watch id help

emo72

Any ideas what this is lads?

CarltonBrowne

It's definitely a pocket watch . Can you post pictures of the back and, even more importantly, the movement? Looks like it could be a gunmetal case.

emo72

Thanks Carlton, but I can't seem to post on my mobile every time I attach an image the page won't let me post it. There is no identifying name on it.

emo72

Swiss 25541 on the inside of case cover. and 3484 is on the movement cover. "Alarme" and "silence" toggle switch. Some sort of slot with A and R written on it.

Wibbs

hmmm, going by the radium numerals(refrain from licking them Emo ) and hands I'd say from the Great War era, so very early 20th century. And Swiss made. Looks like it has an alarm function too judging by the third hand pointing at 3, which is cool if it has. Normally these would be set by a second crown, but looking closely it seems to mate with a slot on the inner bezel edge, which might suggest that you set the alarm time by rotating the external knurled bezel. Very cool and I've not seen that before. Im with CB on the gunmetal case. Very WW1.

Again as CB said shots of the movement and the back would be fantastic if you can get the back off. Be careful there as gunmetal can kinda fuse the threads over time(if the back is threaded). That's a very cool pocket watch IMH. Not your average low end type you tend to see. I'd love that. Well worth getting serviced/restored. Nice size too. Small enough that you could if you wanted to be daring wear it in one of these straps.



Popular at that time, before the full on wristwatch took over.

Wibbs

emo72 wrote: »

Swiss 25541 on the inside of case cover. and 3484 is on the movement cover. "Alarme" and "silence" toggle switch. Some sort of slot with A and R written on it.

Yes! It is an alarm watch. Sweet.

The "slot" with A/R on it is the regulator. Very basically it speeds up or slows down the timing. Advance/Retard.

PS Emo if you want to try PMing me the link I can post the pics for you.

emo72

Very small engraving. Wish I had a magnifying glass! 9-11-27. Although I'm winding the lad up the engraving says waffen SS just for the laugh.

893bet

Vacheron Constantin? though that would be signed then?

~replica site below!

http://www.watch-superior.com/Vacheron-Constantin-25603-36113.html

emo72

893bet wrote: »

Vacheron Constantin? though that would be signed then?

~replica site below!

http://www.watch-superior.com/Vacheron-Constantin-25603-36113.html

Very similar style. But it's definitely not a replica. I was sitting in the lads van and he pulled it off the dash. It was his father's watch. I told him not to leave it on the dash, roasting during the day and freezing at night! Will post photos tonight when I get home. Good craic.

893bet

emo72 wrote: »

Very similar style. But it's definitely not a replica. I was sitting in the lads van and he pulled it off the dash. It was his father's watch. I told him not to leave it on the dash, roasting during the day and freezing at night! Will post photos tonight when I get home. Good craic.

Sorry I didn't mean yours was a rep rather I was directing to a replica watch site. Don't think they made reps in the 20's! Send it to win a to take apart and figure it out.

emo72

more images. i hope.

emo72

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emo72

sorry, i only seem to be able to add one per post, duuuuh.

Wibbs

Very nice. Defo gunmetal alright if I'm any judge. Which… The movement has a secondary movement cover under the back "lid". Not so common, the movement will be under that, but I wouldn't advise trying to get it off, not unless you've done that sort of thing before. IMH it's a very nice watch your mate has. I would love to see what movement is hidden under there, but as I say tread with extreme caution. Oh and yea please tell him to take it off the dash for the reasons you rightfully gave, never mind that some scumbag could see it and cave in a window to nick it. That watch so deserves to live again. It shouldn't take much to get it refreshed and it is an unusual piece to see. Cheers for sharing it Emo.

emo72

thanks wibbs, top bloke for helping. it looks like 2 screws to take that cover off. not too scary like. dunno if the guy would want me to attempt that. its ticking and working when wound, but it could do with a wee bit of tlc. it shouldnt cost much to service it, and i told him he should definitely get that done. i would also love to know how to set the alarm on it. the winder didnt seem to have any settings except 1 pull to set time, and it winds when pushed back in. thats why i posted a close up of the winder in case anyone could spot something i couldnt. thanks again.

Wibbs

I reckon you set the alarm time by rotating the knurled bezel on the face of the watch. It's currently at 9, but should twist around. That's the ridged serrated circular bit on the front for those less afflicted with the watch virus. Now it may well be stiff, even stuck fast over time, so don't force it, just in case it breaks.

emo72

emo72 wrote: »

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A little update. I reckon the hand for setting the alarm is between the 2 screws in the centre of this picture. I reckon there was a small handle and it broke off. Otherwise what would the point of that hole be? If he is willing I'd try to take off those 2 screws and get a look at the movement.

Wibbs

I really doubt that's how the alarm time is set. The external bezel on the front is by far the most likely. The hole in the back could be anything, but I doubt a handle would be part of it. Think about how little clearance even a small handle might have with the back case closed. Then again it may be a folding handle designed to wind an alarm spring. If it's winding both the watch and the alarm spring from the main external crown that would be pretty impressive. Though as you say E if we saw the movement that would help.

emo72

There is an inscription that reads "w 296 9/11/27".

Oh wibbs which of us is right about the setting for alarm? Both our reputations are at risk here haha! I'll post more pics tonight!

Don't worry my reputation is worthless here!

Wibbs

I'll bet me hat you set the time of the alarm from the front, but you may have to wind the alarm spring that drives it from the back. Moar Pics!