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How to deal with Jehovahs witnesses and Mormons?

  • 08-03-2015 1:14am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭


    Have you ever encountered a Jehovahs witness or Mormon? I was approached by two Mormons on Friday but I was very proud of how I dealt with them. I simply told them I was in a rush, took their business card, which I then tore into ten pieces and threw in the bin.

    I know some people who seem to get great joy out of ripping their beliefs to pieces (no pun intended) but that's unfair in my opinion.

    So have they ever come knocking and how have you dealt with them?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Rub your thighs vigorously at them.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    One of the real benefits of living in an apartment complex - they can't get anywhere near me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Have you ever encountered a Jehovahs witness or Mormon? I was approached by two Mormons on Friday but I was very proud of how I dealt with them. I simply told them I was in a rush, took their business card, which I then tore into ten pieces and threw in the bin.

    I know some people who seem to get great joy out of ripping their beliefs to pieces (no pun intended) but that's unfair in my opinion.

    So have they ever come knocking and how have you dealt with them?

    I have had the bible bashers round and bashed them with a bible.

    Yes I can't tolerate anyone calling to my door unanounced as it is really annoying.

    I was renting a house before which was well out of the way and well hidden but my god they were persistent they called a good few times always told them busy or happened twice where I was heading out to work for real and kept at me. Very annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Have you ever encountered a Jehovahs witness or Mormon? I was approached by two Mormons on Friday but I was very proud of how I dealt with them. I simply told them I was in a rush, took their business card, which I then tore into ten pieces and threw in the bin.

    I know some people who seem to get great joy out of ripping their beliefs to pieces (no pun intended) but that's unfair in my opinion.

    So have they ever come knocking and how have you dealt with them?

    As long as they go around knocking on doors annoying people about their religion or lack of, they deserve to be mocked for their own ridiculous beliefs. However if they go quietly about their business not bothering anyone, then I agree with you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Don't answer the door, an unanswered door is a happy door.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Hold a needle and tell them you need a blood transfusion...and FAST!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Ruu wrote: »
    Don't answer the door, an unanswered door is a happy door.

    Would have made Bosco a bit crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    Back home in NZ they used to frequently come door knocking. We had a system in our street where as soon as they were spotted, neighbours text/rang each other to warn. Garden sprinklers would then suddenly go on in strategically placed positions that hindered front door access.

    Have not encountered any door knocking since moving here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Have you ever encountered a Jehovahs witness or Mormon? I was approached by two Mormons on Friday but I was very proud of how I dealt with them. I simply told them I was in a rush, took their business card, which I then tore into ten pieces and threw in the bin.
    I don't really see what would fill you with pride about such an act of anger.

    A simple no thanks will do.

    We get a few Jehovas witness/ doomsday types at my gaff, but a simple "no thanks" with a smile (costs nothing) is perfectly effective. Tearing up business cards in their faces is stress that neither of you need in your day.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 491 ✭✭Dozer Dave


    Just give them five minutes of your time, I don't get the faux autrage at them.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    I rarely get approached by them outside. If they're handing out leaflets to passersby, I just take it and throw it in the next bin. I've refused one before and that just lead to questions.

    I've gotten into arguments with a few Jehovah's Witnesses that came to the house so I don't converse with them anymore. As soon as I realise whoever is at the door is there to "convert me", I just close the door. I don't see the point in argueing with them and I don't want to entertain them, nor do I have the time to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They need a hook of some sort.
    Free balloons or 76 virgins or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    conorh91 wrote: »
    I don't really see what would fill you with pride about such an act of anger.

    A simple no thanks will do.

    We get a few Jehovas witness/ doomsday types at my gaff, but a simple "no thanks" with a smile (costs nothing) is perfectly effective. Tearing up business cards in their faces is stress that neither of you need in your day.

