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lim bull HCA

  • 22-03-2015 9:31am
    #1
    blonde10
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    I've 5 blonde cross heifers I want to AI,has anyone here ever used the lim bull HCA on heifers,blondes are a bit muscely but have great length,am I asking for trouble with HCA..cheers..


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  • #2
    Bodacious
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    blonde10 wrote: »
    I've 5 blonde cross heifers I want to AI,has anyone here ever used the lim bull HCA on heifers,blondes are a bit muscely but have great length,am I asking for trouble with HCA..cheers..

    No trouble calving with HCA or AHZ that I know off


  • #3
    Grecco
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    Thats an easy calving limo,
    its easy for a reason so don`t expect show calves from him ;)


  • #4
    Feckthis
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    Couple a months old from an Angus cow


  • #5
    tanko
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    Grecco wrote: »
    Thats an easy calving limo,
    its easy for a reason so don`t expect show calves from him ;)

    Anyone trying to breed show calves off heifers should have a sharp knife and a needle and thread handy when they're calving. I've used HCA a lot on Limx heifers with very little trouble, never had to use a jack, maybe a small pull with ropes on an odd bull calf. The heifers I used him on wouldn't have had much muscle themselves. He breeds leggy calves with good frame.


  • #6
    Future Farmer
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    blonde10 wrote: »
    I've 5 blonde cross heifers I want to AI,has anyone here ever used the lim bull HCA on heifers,blondes are a bit muscely but have great length,am I asking for trouble with HCA..cheers..

    Think HCA is coming to an end availability-wise. So you'd want to get on to your tech ASAP. HCA is a fine bull - easy calving with maternal figures. FTY is an option.

    When you say a bit muscly... A small live calf is better than a big dead one, some super options with Salers Bulls out there too.


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  • #7
    onyerbikepat
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    Ya, live ones sell better than dead ones.
    I don't buy this whole thing about muscular calves been hard to calve. Look at Achile (AHZ). His calving figures are the same as HCA, but he's in the top 15% of the breed for muscle, unlike HCA which is in the botom 1%. Calves just don't have the muscle when they are born, but develop muscle later.


  • #8
    Future Farmer
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    onyerbikepat wrote: »
    Ya, live ones sell better than dead ones.
    I don't buy this whole thing about muscular calves been hard to calve. Look at Achile (AHZ). His calving figures are the same as HCA, but he's in the top 15% of the breed for muscle, unlike HCA which is in the botom 1%. Calves just don't have the muscle when they are born, but develop muscle later.

    Yep, but there is none of him left.


  • #9
    onyerbikepat
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    Didn't know AHZ was gone.

    The Saler bull RIO, is a safe bet for heifers at 2.4% calving.


  • #10
    Future Farmer
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    onyerbikepat wrote: »
    Didn't know AHZ was gone.

    The Saler bull RIO, is a safe bet for heifers at 2.4% calving.

    Big fan of those Salers myself - easy calving & maternal.

    Rio, Ivan, Eric & Bonaparte.

    Daughters will go on to calve anything.


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