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Nuns get tshirt taken off the shelves in Arnotts

  • 05-03-2015 7:18pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭


    http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/arnotts-1975066-Mar2015/

    Good work as usual from the bored nuns outfit of Ruhama. It's amazing how people react to even a softly worded criticism these days. Arnotts falling over themselves to apologize for any offense.

    Bit of an overreaction surely. I've seen tshirts with a lot worse on them.

    Edit: For anyone who doesn't know, they're largely an offshoot of one of the orders of nuns responsible for magdalene laundries, so take any idea that they're actually concerned with women with a large grain of salt.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    the Ruhama bitches don't have much to do since their Magdalene laundries closed down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭todders


    I'm more disgusted that they associated pole dancers with prostitutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    todders wrote: »
    I'm more disgusted that they associated pole dancers with prostitutes.

    I agree, pole dancers are a waste of money


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    An adult male and young kid at a pole dance? Why would someone wear that? Kinda creepy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    todders wrote: »
    I'm more disgusted that they associated pole dancers with prostitutes.

    They're concerned with the objectification of women.

    I don't think Ruhama is run by nuns, either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭DubiousV


    Would love to know what Arnotts were thinking? Who's the target consumer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    DubiousV wrote: »
    Would love to know what Arnotts were thinking? Who's the target consumer?

    Topman used to stock waaaay worse than that back in the day.

    I remember a male friend wearing a shirt that said "To be Taken Orally Overnight" with a little red X on it. This was circa 2005 and there was no uproar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    Of course Arnott's had to do the Irish on it by apologizing and removing the 'offending' items, Lick asses that need to grow balls. The Nuns should have been told where to stick it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Pretty tasteless ****e and typical of the sexualisation of everything for a quick buck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    qt3.14 wrote: »
    http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/arnotts-1975066-Mar2015/

    Good work as usual from the bored nuns outfit of Ruhama. It's amazing how people react to even a softly worded criticism these days. Arnotts falling over themselves to apologize for any offense.

    Bit of an overreaction surely. I've seen tshirts with a lot worse on them.

    Edit: For anyone who doesn't know, they're largely an offshoot of one of the orders of nuns responsible for magdalene laundries, so take any idea that they're actually concerned with women with a large grain of salt.

    Another focking quango that receives government/taxpayer funding.
    Money well spent policing t-shirts.
    I see they missed the "if found return to the pub" ones.
    Knob heads.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭MonsterCookie


    Eh...the tshirt is ****ing tasteless...end of.


    Would those who are objecting feel differently if it was the parent of a young child that objected? Is it just the fact that it was some penguins that objected that is causing such ire???
    Glad to see arnotts have seen sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    In fairness that is pretty tasteless and only an idiot of the highest order would consider wearing it. In fact, it's disgusting and I'm glad it's been removed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    I don;t know who thought this would be a good idea
    A T-SHIRT SHOWING a Dad and his two sons watching a pole dancer




    I'm glad it's removed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Makes me wanna go out and pay for some whore to lash one into ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    bjork wrote: »
    I don;t know who thought this would be a good idea
    A T-SHIRT SHOWING a Dad and his two sons watching a pole dancer




    I'm glad it's removed

    while I agree its awful, if someone is stupid enough to wear it they should be allowed, I dont see how it directly offends anyone, and if some company is stupid enough to stock it they should be allowed ( read forced to loose a packet on it and have to give it away )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    If anything, it's offensive towards men..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    It's a horrible creepy looking yoke but they shouldn't have had to remove it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    while I agree its awful, if someone is stupid enough to wear it they should be allowed, I dont see how it directly offends anyone, and if some company is stupid enough to stock it they should be allowed ( read forced to loose a packet on it and have to give it away )

    Call me old fashioned but mixing children and porn situations is weird and creepy.

    Anyone who bought these should be put on a register and the purchasers in Arnotts added on it aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    bjork wrote: »
    Call me old fashioned but mixing children and porn situations is weird and creepy.

