porsche959

Hachiko wrote: »

i dont get why expensive marques make diesel, its horrible. No matter how much of a fan you are the difference between a nice big CC petrol (NA even more so) and a diesel is like night and day.

I am not a fan of high end marques in diesel either, but the customer demand is there pure and simple. I can see why a 4WD Porsche SUV diesel makes some kind of sense, but to buy something like a Maserati Ghibli in diesel is absurd to me. What next, a two seater diesel sportscar?

Hachiko wrote: »

The Merc is awesome but not worth 100k Eu, whatever the prices are in the UK are on the ball. Still a crap load of money for a car that old but they dont like em like that no more joe.

I personally wouldn't pay €100k for this car, but the age is irrelevant. Tbh the age of the car is not remotely the issue here, otherwise the guy that bought, say, a Ferrari F40 for £250k in the early '90s and can sell it today for £800k is a idiot. Which he isn't, of course.

Hachiko

There were too many Mercs of that type launched for it ever to reach crazy car prices in the future. Expensive car, yup? Going to sell for hundreds of Ks in a decade time? no

Zubeneschamali

cadaliac wrote: »

I understand that the ad should be proofread for such a prestigious price tagged car - but in the bigger scheme of things - it won't matter a fcuk.

If it sells. The ad is amateurish - who'd buy a prestige car at a prestige price from an amateur?

JJJJNR

Red Kev wrote: »

there's also a black edition with 680bhp for £59,999 or €83,000.

Can you imagine the VRT folks if you went to import that. The nononesense ad springs to mind.

BMJD

JJJJNR wrote: »

Can you imagine the VRT folks if you went to import that. The nononesense ad springs to mind.

Vehicle Registration Tax
(payable on enquiry)€9315

Vehicle Details
Statistical Code 41989920
Model CL
Make MERCEDES-BENZ
Version65 AMG 2DR AUTO

Breakdown of VRT Calculation
Open Market Selling Price (OMSP) determined by Revenue€317119
Monthly adjustment+102%
Depreciation code allocated by Revenue J1 Odometer reading 48000 Miles
Date of first registration January 2007
Mileage/Kilometre reduction€0
Rate of depreciation for this vehicle 92%
Current OMSP determined by Revenue €25876

I think their OMSP is a bit out in the above estimation. Looks manky anyway

ourheritage

Its amazing to think that one could buy a 10 year old E class Elegance for less than 10000 with all the spec, and yet what would they have cost new back in 2005 in the Celtic tiger years although there's an 07 E class Elegance in Sarsfield Motors Dublin 8 for 10950. Less than the price of a new Micra, Yaris, or I10.

porsche959

ourheritage wrote: »

Its amazing to think that one could buy a 10 year old E class Elegance for less than 10000 with all the spec, and yet what would they have cost new back in 2005 in the Celtic tiger years although there's an 07 E class Elegance in Sarsfield Motors Dublin 8 for 10950. Less than the price of a new Micra, Yaris, or I10.

In % terms depreciation rates are higher on the likes of the CL. There will always be a good level of demand for mid range E Class or even S class saloons. That era of the E class was notorious for electrical problems but I think they are solvable.