    I'd like to emphasise that I did not tear it up in their faces. I told them I was too busy to talk, they gave me the card, I walked on and when I was a safe distance tore it up. I wouldn't be as cold-hearted to do it in their faces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,233 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    I just say im busy at the moment but ill take any literature you might have, they just hand you a few leaflets and are happy enough with that, there is no need to be an ass to them, there is enough of those around


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    Kiwi in IE wrote: »
    Back home in NZ they used to frequently come door knocking. We had a system in our street where as soon as they were spotted, neighbours text/rang each other to warn. Garden sprinklers would then suddenly go on in strategically placed positions that hindered front door access.

    Have not encountered any door knocking since moving here.
    That's community spirit, doesn't exist around me, probably not much more anywhere here, most for themselves.
    I'd a chat with the born again crowd or Jehovah's, I'm not sure which, not mormons, i think id be less up for having a laugh, interesting chat, seemed pleasant but highly unlikely they'd convert me, then again, I was coming up with answers to everything they suggested, that said I'd time to spare, if I hadn't I don't usually open the door or I'd just be straight and say I don't have the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    thelad95 wrote: »
    I'd like to emphasise that I did not tear it up in their faces. I told them I was too busy to talk, they gave me the card, I walked on and when I was a safe distance tore it up. I wouldn't be as cold-hearted to do it in their faces.
    Apologies, maybe I misunderstood. What I meant is tearing up someone's product where they can see it is unnecessary, whether they are selling broadband, or supermarket deals, or religion.

    If you did it out of sight of the people in question, obviously that's commendable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Ive only ever had people looking for money for wrestling (Im sure the WWF get enough money without needing to go door to door) and some people scoping out the place, they ask if you have a TV to see if your house is worth breaking into.

    Never any religious folks though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭Littlekittylou


    With Jehovahs tell them you are an apostate. They are required to 'shun' you. It's an ex member they don't want current members talking to ex members. And it means if you leave they cut you off. It's controlling.

    But yeah it works.

    Dunno about Mormons....

    I'm a pagan I banish em!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,971 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    I have a friend who tells jehovah witnesses that her landlord is a devout Catholic and that if he sees her even speaking to missionaries at the door she'd be thrown out. She says they scurry away with offers of prayers and promises to tell others of their ilk never to call to her.
    Not sure I'd have the acting skills myself but still is a novel approach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    Telling them to "fúck off" usually does the trick well enough.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 491 ✭✭Dozer Dave


    Telling them to "fúck off" usually does the trick well enough.


    But there is no need for that sort of language.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    Ask the Jehovah's Witness for their birthdate and offer to throw them a party. Offer a couple of cokes or cups of tea to the Mormons. If their feet hurt, offer them a couple of aspirin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭gazzamc


    Break out your cross and bible and try convert them, they usually come in two's so say to one of them that your going to convert the other and he can be your witness..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Anytime I've come across them, they have been polite to me and I saw no reason to treat them any differently in return.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ads20101


    kneemos wrote: »
    They need a hook of some sort.
    Free balloons or 76 virgins or something.

    76 virgins - a bit too much work and a bit sore after a while

    However......

    76 whores - just call me Jehovah - I'm converted ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭KatW4


    I worked with a woman who was a Jehovah and going to people's houses was the highlight of her week. She always said that she didn't mind if people closed the door in her face or yelled at her because she would have someone to pray for!

    She never tried to convert anyone in work and let her children choose if they wanted to be part of her religion.

    I wouldn't be rude to anyone who came to my house or spoke to me on the street. I just take what they're giving and walk on. There isn't any reason to be rude.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    I was stopped by a beautiful mormon lady recently and she didn't even mention god. It was a win-win .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Have you ever encountered a Jehovahs witness or Mormon? I was approached by two Mormons on Friday but I was very proud of how I dealt with them. I simply told them I was in a rush, took their business card, which I then tore into ten pieces and threw in the bin.

    I know some people who seem to get great joy out of ripping their beliefs to pieces (no pun intended) but that's unfair in my opinion.

    So have they ever come knocking and how have you dealt with them?