    Anyone who bought these should be put on a register and the purchasers in Arnotts added on it aswell

    What kind of register ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    eviltwin wrote: »
    What kind of register ?

    A cash register :pac:



    Only joking>>One that would involve them being monitored


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    I feel a bit weird finding myself on the same side of an argument as that awful bunch of Victorian prudes. Who the fukk okay'd a t-shirt with a large picture of small children at a titty bar?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    eviltwin wrote: »
    It's a horrible creepy looking yoke but they shouldn't have had to remove it.
    Nobody forced them to remove it; they chose to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    bjork wrote: »
    A cash register :pac:



    Only joking>>One that would involve them being monitored

    For buying a t-shirt?


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    while I agree its awful, if someone is stupid enough to wear it they should be allowed
    They are still allowed order it online or wherever else stocks it.

    Lots of people shop in Arnotts, and wouldn't like to feel they were financially supporting these tee-shirt manufacturers in some way.

    +1 for Arnott's for responding in this way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    K4t wrote: »
    Nobody forced them to remove it; they chose to.

    They were put under pressure to remove it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    eviltwin wrote: »
    It's a horrible creepy looking yoke but they shouldn't have had to remove it.

    Yeah, it's properly gross. It's just as gross towards the men and children (worse, eww) depicted leering at the woman as it is towards the woman depicted dancing in sexy gear for money though. In all fairness (and I am disgusted by the whole industry), it's not as if lapdancing doesn't exist. If a person is tasteless enough to think lapdancing is fine and dandy, it's not a huge stretch to think they'd be fine about wearing the t-shirt. But I'm not out there picketing lapdancing clubs, so why would I boycott the t-shirt?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    The tshirt may be tasteless but a lot of things are. And really it's not that bad. If we only accept things nobody will ever get offended by the world would be a pretty dull place. Id nearly buy that BECAUSE. People need to chill the fk out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    eviltwin wrote: »
    They were put under pressure to remove it.
    Great isn't it, democracy in action.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Reoil


    It's a ****ing **** t-shirt to be fair, so I think they did us a favour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Boskowski wrote: »
    The tshirt may be tasteless but a lot of things are. And really it's not that bad. If we only accept things nobody will ever get offended by the world would be a pretty dull place. Id nearly buy that BECAUSE. People need to chill the fk out.

    You're right of course we should have no restrictions on anything at all - complete anarchy is the only way. Is there any type of image on the shirt that you think might be going too far?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    K4t wrote: »
    Great isn't it, democracy in action.

    When was the vote?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    You're right of course we should have no restrictions on anything at all - complete anarchy is the only way. Is there any type of image on the shirt that you think might be going too far?

    Very little to be honest. What's your problem with the tshirt anyway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    This was circa 2005 and there was no uproar.

    Is there uproar now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    You're right of course we should have no restrictions on anything at all - complete anarchy is the only way. Is there any type of image on the shirt that you think might be going too far?

    Perhaps one that is against the law, at least? Let's start there eh? Last I checked, lapdancing was legal. Children watching lapdancing.....I don't know. That could be the decider....



    Edit: Just realised of course that my bf has the most disgusting t-shirt I've ever seen, which has been passed among his friends with equally sick humours (and then disallowed by their partners). It goes like this: http://rlv.zcache.ca/necrophilia_tshirt-radb4840ee30d487cabc0e9d1b5e7d33e_va6lr_324.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    c_man wrote: »
    When was the vote?
    1937


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    Shrap wrote: »
    Perhaps one that is against the law, at least? Let's start there eh? Last I checked, lapdancing was legal. Children watching lapdancing.....I don't know. That could be the decider....



