Satellite wiring new build

mburke

Folks,

Wondering if anyone has advise on how best to cable a new build for satellite / tv services.
It will be a mix of saorview (aerial), freesat and sky hd box. Plan to have network data points in certain rooms and wireless broadband available also.

paulhardman

mburke wrote: »

Folks,

Wondering if anyone has advise on how best to cable a new build for satellite / tv services.
It will be a mix of saorview (aerial), freesat and sky hd box. Plan to have network data points in certain rooms and wireless broadband available also.

What I did, rightly or wrongly, is have our electrician run 2x Coax and 4x CAT6 to every TV point, and bring them all back to the back of one of the bedrooms, plus also 6 coax to the loft. I then had a Triax dish and quattro LNB installed, running to a multiswitch in said bedroom.

Running off this multiswitch is a Sky+ HD box, a Freesat PVR and a regular FTA sat box. All these are fed via HDMI into a matrix switch (along with the Apple TV), which drives the 4 TVs using HDMI to CAT 6 boxes.

IR control is done using 1 of the coax runs from the TV points back to a IR blaster, leaving the other one free for anything else - one of those TVs has a built in satellite tuner so that gets one of the feeds from the multiswitch too. The coax that is doing the IR control has a DTT feed, so that puts Saorview on each of the TVs too!

Only problem is when the matrix goes on the fritz and the wife rings me asking why she can't watch the fxxking TV

The Cush

mburke wrote: »

Wondering if anyone has advise on how best to cable a new build for satellite / tv services.
It will be a mix of saorview (aerial), freesat and sky hd box.

For my brother's house we ran 4 co-ax from the main room to the attic (2x sat, 1x aerial, 1x spare/return) and 2 to each other room (1x aerial, 1x sat).

Better to be looking at the cable than looking for it if required in future, run the extra cable before everything gets covered in plaster.

mburke

paulhardman wrote: »

What I did, rightly or wrongly, is have our electrician run 2x Coax and 4x CAT6 to every TV point, and bring them all back to the back of one of the bedrooms, plus also 6 coax to the loft. I then had a Triax dish and quattro LNB installed, running to a multiswitch in said bedroom.

Running off this multiswitch is a Sky+ HD box, a Freesat PVR and a regular FTA sat box. All these are fed via HDMI into a matrix switch (along with the Apple TV), which drives the 4 TVs using HDMI to CAT 6 boxes.

IR control is done using 1 of the coax runs from the TV points back to a IR blaster, leaving the other one free for anything else - one of those TVs has a built in satellite tuner so that gets one of the feeds from the multiswitch too. The coax that is doing the IR control has a DTT feed, so that puts Saorview on each of the TVs too!

Only problem is when the matrix goes on the fritz and the wife rings me asking why she can't watch the fxxking TV

That is some setup.

Tony

I think the most important thing is to use good quality cable. CAI approved is a good guide.

gerry sat

Tony wrote: »

I think the most important thing is to use good quality cable. CAI approved is a good guide.

Or use FIBRE, much better system and very very very low loss, on both satellite and DTT signal.
But better getting someone who knows what there doing, proper fibre meter and equipment.

regards,

gerry

Tony

Indeed yes better again

gerry sat wrote: »

Or use FIBRE, much better system and very very very low loss, on both satellite and DTT signal.
But better getting someone who knows what there doing, proper fibre meter and equipment.

regards,

gerry

Johnboy1951

gerry sat wrote: »

Or use FIBRE, much better system and very very very low loss, on both satellite and DTT signal.
But better getting someone who knows what there doing, proper fibre meter and equipment.

regards,

gerry

I have been wondering about a POF network in the home ... this is one source I came across .....

http://firecomms.com/downloads/solution_guides/FCommsHomeNetworking.pdf

domel

2xcoax and 2x cat6 should be enough, you can run HDMI signals over either cat6 or coax.

mass_debater

domel wrote: »

2xcoax and 2x cat6 should be enough, you can run HDMI signals over either cat6 or coax.

You are better with 3x coax for the main rooms, 2 for sat, 1 for rf out.

Stinicker

Allow an underground duct to the road, kerb to allow for Fibre to the Home eventually, saves an ugly overhead cable or having to dig up tarmac in future etc. Not really relevent to this thread but just throwing it out there if your building a new house or renovating etc.

I'd run a Cat5 or 6 to each room also because with fibre in future, that will be how things are done, the best suggestion was fibre but it may be expensive. Possibly run cords in an empty duct to allow for fibre future proofing.

basill

Cat 5/6 over HDMI is a relatively cheap solution and avoids long expensive runs of HDMI cables. The advantage of cat5/6 cable is you get 105m cable length which very few houses would ever need. All your sky, digi boxes, dvd players, amps etc can be stored in a central location/utility cupboard with the sat/soar coax cables all running into this. Each room/tv point requires two runs of cat5 or 6 cable to the back of the tv/projector. There is a sender and receiver unit. The tvs and set top boxes etc are all controlled using a wireless remote or iphone/android app. There are loads of google images of these setups so you will see how it all works.

slicedpanman

Hi all,
I've also got a pair of cat6 cables running to each room in the house - all fed to a 16 port switch in the attic (one of the rooms also has a router connected so all rooms have internet access)

Can someone point me to a product (or set of them) that will allow me to send HDMI over my cat6 net (and over the switch)?
thanks
spm

Johnboy1951

basill wrote: »

Cat 5/6 over HDMI is a relatively cheap solution and avoids long expensive runs of HDMI cables. The advantage of cat5/6 cable is you get 105m cable length which very few houses would ever need. All your sky, digi boxes, dvd players, amps etc can be stored in a central location/utility cupboard with the sat/soar coax cables all running into this. Each room/tv point requires two runs of cat5 or 6 cable to the back of the tv/projector. There is a sender and receiver unit. The tvs and set top boxes etc are all controlled using a wireless remote or iphone/android app. There are loads of google images of these setups so you will see how it all works.

I never tried HDMI over ethernet ...... can you point to any link which describes how a set up as described, with multiple devices outputting HDMI, would be made available at multiple TV points concurrently?
What are the limitations of such a system?

maybe this thread is not the place to ask

basill

Loads of stuff on avforums. An hdmi switch will do what you want depending on how many TV points you have. One of the best suppliers is gefen but it will cost you. Then again it works and cheap inferior products on eBay are a dime a dozen but will more than likely bring heartbreak.

I suggest you take your query to avforums and put up a diagram for their experts to advise. Try and future proof wherever possible. Cable is cheap but opening up walls and ceilings at a later stage is not.