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Why is Ireland so far behind the rest in gaming

  • 31-03-2015 1:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38


    For example in England there is a site you can sign up to, pay a monthly fee and rent a few games at once for as long as you want, in ireland it's 10euro for 3 nights which is a joke.. I have been trying to buy a gaming pc recently and was trying to do it on finance, but of course yet again, England have all the sites that sell finance Pcs and they don't deliver to Ireland...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Buy from Germany. Why are the Germans so advanced in gaming pcs?

    Answer: market demand, local taxes, availability etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Because we all sit around complaining?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    I blame Gamestop and Nintendo :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Deanp057


    Buy from Germany. Why are the Germans so advanced in gaming pcs?

    Answer: market demand, local taxes, availability etc.

    They would hardly do finance Pcs to Ireland would they? Haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Deanp057


    Cormac... wrote: »
    I blame Gamestop and Nintendo :mad:

    Gamestop are the worst, so dear just to rent a game


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭v3ttel


    Deanp057 wrote: »
    England have all the sites that sell finance Pcs and they don't deliver to Ireland...

    Parcel Motel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Deanp057 wrote: »
    They would hardly do finance Pcs to Ireland would they? Haha

    http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/helppayment.jsp



    by Financing

    From an order value of 100 euros, we provide you favourable financing together with our partner Commerz Finanz GmbH, Schwanthalerstr. 31, 80336 München. For details look here.


    ^^ there you go. You'd be better off paying in cash though. You'd put a gaming pc together for under 500 euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭maximoose


    Was going to recommend gameclick, didn't realise they were gone until just now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Skybox


    Similar site in Ireland is screenclick.com. They do DVD and Game rental


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Hercule


    population


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭TrustedApple


    Deanp057 wrote: »
    For example in England there is a site you can sign up to, pay a monthly fee and rent a few games at once for as long as you want, in ireland it's 10euro for 3 nights which is a joke.. I have been trying to buy a gaming pc recently and was trying to do it on finance, but of course yet again, England have all the sites that sell finance Pcs and they don't deliver to Ireland...

    There is no market for a monthly rent fee on games in ireland as the UK has over 60 mil + people living in it while Ireland only has the population of the greater Manchester area of 4.5 mil or what ever it is here.

    The fact its dear to rent games is due to the fact not many rent people anymore i cant remember the last time i rented a game i say it could have been 2008 or 2009 ?. I just buy the game now when it gos cheaper and i say a lot more people do that as well.

    Go ask your bank for a loan if you won't to buy your pc on finance ?. I got my macbook on finance from the bank as student loan with no APR and over the 2 years it costs me notting to have it on finance. Even if you could get finance of theses crowds it will be something crazy like 40% APR on it.

    There is also no market here really for finance on computers as everyone stopped doing it when the times where hard here as a lot of places lost a lot of money on computers thanks to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,824 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    What does this have to do with gaming?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    What does this have to do with gaming?

    Wondering that myself, I believe in most cases we are ahead in uptake of consoles, tech and games than our British compadres....

    We don't have the market though 7million versus around 70 million....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭ríomhaire


    Renting games? What decade is this? Are you using a mega drive?


  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    v3ttel wrote: »
    Parcel Motel?

    I would have serious doubts that he would be able to sign any finance agreement with a parcel motel address :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Deanp057 wrote: »
    Gamestop are the worst, so dear just to rent a game

    I was only messing :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Nodferatu


    Because its Ireland. Everything is backwards here.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Deanp057 wrote: »
    Gamestop are the worst, so dear just to rent a game

    When did Gamestop start renting games?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    We simply don't have the population and hence the market to get the kind of volume discounts that make PCs cheaper in the UK and on the continent.
    If you find a product in the UK you like but they don't deliver to Ireland, use Parcel Motel.
    Better still, building a PC is relatively easy, learn to do it yourself and save even more money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Nodferatu wrote: »
    Because its Ireland. Everything is backwards here.

    Except we are not and consistently hit the top best best places to live on a number of metrics. Not being able to buy a PC here on finance or rent games reflects market demand - we just buy what we want outright.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Havok, the physics engine that nearly every game you love has used, is an Irish company.
    Just so as we nail the whole backward Ireland thing to the wall, then set the wall on fire.

    Also, Speed Freaks, excellent and superior PS karting game was developed here before being torpedoed by Sony so they could make a bigger splash with Crash Kart.