    Edit: Just realised of course that my bf has the most disgusting t-shirt I've ever seen, which has been passed among his friends with equally sick humours (and then disallowed by their partners). It goes like this: http://rlv.zcache.ca/necrophilia_tshirt-radb4840ee30d487cabc0e9d1b5e7d33e_va6lr_324.jpg

    Do you not find it strange your boyfriend is "pretending*" to want to be like Jimmy Saville?


    * I hope he is pretending and it is not a statement of fact


    I'd check under the bed for a scrapbook of his hero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Boskowski wrote: »
    Very little to be honest. What's your problem with the tshirt anyway?
    Well my answer would be that it's a depiction of children being taken to a lap dancing club as if it's a rite of passage for all men. Making it offensive towards both men and women. However, we don't have the right not to be offended.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Shrap wrote: »
    Well my answer would be that it's a depiction of children being taken to a lap dancing club as if it's a rite of passage for all men. Making it offensive towards both men and women. However, we don't have the right not to be offended.


    Actually its a satire of a ladybird book, which is the joke. Much like the alternative titles to childrens books eg "You're different, and that's bad".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    bjork wrote: »
    Do you not find it strange your boyfriend is "pretending*" to want to be like Jimmy Saville?


    * I hope he is pretending and it is not a statement of fact


    I'd check under the bed for a scrapbook of his hero

    Well, as I have just stated that I don't have the right not to be offended, I won't spend much time on your disclaimer that you *hope* my boyfriend doesn't molest dead bodies.

    Suffice it to say that he wears it (actually, it may have disintegrated by now) for work, under his chainsaw gear, and rotates the offending article between other similarly cheap-ass t-shirts mainly inherited from my sons when they've got too worn out for them to be seen in.

    Hope that clears up your daily mail moment for you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    Shrap wrote: »
    Well my answer would be that it's a depiction of children being taken to a lap dancing club as if it's a rite of passage for all men. Making it offensive towards both men and women. However, we don't have the right not to be offended.

    You have the right to be offended but other people have the right not to be offended or not give a damn.

    Why does this even need being spelled out?

    Clearly nobody advocates for children to be taken to a pole dance club. The tshirt's sole purpose is to offend - mildly. The tshirt is aimed at the 'serial offended' and it seems to hit the spot as they duly oblige.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    They're concerned with the objectification of women.

    I don't think Ruhama is run by nuns, either.

    They're concerned with men wanting to have sex with women full stop. They don't approve of it. Read some of the stuff they put out. They're complete wackos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Nodin wrote: »
    Actually its a satire of a ladybird book, which is the joke. Much like the alternative titles to childrens books eg "You're different, and that's bad".

    Yeah, the apple-cheeked smiling kiddies would creep anyone out regardless of the message, in this day and age. Always was a bit disturbed by the ladybird pictures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Boskowski wrote: »
    You have the right to be offended but other people have the right not to be offended or not give a damn.

    You misinterpreted me. I said, and I quote
    However, we don't have the right not to be offended.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Jake Rugby Walrus666


    I disapprove with their right to say it, but I will defend to the death what they say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    Ye that escaped me. It still puzzles me a bit and I'm struggling to get what you're trying to say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    I disapprove with their right to say it, but I will defend to the death what they say.

    Wasn't that quote the other way around?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Boskowski wrote: »
    Clearly nobody advocates for children to be taken to a pole dance club. The tshirt's sole purpose is to offend - mildly. The tshirt is aimed at the 'serial offended' and it seems to hit the spot as they duly oblige.
    Some might.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Jake Rugby Walrus666


    Boskowski wrote: »
    Wasn't that quote the other way around?

    Come on dude - lighten up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Boskowski wrote: »
    Ye that escaped me. It still puzzles me a bit and I'm struggling to get what you're trying to say.

    Well, lots of things offend me. People believing in angels who spout crap (as I see it) about how something "was meant to be" or how "it's god's plan", for example. I find that offensive to hear, but I don't have the right not to hear it.

    I similarly don't have the right not to see something that offends me, like a t-shirt that gets on my nerves because it's designed to offend.


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