Ireland is not friendly enough to Muslim tourists

Irish Stones

According to a survey, Ireland is the least Islam-friendly country, second only to Mexico.
Muslims complain the lack of restaurant where they can have meals according their traditions and the lack of places for instant prayer.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ireland-one-of-least-muslim-friendly-countries-report-1.2125955

I think that when one visits a different country they should adapt to the way of life of that country.
I'm Italian and I travel to Ireland every year for my holidays, but I never complained for not finding enough restaurants that serve pasta and good wine, nor did I complain for not finding mixer taps in the bathrooms as often as here in Italy, or for the driving on the left-hand side of the roads.
I think that when one is travelling for tourism is for knowing other cultures and traditions, not for exporting their habits to the country they are visitng.
What is your opinion?

kneemos

Survey=results.

circadian

Decent fish and chips are a nightmare to find in Saudi Arabia. Put me off going.

When travelling to another part of the world you expect different cultures and customs. It's one of the great parts of travelling.

kylith

Well, it's it a pity about them.

I find Muslim countries not friendly enough to Western/female tourists. Where's my newspaper headline?

jank

Oh great, something else we can feel guilty for.

jamesbere

If a Muslim feels there are a lack of restaurants to cater for the traditional Muslim diet then why doesn't a Muslim set up a restaurant here if they feel there's a market for it.

I think Irish people are very accommodating but we can't cater for every culture

Banjo String

That'll be bad for the tourism industry prophets.

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kylith 94553304 wrote:

Well, it's it a pity about them.

I find Muslim countries not friendly enough to Western/female tourists. Where's my newspaper headline?

Here you go.... Boards News
kylith brands Muslim countries anti women

WesternZulu

How many Muslim countries ban alcohol; therein, denying Irish people the very fabric of what makes up their culture.

gozunda

It is most ironic that the In Place advert that appeared when I viewed this thread was as follows

Falafel & Kebab

Visiting Dublin ,Looking for Halal Food,then visit us in Temple Bar .

You couldn't make it up ...

beertons

Is there anything Muslims don't have a problem with.

kneemos

WesternZulu wrote: »

How many Muslim countries ban alcohol; therein, denying Irish people the very fabric of what makes up their culture.

It wasn't an attack on Ireland.
A survey was taken and these are the results.Similar to Irish people finding Australia too hot I'd imagine..
Basically more crap journalism.

bjork

Quick, ban everything

shruikan2553

Its like a vegan giving a bad review to a steak house.

NachoBusiness

When there's signs in restaurant and shop windows saying you would be as welcome as dog on their premises, come back to us lads.

Dravokivich

circadian wrote: »

Decent fish and chips are a nightmare to find in Saudi Arabia. Put me off going.

When travelling to another part of the world you expect different cultures and customs. It's one of the great parts of travelling.

Ah man... I'd fúcking love a fish & chips right now. with half a loaf of heavily buttered bread an a litre of milk to wash it down with.

circadian

Dravokivich wrote: »

Ah man... I'd fúcking love a fish & chips right now. with half a loaf of heavily buttered bread an a litre of milk to wash it down with.

Breakfast of hungover champions.

Eugene Norman

I had a great drinking session in Mecca's tourist based irish pubs though. It would be nice to reciprocate.

kneemos

We go out of our way to cater for tourists of all sorts .Why not Muslims,huge demographic.

We're definitely missing a trick here.

Tea 1000

kneemos wrote: »

We go out of our way to cater for tourists of all sorts .Why not Muslims,huge demographic.

We're definitely missing a trick here.

We don't go out of our way to cater for tourists of all sorts. We go out of our way to cater for what we think will make the most money. If there's more money to be made in halal restaurants, then you can be sure more will start appearing.
Places that exist to suit the American tourists for example aren't there because we want them to feel happy while they're here, they exist because we want their money.

clever user name

Yeah cool no problem we can fix all that for you... just have my pork and beer ready for next time I visit Saudi!!

Grayson

Irish Stones wrote: »

According to a survey, Ireland is the least Islam-friendly country, second only to Mexico.
Muslims complain the lack of restaurant where they can have meals according their traditions and the lack of places for instant prayer.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ireland-one-of-least-muslim-friendly-countries-report-1.2125955

I think that when one visits a different country they should adapt to the way of life of that country.
I'm Italian and I travel to Ireland every year for my holidays, but I never complained for not finding enough restaurants that serve pasta and good wine, nor did I complain for not finding mixer taps in the bathrooms as often as here in Italy, or for the driving on the left-hand side of the roads.
I think that when one is travelling for tourism is for knowing other cultures and traditions, not for exporting their habits to the country they are visitng.
What is your opinion?

And yet the most popular holiday destination for people in the UK & Ireland is the south of spain. Which is about as spanish as Eastenders.