    Why did you feel the need to tear it up into 10 pieces? Why not just discard it in the bin?
    Seems a bit showy to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Brego888 wrote: »
    Why did you feel the need to tear it up into 10 pieces? Why not just discard it in the bin?
    Seems a bit showy to me.

    He didn't really tear it into ten pieces, he stuck it in his pocket. It makes a better story tearing it up though. Have you done the math about how you would tear something as small as a business card into ten pieces?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    KatW4 wrote: »
    I worked with a woman who was a Jehovah and going to people's houses was the highlight of her week. She always said that she didn't mind if people closed the door in her face or yelled at her because she would have someone to pray for!

    She never tried to convert anyone in work and let her children choose if they wanted to be part of her religion.

    I wouldn't be rude to anyone who came to my house or spoke to me on the street. I just take what they're giving and walk on. There isn't any reason to be rude.

    I very much doubt that part


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    conorh91 wrote: »
    If you did it out of sight of the people in question, obviously that's commendable.
    Not wasting the card would have been far more commendable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭zcorpian88


    Back in the early 90's some Mormons tried to convert us over, my mam was very trusting of them because they were so nice, she invited them into the house and by all accounts they were lovely folks, we wouldn't convert obviously because they don't believe in consuming tea, alcohol or cigarettes etc, no way my folks were giving any of them up, plus a fraction of your income has to go towards the church, this was before the celtic tiger era so in no way we were well off, but they came in and had the chat and said prayers at our kitchen table. I don't remember any of this as I would have been maybe 3 or 4 at the time, my older sister remembers them playing with us out our back garden and even she said they were lovely.

    Also on one particular day they were over for a visit, my dad knew he had to dig the garden and he just wasn't in the mood for doing it, the Mormon guy gets up and says "I'll do it" and went out to the shed and got a pickaxe and a shovel, he was only happy to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭dersawazzie


    A few years back I worked in a jehovahs witness believers house. He asked me if he could talk to me about it, I said work away while I'm here. He asked me my beliefs, this is kind of how things went.

    I told him I believe in god, right over wrong, being a good person and no matter what guise you worship under you can't go far wrong with that philosophy, and if that wasn't enough then I would just accept it.

    He told me I was going to hell. Point blank, no ifs or buts. I asked him if Mother Teresa had gone to hell, she hadn't long died which is why I used her in the conversation. He said she had gone to hell irrespective of the life she had led.

    Needless to say it didn't really develop from there, although upon leaving I thanked him for
    the conversation and said see you again next year. I remember clearly him saying , maybe you will maybe you won't , the time is coming, there is still time for you brother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    looksee wrote: »
    He didn't really tear it into ten pieces, he stuck it in his pocket. It makes a better story tearing it up though. Have you done the math about how you would tear something as small as a business card into ten pieces?

    I concur


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,723 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Why do people feel the need to lie to them? Why not treat them like any other salesperson and tell them you're happy with your eternal life supplier. Or tell them you're not in the market for their product.

    Salespeople might start a conversation with questions about something unrelated to the product they're selling but if you are honest and tell them you won't be buying their product then their interest in the answer to the opening question tends to dry up fairly lively.
    looksee wrote: »
     math
    Here you forgot one of these "S"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Here you forgot one of these "S"

    Lolz :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭REXER


    I treat them the same way as I handle catholics, politicians and other assorted nut jobs, a quick no thank you and if they get pushy then a sharp feck off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee




    Here you forgot one of these "S"

    Yes :D I noticed as soon as I had posted that I had done the irritating American thing of making it singular, but I couldn't be bothered changing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 swazzie


    We constantly get the Mormons door knocking here in brisbane. Dinner time they turn up , it's always a mum and a couple of kids in tow, harder to close the door in some poor kid face, who is being dragged from house to house when people are having their dinner .