    The guy behind Super Hexagon is an Irishman too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Get a hold of your spending. You shouldn't need to finance the 600-1000 Euros it takes to buy a PC. If you do, then you can't afford one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Because we're a tiny island with a very small population? How can you compare Ireland with the UK, the difference in population is absolutely massive so of course they're going to have more gamers and that allows markets for such things to do well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Havok, the physics engine that nearly every game you love has used, is an Irish company.
    Just so as we nail the whole backward Ireland thing to the wall, then set the wall on fire.

    Also, Speed Freaks, excellent and superior PS karting game was developed here before being torpedoed by Sony so they could make a bigger splash with Crash Kart.

    The guy behind Super Hexagon is an Irishman too.

    Demonware are also Irish, they created the peer to peer matchmaking that COD uses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    Demonware are also Irish, they created the peer to peer matchmaking that COD uses.

    Thats no great boast!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Thats no great boast!

    They were great before activision got their claws into them :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    I blame Irish Water…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭v3ttel


    awec wrote: »
    I would have serious doubts that he would be able to sign any finance agreement with a parcel motel address :)

    Can you not have a billing address and a shipping address?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭ríomhaire


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Havok, the physics engine that nearly every game you love has used, is an Irish company.
    Just so as we nail the whole backward Ireland thing to the wall, then set the wall on fire.

    Also, Speed Freaks, excellent and superior PS karting game was developed here before being torpedoed by Sony so they could make a bigger splash with Crash Kart.

    The guy behind Super Hexagon is an Irishman too.

    Some of his free games are really good to. I love Naya's Quest and he has a depressing artsy one called Oiche Mhaith


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    v3ttel wrote: »
    Can you not have a billing address and a shipping address?

    He would have to be a UK resident to enter in to a finance agreement in the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    ríomhaire wrote: »
    Renting games? What decade is this? Are you using a mega drive?

    Whilst I don't rent games the idea of 'streaming' a game for several days appeals to me. Games like COD where you'll finish in one sitting etc. I noticed on the PS4 US PSN they do something like that, good idea imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 768 ✭✭✭SpaceSasqwatch


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Havok, the physics engine that nearly every game you love has used, is an Irish company.
    Just so as we nail the whole backward Ireland thing to the wall, then set the wall on fire.

    Also, Speed Freaks, excellent and superior PS karting game was developed here before being torpedoed by Sony so they could make a bigger splash with Crash Kart.

    The guy behind Super Hexagon is an Irishman too.

    and a mod for the game dev forum was lead 3d programmer for watchdogs..he works for ubisoft montreal iirc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭TrustedApple


    I see in some xtra visions there doing unlimited rental on xbox and ps4 games for €15 euros a month now. Only catch is that you can have only one game at a time but you can keep it for as long as you won't it for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    I see in some xtra visions there doing unlimited rental on xbox and ps4 games for €15 euros a month now. Only catch is that you can have only one game at a time but you can keep it for as long as you won't it for.

    Sounds like a good idea in theory to be fair


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,803 ✭✭✭sniper_samurai


    I see in some xtra visions there doing unlimited rental on xbox and ps4 games for €15 euros a month now. Only catch is that you can have only one game at a time but you can keep it for as long as you won't it for.

    Not just games, boxsets and films are included too, you can have 2 items out at any one time but are restricted to only having one ps4/xbone game or boxset at a time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭GottaGetGatt


    There is an Irish equivalent, Gamenash or something to that effect. Know a few lads who used to use them but that was about two years ago. Not too sure if their still around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Always forgotten about is the unique tax that hits electronics in this country, afaik video games fall under its remit also.

    It's simply not a market or industry that will get tax breaks or incentives. With a global market at your fingertips, there is simply no need. Yeah it would be great to have a reputible irish retailer who can sell games at competitive prices and all the other good stuff, but its not cost effective and therefore consumers will buy from abroad.

    I moved fully over to Amazon about a year ago, and havn't/won't look back. Incredible reliability, customer service and most importantly pricing. I get pretty much all new releases for €45 since I put them on my pre-order once available. Change of heart? Remove it day or so before release and I don't get charged.

    They also revise pricing exceptionally quickly. Alien Isolation for PS4 is now €20(well thats what I paid for it last week) while a friend the week before handed over €60 in gamestop.


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