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Bands ahead of their time.

  • 03-03-2015 10:48am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭ IamNotNumber


    Listening to Big Black the legendary seattle band and I was amazed to hear this EP from 1982.Surely this band was at least 10 years ahead of their time.

    "Lungs is the first EP by American Post-hardcore band Big Black. It was released in December 1982 on Ruthless Records, and was reissued in 1992 on Touch & Go Records.A 19-year-old Steve Albini played nearly every instrument on Lungs, with "sax bleats" by Albini's college friend John Bohnen and drums being handled by "Roland," a drum machine that was credited as a member of the band.
    First track steelworker reminds me of Death in Vegas Aishia, but the whole Ep sounds like it could have being released yesterday.



    Steve Albini of course needs no introduction having produced and played in some of seattle most icon bands( Nirvana,Shellac).
    Any other bands who seem to be a good few years ahead of their contemporaries? I would say Pixies and SY might fall into this category.Even in todays world anyone doing something that might be considered ahead of their time once we have the benefit of hindsight looking back in ten years?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭ O'Neill


    Think 'Oscillations' by Silver Apples was way ahead of its time, that song made was made in 1968! Madness


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭ IamNotNumber


    O'Neill wrote: »
    Think 'Oscillations' by Silver Apples was way ahead of its time, that song made was made in 1968! Madness

    Thats well cool! ..I'll post it to save others looking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭ Irish_rat


    Surely this band was at least 10 years ahead of their time.

    I would say Pixies and SY might fall into this category.Even in todays world anyone doing something that might be considered ahead of their time once we have the benefit of hindsight looking back in ten years?

    Radiohead the most modern influence IMO, Kid A is decades ahead of its time. Possibly Funeral too by AF.

    Influences such as The Smiths, Pixies, The Cure, Joy Division, SY etc. will remain the biggest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭ IamNotNumber


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Radiohead the most modern influence IMO, Kid A is decades ahead of its time. Possibly Funeral too by AF.

    Influences such as The Smiths, Pixies, The Cure, Joy Division, SY etc. will remain the biggest.

    Dunno about KID A possibly ..have never listened to it ..(gets coat ->Leaves Forum) but AF great albums but of the times rather than ahead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,113 ✭✭✭ S.M.B.


    I wouldn't say that Kid A is ahead of it's time and that's coming from a very big fan of the album.

    It was more an example of a band on the brink of superstardom taking influence from non mainstream sources.

    I think that philosophy always existed to a certain extent.

    I think Slints spiderland still sounds like it could have been recorded only a year ago but I'm not sure if that's more standing the test of time as opposed to being ahead of it's time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭ eviltimeban


    Kid A was not ahead of its time. They were taking influences from stuff that had been around for about a decade, stretching all the way back to Eno.

    Big Star I always felt were ahead of their time - that jangly, guitary stuff became really popular in the 90s but they were two decades behind! Some of their songs could've been hits in the 90s.

    Seefeel made a great album in 1993 that sounded way ahead of what other "shoegaze" bands were doing, it was more ambient electronic and had very little to do with "rock" music at all. Slowdive followed a similar path in 1995 with Pygmalion and only now are they getting the respect the deserved. OK, I don't necessarily think they were ahead of their time, but they certainly have more cred now than they did back then.

    The Beta Band never really broke through but they were very influential at the time, but people don't really mention them any more. "The Three EPs" is a sublime record. In fact, I'm going to listen to it right now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 CatMalojinBlog


    Kid Creole and the Coconuts


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭ smackbunnybaby


    I was thinking someone like The Wipers, formed as a Punk band in 1977.
    But this sounds like a blue print for the Nirvana and the likes!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,063 ✭✭✭✭ Birneybau


    Aphex Twin's 'Selected Ambient Works 85-92' left a long lasting legacy. Doubt there would have been a 'Kid A' without it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selected_Ambient_Works_85%E2%80%9392


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭ Anesthetize


    Wipers are one of my favourite punk bands and their first 3 albums have been acknowledged as major influences on a lot of alternative and indie rock. Nirvana also covered two songs of theirs, D-7 and Return of the Rat.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭ Dandelion6


    The Red Crayola were doing post-punk in the 1960s.


  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭ daUbiq


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Aphex Twin's 'Selected Ambient Works 85-92' left a long lasting legacy. Doubt there would have been a 'Kid A' without it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selected_Ambient_Works_85%E2%80%9392

    I reckon Autechre are a bigger influence on Kid A...


