New Welder

Sami23

Need to get a new welder and have narrowed it down to these two. Have any of ye got either of these or could give advice on which might be better to buy. Would be just for general use around farm, maby making some feed barriers if I build a shed etc.
Or have any of ye dealt with Wholesale Welding Supplies and what are they like to deal with.
Thanks

http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=45_69_649&product_id=1330

http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=45_69_649&product_id=1948

dzer2

Have never dealt with that company But have an inverter welder here. Went with a better brand and have mig/arc on the one. Just find that these welders are not heavy enough for continuous welding but are adequate for all other projects. A welder should last yrs so I wouldn't scrimp on the price.

Reggie.

Sami23 wrote: »

Need to get a new welder and have narrowed it down to these two. Have any of ye got either of these or could give advice on which might be better to buy. Would be just for general use around farm, maby making some feed barriers if I build a shed etc.
Or have any of ye dealt with Wholesale Welding Supplies and what are they like to deal with.
Thanks

http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=45_69_649&product_id=1330

http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=45_69_649&product_id=1948

Buy all my welding stuff from that company and find them great. Never any bother with anything I bought do don't know what the returns policy would be like

sea12

Sami23 wrote: »

Need to get a new welder and have narrowed it down to these two. Have any of ye got either of these or could give advice on which might be better to buy. Would be just for general use around farm, maby making some feed barriers if I build a shed etc.
Or have any of ye dealt with Wholesale Welding Supplies and what are they like to deal with.
Thanks

http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=45_69_649&product_id=1330

http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=45_69_649&product_id=1948

Bought the second one from them last year. Delivered no prob. Good welder for small projects I would be working on

Sami23

sea12 wrote: »

Bought the second one from them last year. Delivered no prob. Good welder for small projects I would be working on

That's good to hear. Gonna go with the 2nd one myself too. By the way is it just an ordinary 13 amp 3 pin plug you have on it.

kay 9

For a few euro more this be a much better investment. Never rated them parweld machines tbh. Esab have better rep. http://www.caulfieldindustrial.com/esab-buddy-arc-180-amp-inverter-stick--tig-welder/p-e13489pd.html great value imo.

sea12

Sami23 wrote: »

That's good to hear. Gonna go with the 2nd one myself too. By the way is it just an ordinary 13 amp 3 pin plug you have on it.

Yep

Limestone Cowboy

kay 9 wrote: »

For a few euro more this be a much better investment. Never rated them parweld machines tbh. Esab have better rep. http://www.caulfieldindustrial.com/esab-buddy-arc-180-amp-inverter-stick--tig-welder/p-e13489pd.html great value imo.

Actually bought that exact welder and an auto dimming hat last week. Auld fella reckons its a great yoke.

kay 9

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Actually bought that exact welder and an auto dimming hat last week. Auld fella reckons its a great yoke.

Smooth little welder. Good choice. As good or better than 5-600 euro inverters. I'm considering getting one as the yoke we have is starting to get a little erratic.

Zr105

Have the 160 probably 3 years and it's nearly been abused at times to be honest, it will weld all day long at around 100-120amps turn it up above 120 and on a 13amp plug you'll start popping fuses if you try to push rod after rod through it. Can't fault it tho to be honest. Nice welder to weld with and heavy but not to heavy, have had it over the shoulder a few times and you'd do a nice bit before you'd get fed up holding it

Have bought other stuff off wholesale and got a few mix ups, the courier just landed back in the yard the next day with the correct stuff and took back anything if that was the case.

einn32

Bought a parweld five years ago. Never gave any trouble. I just use it for small jobs like fixing up gates etc.

O.A.P

I got this deal off them a few year ago, it was a little more expensive at the time .
I'm very happy with it has done all that I have asked of it so far without any problems

Zr105

O.A.P wrote: »

I got this deal off them a few year ago, it was a little more expensive at the time .
I'm very happy with it has done all that I have asked of it so far without any problems

Yeah it was the same deal we got!

Sami23

O.A.P wrote: »

I got this deal off them a few year ago, it was a little more expensive at the time .
I'm very happy with it has done all that I have asked of it so far without any problems

Yeah well the other welder is made by Parweld also and just bit more powerful at 200amps versus the 160amps of the Parweld so should be a good yoke

Jonblack

Got the the 200amp last year on a deal. Went for the 200 just to have spare power have 16 amp plug fitted but use it mostly on 13 amp socket using an adapter. Has worked o.k for me and find wws good to deal with (they do answer the phone).Looked at the Esab but it was a lot dearer. Also have used a 20 meter extension lead (16 amp) no prob.

ford 5600

I bought a Thermal-Arc 175 and auto darkening helmet at the ploughing in 2011 for €300. Very handy tool. Same as above, over 120 amps it blows fuses for sport . A USA company, but made in their Chinese factory. I have a heavier fan cooled welder that stays in the shed for bigger jobs, but the inverter is invaluable for on site repair jobs, you will have them done and tools put away before you have an ordinary arc welder dragged out. I probably would buy another. Something like a Fronius would be a better inverter , but more or less double the money to buy.