I can understand the Halal thing. It's the same for jewish people. Anyone who's been backpacking in South America will tell you that the number of kosher restaurant is silly. They're everywhere. You end up in some backend village and there's a restaurant with Kosher written on the door.

So many Israeli backpackers head to South America after they finish their military service that all the locals have begun to accommodate them. That made it even more Israeli friendly and that means even more go there. There's Israeli tour groups, Israeli hostels, Israeli everything really.

There's a subsection of very religious ones who carry pots everywhere. They do this because according to the strictest kosher rules they need to use separate pots for separate food stuffs. And you can't mix the pots up. But there are still special hostels where they can buy kosher meat etc and are provided with Kosher kitchens to prepare the food in. It's entirely possible for an Israeli to go to most of South America and never have to interact with a non-Israeli.

This isn't having a go at Israeli's/jews. It's just to point out that muslims are not the only group like that. Irish/English people go to Spain where they get an experience exactly like home except sunnier. Israeli's/Jews will go where they find the locals accommodate them. Muslims will too.

bjork

There are many halal outlets from fast food to fine dining, not to mention a number of dedicated halal convenience stores dedicated to serving Ireland’s growing Muslim community.Most of Ireland’s top hotels will provide quality halal menus upon advance request. Some of those hotels include: http://www.ireland.com/en-ar/campaign/feature-campaign/halal-food-in-ireland/

Also here's another list of Halal place http://www.zabihah.com/reg/jKEZPl3SOm
That's just a quick search, there's probably more

Aren't "subway" and all those halal now aswell?

Lapin

Muslims quick to point out our failings but happily ignore all our dog friendly hotels.

OldNotWIse

jank wrote: »

Oh great, something else we can feel guilty for.

I don't.

drumswan

Grayson wrote: »

And yet the most popular holiday destination for people in the UK & Ireland is the south of spain.

Says who?

sbsquarepants

Irish Stones wrote: »

According to a survey, Ireland is the least Islam-friendly country, second only to Mexico.
Muslims complain the lack of restaurant where they can have meals according their traditions and the lack of places for instant prayer.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ireland-one-of-least-muslim-friendly-countries-report-1.2125955

I think that when one visits a different country they should adapt to the way of life of that country.
I'm Italian and I travel to Ireland every year for my holidays, but I never complained for not finding enough restaurants that serve pasta and good wine, nor did I complain for not finding mixer taps in the bathrooms as often as here in Italy, or for the driving on the left-hand side of the roads.
I think that when one is travelling for tourism is for knowing other cultures and traditions, not for exporting their habits to the country they are visitng.
What is your opinion?

Fúck them - How easy do you reckon it is to get a few scoops and a battered sausage on the way home in Saudi Arabia?

Grayson

drumswan wrote: »

Says who?

Me.

If you want we can include Portugal, The Canaries, Greek islands, Cyprus and Turkey.

Even though cities like London, New York etc... are popular destinations the most popular vacation type destinations are all sunny and about as cultural as a plate of fish and chips. And you can be as pedantic as you want but you can't deny that those locations have a very large mass appeal in Ireland/UK.

And no, I'm not saying everyone goes there. Loads of people like to back pack or go on city breaks etc... And there are probably loads of muslims like that too.

bb1234567

lol just lol
double standards overload

Joya

yea, when i read this "news" i thought what a bunch of bs lol
have many muslim friends and they have no probs at all..

sbsquarepants

Grayson wrote: »

Me.

If you want we can include Portugal, The Canaries, Greek islands, Cyprus and Turkey.

Even though cities like London, New York etc... are popular destinations the most popular vacation type destinations are all sunny and about as cultural as a plate of fish and chips. And you can be as pedantic as you want but you can't deny that those locations have a very large mass appeal in Ireland/UK.

And no, I'm not saying everyone goes there. Loads of people like to back pack or go on city breaks etc... And there are probably loads of muslims like that too.

Sometimes it's nice to go experience new things and new cultures, see the sites expand your horizons and see how other people do things, and sometimes it's nice to just drink beer in the sunshine while semi naked women walk past.

drumswan

Grayson wrote: »

Even though cities like London, New York etc... are popular destinations

Yeah, far more popular than the south of Spain.

NachoBusiness

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Places that exist to suit the American tourists for example aren't there because we want them to feel happy while they're here, they exist because we want their money.

And, we have to exaggerate our 'Irishness' to appeal to them. Leprechaun museums and the like. Not just with Americans, tourists from all nations come here and try and take in what we have to offer. Muslims stick out like a sore thumb as not giving two fcuks about the culture they are in. They seem to want the world to change in order to accommodate them, in almost every single aspect. Not that I think bringing your own culture and traditions to another country is a bad thing, the Irish did it for centuries but the two things should not be mutually exclusive.

Grayson

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Sometimes it's nice to go experience new things and new cultures, see the sites expand your horizons and see how other people do things, and sometimes it's nice to just drink beer in the sunshine while semi naked women walk past.

