Passport Control

rochestown

Im just back from Edinburgh for the rugby (what a day!!) - when we arrived into Edinburgh airport there was no passport control, no security checks anything of the kind - very easy we just walked off the plane and got into a taxi however...

When we arrived back to Dublin airport we were met with the snake like passport control queue checking each and every passport... why is it when we arived into Edinburgh the ease of traveling was brilliant but when we arrive into Dublin we are met with such inefficiency?

Is it a UK policy not to check passports on an incoming domestic or Irish flights?

Thanks...im sure its obvious??

henryporter

As opposed to having those Gardai out solving/preventing crimes you mean?

rochestown

henryporter wrote: »

As opposed to having those Gardai out solving/preventing crimes you mean?

I hear you but that's a different discussion - i was more interested in how within the EU passport control policies can differ and even closer to home how UK passport policies can differ to Irish ones?

Atlantic Dawn

Strange for the checks seeing as the plane is in a common travel area?

rainbow kirby

A lot of UK airports have some segregation for Irish and domestic arrivals - anyone coming through there is clearly within the CTA. There doesn't seem to be any such segregation at Dublin airport.

elastico

I could connect through in LHR from China or Africa etc. onto a Dublin flight with no visa check in London, so when the Aer Lingus flight gets to Dublin they have no way of knowing who is originating in the UK or from outside.

Its something along those lines anyway.

ProudDUB

rainbow kirby wrote: »

A lot of UK airports have some segregation for Irish and domestic arrivals - anyone coming through there is clearly within the CTA. There doesn't seem to be any such segregation at Dublin airport.

Yep. That's been my experience too. The domestic arrivals (and they consider us domestic) arrive thru a separate area than other passengers do, so there is no need for a passport check. Or there are over head signs telling passengers arriving from Ireland passengers to walk down a certain corridor. I've also flown into a couple of smaller airports, that don't segregate their arrivals areas & you do see desks at security/passport check points. They are generally empty and you just walk straight past them, as the airport police don't bother sending staff out to screen passengers arriving from Ireland. Irish airports don't have separate arrivals areas for passengers arriving from the UK, so everyone has to go thru the same security passport check.

Greenmachine

Never had passport control look at my passport once arriving in Spain. In other countries I have had a few cases where there was some serious glancing between me and my passport before being let through, despite my passport being an excellent likeness for me.

rochestown

Thanks all - is seems utter madness that there is no segregating of 'domestic' flights in Dublin - it would even ease the knock on affect for all other international passport checks - typical Irish mentality - drives me mad!!

MrTom1

i came back from germany and it was like a tesco self serve all i did is walk up and scan my passport and walked through. does your passport have the chip in it?

ardmacha

elastico wrote: »

I could connect through in LHR from China or Africa etc. onto a Dublin flight with no visa check in London, so when the Aer Lingus flight gets to Dublin they have no way of knowing who is originating in the UK or from outside.

No, you cannot. To board an Irish flight you have to pass through UK passport control. However, you may have a UK visa and not an Irish one.

LudoFrancis

This time last year, myself and a friend flew to Manchester and back for a concert. We didn't get checked once for a passport, all we actually used was our boarding passes.

I'm assuming it's just lazy staff...

rochestown

MrTom1 wrote: »

i came back from germany and it was like a tesco self serve all i did is walk up and scan my passport and walked through. does your passport have the chip in it?

Yes it does but this didn't even come into play - we still had to do the 'penguin shuffle' through the snake queue...

MrTom1

rochestown wrote: »

Yes it does but this didn't even come into play - we still had to do the 'penguin shuffle' through the snake queue...

seriously ? i thought it was best thing since sliced bread, we flew through it and even my other half and me where abit weary of leaving because it was so simple. so fast

rochestown

MrTom1 wrote: »

seriously ? i thought it was best thing since sliced bread, we flew through it and even my other half and me where abit weary of leaving because it was so simple. so fast

Compared to the Edinburgh experience of no passport control and straight out to your taxi with no delays - yes it was poor...

Yamanoto

rochestown wrote: »

Yes it does but this didn't even come into play - we still had to do the 'penguin shuffle' through the snake queue...

Only T1 offers the facility to clear immigration by means of DIY.

spurious

Yamanoto wrote: »

Only T1 offers the facility to clear immigration by means of DIY.

Though if the queue is very long, you still have to do the penguin shuffle up til the point you get to the machines.

ProudDUB

rochestown wrote: »

Thanks all - is seems utter madness that there is no segregating of 'domestic' flights in Dublin - it would even ease the knock on affect for all other international passport checks - typical Irish mentality - drives me mad!!

It's not madness. People arriving from the UK could have transited thru an in international transit lounge at Heathrow, whereby their right to be in the UK/EU is not queried or inspected. As they are staying in an international transit lounge, they are not officially entering the UK, so their passport is never inspected. They then get onto a plane to Ireland. Unless we have them go thru passport control here, any one could enter the country and just start living here illegally, or get up to illegal jiggerypokery. Not every passenger is going to be a harmless soccer/rugby supporter.

Sheldons Brain

ProudDUB wrote: »

It's not madness. People arriving from the UK could have transited thru an in international transit lounge at Heathrow, whereby their right to be in the UK/EU is not queried or inspected. As they are staying in an international transit lounge, they are not officially entering the UK, so their passport is never inspected. They then get onto a plane to Ireland. Unless we have them go thru passport control here, any one could enter the country and just start living here illegally, or get up to illegal jiggerypokery. Not every passenger is going to be a harmless soccer/rugby supporter.

You obviously don't fly much.
http://www.heathrowairport.com/heathrow-airport-guide/flight-connections/connection-guides/international-arrival-ireland-departure

ProudDUB

Fair enough. I am perfectly willing to admit that I was wrong.

I'm also able to do it without making snide (and incorrect) remarks about other posters, based on one post. You should try it sometime.

Marcusm

ProudDUB wrote: »

It's not madness. People arriving from the UK could have transited thru an in international transit lounge at Heathrow, whereby their right to be in the UK/EU is not queried or inspected. As they are staying in an international transit lounge, they are not officially entering the UK, so their passport is never inspected. They then get onto a plane to Ireland. Unless we have them go thru passport control here, any one could enter the country and just start living here illegally, or get up to illegal jiggerypokery. Not every passenger is going to be a harmless soccer/rugby supporter.

This is not true. Persons transiting London onwards to a destination within the Common Travel Area (ie Ireland, IoM, Channel ISlands) are fully landed in the UK. I have done this many times despite living in London. Additionally, I know an Australian who was overstaying an Irish visa (with blind eyes turned by GNIB each time she entered Dublin Airport) but who was deported back to Oz when her return flight from a business trip took her via Heathrow.