Nekarsulm

And you can run them on a small generator, unlike normal arc welders. Which need a substantial Genny to work properly

Zr105

Nekarsulm wrote: »

And you can run them on a small generator, unlike normal arc welders. Which need a substantial Genny to work properly

Still needs to be a fairly decent genny, the minimum reckomended is 7.5kva for the 160 but ideally it's seems people would rather it be a 10kva.. Still it is small i suppose compared to what you would need for a normal air cooled.

And just when I see it mentioned above, had no problems running the 160 on the end of a 50m 13amp extension reel. Wound out to the last and power only at around 110amps but not a hint of heat in the line thankfully!

Nekarsulm

I was told that it would take a 20 kva Pto driven one to run a 180 amp oil cooled model.

ford 5600

Nekarsulm wrote: »

And you can run them on a small generator, unlike normal arc welders. Which need a substantial Genny to work properly

As far as I am concerned , the genny is a big no no. I tried it with a 6.5 kva genny, and it welded an inch before It packed up. Took it back to where I bought it. I was told it could be one of two things, the card, in which case It wasn't worth fixing, or something onto the style of a glorified fuse, which it was and cost 32 euro to fix. I was lucky it was only that, and wouldn't dream of trying it again.

Reggie.

Zr105 wrote: »

Still needs to be a fairly decent granny, the minimum reckomended is 7.5kva for the 160 but ideally it's seems people would rather it be a 10kva.. Still it is small i suppose compared to what you would need for a normal air cooled.

And just when I see it mentioned above, had no problems running the 160 on the end of a 50m 13amp extension reel. Wound out to the last and power only at around 110amps but not a hint of heat in the line thankfully!

Which you you consider the better of the two then. The 160 or 200?

Zr105

Reggie. wrote: »

Which you you consider the better of the two then. The 160 or 200?

If going again Id consider the 200, but at the same time if your going above 120amps it really needs a 16amp plug, most of the welding it does is box or plate and I've never really been lacking power with it, 80-100amps should be plenty for 3-6mm wall box. anything that needs a real good burn in i bring up to the other shed with the air cooled, as the current power to workshop will only run the inverter...

satstheway

ford 5600 wrote: »

As far as I am concerned , the genny is a big no no. I tried it with a 6.5 kva genny, and it welded an inch before It packed up. Took it back to where I bought it. I was told it could be one of two things, the card, in which case It wasn't worth fixing, or something onto the style of a glorified fuse, which it was and cost 32 euro to fix. I was lucky it was only that, and wouldn't dream of trying it again.

Most inexpensive small genny's are unregulated output and are a big no no for anything with electronic circuits because of spikes. Lots of people run tvs and all of them but one bad spike 💥

foxy farmer

As a guide a gennie needs to be 3 times the kva/kw rating of the welder. Wouldn't run an inverter welder or anything electronic off a gennie unless it had an AVR fitted. Safer to hire a welding gennie.

les succulent ducks

The XTI160 are a great yoke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib-C9Rc6aJM

ALANC81

I was in Cooney & furlong today in Enniscorthy and there was a nice package deal on a 240V 200amp inverter welder mma,tig and mig with an auto dim head shield and a box of rods all for €230. The brand of welder escapes me now but that's a good deal for a 200amp welder.

O.A.P

ALANC81 wrote: »

I was in Cooney & furlong today in Enniscorthy and there was a nice package deal on a 240V 200amp inverter welder mma,tig and mig with an auto dim head shield and a box of rods all for €230. The brand of welder escapes me now but that's a good deal for a 200amp welder.

http://www.donedeal.ie/tools-for-sale/chainsaw-neilsen-58cc-petrol-3-6hp/9516649?offset=8
http://www.donedeal.ie/tools-for-sale/petrol-chainsaw-brand-new/9528656?offset=15
It matters a lot what brand it is though. If you think a 60 cc chainsaw can be bought new for 185 euro then great what a bargain.
I have learned to trust my instinct, if it sounds to good to be true then it is.

ALANC81

And sometimes cheap is cheerful we bought a bowing chainsaw from ALDI for €99 three years ago and it's still going strong and it's done a fair bit of work. It worked along side the sthill cutting the smaller stuff for three houses. I think there €69 now.

I even bought a welder from ALDI for €40 to see would it work more than anything else and so far iv made a trailer some hay racks and 5 large dog pens and fixed loads of things around the yard. Let's say it's well paid for its self.

We bought a 28cc strimer this morning for €158 but I'll have to let you how we get on with that.
Don't get me wrong brand names bring peace of mind but they also bring big price tags that not all of us can afford.