I've been on one package holidays. I do prefer to head to a city or something for a few days. The package holiday was a last minute deal with a friend who needed to get away. It was nice but a bit dull.

murpho999

Irish Stones wrote: »

According to a survey, Ireland is the least Islam-friendly country, second only to Mexico.
Muslims complain the lack of restaurant where they can have meals according their traditions and the lack of places for instant prayer.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ireland-one-of-least-muslim-friendly-countries-report-1.2125955

I think that when one visits a different country they should adapt to the way of life of that country.
I'm Italian and I travel to Ireland every year for my holidays, but I never complained for not finding enough restaurants that serve pasta and good wine, nor did I complain for not finding mixer taps in the bathrooms as often as here in Italy, or for the driving on the left-hand side of the roads.
I think that when one is travelling for tourism is for knowing other cultures and traditions, not for exporting their habits to the country they are visitng.
What is your opinion?

For me this is the most serious issue you raise. I can't understand why Ireland has separate cold & hot taps in this day and age. Washing your hands means either blisters or frostbite.
That said in other countries I have found that public bathrooms only offer cold water!

drumswan

murpho999 wrote: »

For me this is the most serious issue you raise. I can't understand why Ireland has separate cold & hot taps in this day and age. Washing your hands means either blisters or frostbite.

There is usually a sink under the taps there. You can mix water in it.

Grayson

drumswan wrote: »

Yeah, far more popular than the south of Spain.

say who?

I googled like mad and couldn't find anything for the most popular destinations for Irish people. I found something about the most popular cities but that's a bit different. Most sun holidays wouldn't qualify to be on a city list.
When I checked for UK people (despite our protestations they are very similar in their tastes) I found the the US was first on the list. But that included stuff like disneyland and florida sun holidays. The next 4 countries on the list were all sun holiday destinations.

now, be pedantic all you want, but like I said before you can't deny that the Costa del Sol type destinations are hugely popular here.

Aren't they happy that Subway are serving Halal? I have absolutely no idea why they'd visit Ireland anyway if it's so incompatible.. I mean seriously, can they not just go places that accommodate them.

murpho999

drumswan wrote: »

There is usually a sink under the taps there. You can mix water in it.

Sorry but in most bathrooms (public ones) there is no stopper.

Who washes their hands that way after using the toilet anyway?

Stone Deaf 4evr

murpho999 wrote: »

Sorry but in most bathrooms (public ones) there is no stopper.

Who washes their hands that way after using the toilet anyway?

I'd have more of a problem with the fact that the hand dryers never work.

MuchoLoco

I drove by a person wearing a Burqa and a set of sunglasses yeserday is this Legal here in Ireland ??

murpho999

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

I'd have more of a problem with the fact that the hand dryers never work.

That's what the backs of jeans were invented for.

somesoldiers

MuchoLoco wrote: »

I drove by a person wearing a Burqa and a set of sunglasses yeserday is this Legal here in Ireland ??

no, you should have stopped and offered them a lift

bjork

MuchoLoco wrote: »

I drove by a person wearing a Burqa and a set of sunglasses yeserday is this Legal here in Ireland ??

Sunglasses in March certainly is

Stone Deaf 4evr

murpho999 wrote: »

That's what the backs of jeans were invented for.

I can't do that, its against my religious beliefs. how dare you be so racist. :pac:

murpho999

MuchoLoco wrote: »

I drove by a person wearing a Burqa and a set of sunglasses yeserday is this Legal here in Ireland ??

As far as I know there are no legal issues with you wearing a Burqa and sunglasses whilst driving.

seamus

If anything we should be making moves to outlaw halal and kosher meats, not moving to make them more freely available. They're barbaric and unnecessary.

There's plenty of food available in Ireland that's halal and kosher friendly. Just avoid the meat and you won't offend your god.

MuchoLoco

somesoldiers wrote: »

no, you should have stopped and offered them a lift

Sorry I didn't explain myself to well the other person was driving a car.

kylith

murpho999 wrote: »

For me this is the most serious issue you raise. I can't understand why Ireland has separate cold & hot taps in this day and age. Washing your hands means either blisters or frostbite.
That said in other countries I have found that public bathrooms only offer cold water!

In some places it's because the system for cold water would have been installed before there was the capacity for heated water, so the hot tap was just added on.

A lot of places also don't have a hot tap to stop people from wasting it by not turning the tap off properly.

Mesrine65

They must not be looking too hard :rolleyes:

http://www.zabihah.com/sub/Ireland/Dublin/oDNvTGGpK8

Un Croissant

MuchoLoco wrote: »

I drove by a person wearing a Burqa and a set of sunglasses yeserday is this Legal here in Ireland ??

Only if she was wearing a pair of luminous Nike trainers under it.