    The Jehovah are a different matter, they ignore the signs that say don't knock or leave junk mail and stick their flyers everywhere.
    So we have two dogs , both labs and would hold the door open for robbers while waging their tails.
    One of them has a vicious sounding bark though ,so when the Jehovahs arrive I stick him behind the door , where there can't see the smiley face and he barks at them.
    They almost always ask is the dog friendly, I say not really ,then they run off
    Works every time.
    Meanwhile I've to hold the dog as all he wants to do is get out and lick the person.ðŸ˜


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,723 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    looksee wrote: »
    Yes :D I noticed as soon as I had posted that I had done the irritating American thing of making it singular, but I couldn't be bothered changing it.

    Thanks for taking that in good spirit (or is it spirits)?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    conorh91 wrote: »
    I don't really see what would fill you with pride about such an act of anger.

    A simple no thanks will do.

    We get a few Jehovas witness/ doomsday types at my gaff, but a simple "no thanks" with a smile (costs nothing) is perfectly effective. Tearing up business cards in their faces is stress that neither of you need in your day.

    I don't think he means he tore it up in front of them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Brego888 wrote: »
    Why did you feel the need to tear it up into 10 pieces? Why not just discard it in the bin?
    Seems a bit showy to me.

    One piece for each commandment of course! Op was bibled and he didn't even know it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭OU812


    Had a couple of elderly ladies call to the door the other morning.

    They asked if I'd have time to talk, I said I was a little busy with two young kids and was trying to get out for a walk. They pressed on, meanwhile the kids came out to the hall to see who was at the door.

    Them: "Do you think there'll be peace in our time?"
    Me: "Is this political or religious?"
    Them: "We're trying to spread the word"
    Me: "I'm sorry, I didn't want to waste your time, I'm an atheist"
    Them: "You don't believe in God at all?"
    Me: "No, nothing at all.
    Them: "But what about if your beautiful children injured themselves or got sick, who would you pray to?"
    Me: "Nobody. Medical science would make them better, Doctors & medicine, no God"
    Them: "But you do realise where your beautiful children came from?"
    Me: Yes, I had sex many times with my beautiful wife, who they thankfully get their good looks from..."
    Them: "No God?"
    Me: "No".
    Them: "None?"
    Me: Not at all. Science - Biology, Chemistry, Physics"
    Them: "Good day"
    Me: "And You..." / Close door...


    I *think* they were JWs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Dozer Dave wrote: »
    Just give them five minutes of your time, I don't get the faux autrage at them.

    My son was studying for the LC a few years back when they called. He was still trying to get rid of them 10 minutes later. I decided to intervene.

    "My son is trying to study for the LC and you won't let him close the door."

    "We're sorry, but we just want to talk about Jesus Chr..."

    "Haven't you heard? He died. 2000 years ago. And he's never coming back."

    To say that their faces fell would be a gross understatement. To quote Jim Carrey, "The truth shall set you free!" (from Mormons and JWs)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Cen taurus


    If I've time, I always invite them in for a cup of tea.
    I find them grand as people when you get talking to them, I've no interest in changing religion though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Pie and Mash


    Open door , say no thanks, close door.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Be polite and say your busy or not interested or whatever. Do the same with door to door sales people as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    ads20101 wrote: »
    76 virgins - a bit too much work and a bit sore after a while

    However......

    76 whores - just call me Jehovah - I'm converted ;)

    Would have to agree. The virgins are virgins for a reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭Golaco


    One summer when i was about 12 and was home from school two old ladies called to the door to talk about religion. I had ho idea what Jehovah's witnesses were, just assumed they were mental

    Must have talked to them for about an hour telling them why there was no such thing as god. Think they struggled to refute any of my points. In my memory it went very much like the Stephen Fry interview with Gaybo.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,731 ✭✭✭✭coolhull


    When I see them coming I pick up a plunger and answer the door. When I ask if they know anything about unblocking toilets, they usually back away diplomatically. Of course, one of these days one of them will actually be a plumber by trade, and I will have to rethink my strategy.
    But I see no point in being deliberately rude to anyone,


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