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,063 ✭✭✭✭ Birneybau


    daUbiq wrote: »
    I reckon Autechre are a bigger influence on Kid A...

    Fair enough but I reckon the album I mentioned influenced a helluva lot of modern stuff. :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 fiachr_a


    Dcbasehead - Playing with toys. It came out in the early '90s. People in the shop laughed that I bought the album as it sounded too weird. A few years later Beck arrived with the same sound and everyone got into it. Here's a track:



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭ eviltimeban


    If you want to slide slightly to "albums before their time", Paul McCartney's "McCartney II" was more or less rubbished at the time but is now held up as some kind of electro-masterpiece (see [URL="[url]http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15536-mccartney-mccartney-ii/?utm_campaign=search&utm_medium=site&utm_source=search-ac[/url]"]this [/URL]Pitchfork review).

    Some of it is a bit mad but there's a track called Secret Friend which is like an ambient dance track. And Check My Machine is very like the Beta Band (who I mentioned earlier).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 fiachr_a


    Curve doing what Garbage would do a few years later.



    Botany 5 doing what The farm would do a few years later.



    The lurkers doing what Stone Roses would do a few years later.



  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭ daUbiq


    Gotta agree with that - Garbage totally copied Curve! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭ IamNotNumber


    Interesting article ..this is amazing(but ****e to listen to) from 1958!



    http://www.cracked.com/article_19094_6-songs-that-were-decades-ahead-groundbreaking-music.html


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 fiachr_a


    Here's drum and bass from 1982, a decade early!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭ IamNotNumber


    Given the way this thread is heading anyone got music from the 40's or earlier that LCD soundsystem or someone just completely ripped off?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 fiachr_a


    Well that famous rock and roll song Blue moon song is taken from some classical music tune from about 1910. Andrew Lloyd Webber seems to 'borrow' a lot of older classical stuff for his songs. There's a Disney movie from the late 1970s called Black Stallion where someone plays the Chariots of fire theme on a flute. But that movie didn't get released until a few years later. Then there's the Mutiny on the Bounty movie from about 1962 when in the last ten minutes the orchestra on the soundtrack starts playing the Jaws theme when a shark appeared. This was over a decade before that movie came out. Wouldn't know much about LCD soundsystem though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭ IamNotNumber


    fiachr_a wrote: »
    Well that famous rock and roll song Blue moon song is taken from some classical music tune from about 1910. Andrew Lloyd Webber seems to 'borrow' a lot of older classical stuff for his songs. There's a Disney movie from the late 1970s called Black Stallion where someone plays the Chariots of fire theme on a flute. But that movie didn't get released until a few years later. Then there's the Mutiny on the Bounty movie from about 1962 when in the last ten minutes the orchestra on the soundtrack starts playing the Jaws theme when a shark appeared. This was over a decade before that movie came out. Wouldn't know much about LCD soundsystem though.

    That was just a joke really but thanks for the interesting information!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 fiachr_a


    Anyone into Philip Glass/Steve Reich/John Adams? Check this music out from the 1930s.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,294 ✭✭✭✭ Rothko


    The Monks. They were around in the mid-60's but sound like they could have been a part of the punk rock scene in the 70's.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,294 ✭✭✭✭ Rothko


    Big Star I always felt were ahead of their time - that jangly, guitary stuff became really popular in the 90s but they were two decades behind! Some of their songs could've been hits in the 90s.

    I think they sound very 60's-ish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,214 STG.Otaku


    daUbiq wrote: »
    I reckon Autechre are a bigger influence on Kid A...

    I'd say Model 500/Juan Atkins, Dave Angel, Derrick May, Joey Beltram and Jeff Mills were even bigger influences on all of those.

    May I add Roy Ayers, Weather Report and Goblin to the master list as well? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭ IamNotNumber



    They invented something in 1979 ,,prehaps the aphex twin ,,off their bleeding rockers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 fiachr_a


    Always thought Ocean colour scene were the same band as Corduroy with vocals added!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭ eviltimeban


    fiachr_a wrote: »
    Always thought Ocean colour scene were the same band as Corduroy with vocals added!

    Weren't they out around the same time though?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭ noby


    Plus, Ocean Colour Scene were distinctly retro, so sounding like them wouldn't exactly make you ahead of your time. That's like saying Dr. Feelgood were ahead of their time because The Strypes.


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