taking a ditch out of it.

Dunedin · 21-02-2015 8:30pm #1

I want to take a ditch out beside the house. It's a new build and the ditch is shown on the site map.

Can I plough away or should I get permission from whoever?

Reggie. · 21-02-2015 9:51pm

Dunedin wrote: »

I want to take a ditch out beside the house. It's a new build and the ditch is shown on the site map.

Can I plough away or should I get permission from whoever?

If its within your boundary I'd say you should be sound. I'd just say to anyone that you intend to replant the hedge. Should be covered then

cj maxx · 21-02-2015 10:02pm

Reggie. wrote: »

If its within your boundary I'd say you should be sound. I'd just say to anyone that you intend to replant the hedge. Should be covered then

Agree , if its a planning stipulation promise to replant it , assuming you own both sides of the hedge of corsr

Dunedin · 21-02-2015 10:13pm

cjmc wrote: »

Agree , if its a planning stipulation promise to replant it , assuming you own both sides of the hedge of corsr

It's not a planning stipulation. It is a ditch on the drive way in to the house (new build).

It borders neighbours land but he has given permission to remove same.

Reggie. · 21-02-2015 10:20pm

Dunedin wrote: »

It's not a planning stipulation. It is a ditch on the drive way in to the house (new build).

It borders neighbours land but he has given permission to remove same.

You should be grand so. We did the same and the light that the ditch had blocked was unbelievable

Fuxake · 22-02-2015 9:37am

Careful now. Isn't there a new regulation (2011) regarding getting Dept to screen first before doing any reclamation above a certain threshold. AFAIK, the threshold for removing a hedge is 500m - anything above and ya have to get them out to see it first.

Markcheese · 22-02-2015 9:40am

Fuxake wrote: »

Careful now. Isn't there a new regulation (2011) regarding getting Dept to screen first before doing any reclamation above a certain threshold. AFAIK, the threshold for removing a hedge is 500m - anything above and ya have to get them out to see it first.

That's a lot of hedge !! How much would it cost to plant 500 meters of hedge -

Miname · 22-02-2015 10:00am

Markcheese wrote: »

That's a lot of hedge !! How much would it cost to plant 500 meters of hedge -

1100 for white thorns then your time after that

tomieen jones · 22-02-2015 10:23am

Careful now Ted

Markcheese · 22-02-2015 10:54am

I was just wondering if you'd be better off cutting back the ditch almost to the ground and filling in the gaps with new hedge trees - then just get it trimmed every couple of years - probably be cheaper than rooting it all out - and then having to replace it with an ugly fence- or post and rail -
( and I like the look of well kept hedges :-). )

Willfarman · 22-02-2015 11:05am

As long as you are not claiming on the area or your neighbour isn't it will be grand to clear it. But if it is on submitted maps don't touch it. You will draw the bxtards onto you.

Dunedin · 22-02-2015 11:14am

Willfarman wrote: »

As long as you are not claiming on the area or your neighbour isn't it will be grand to clear it. But if it is on submitted maps don't touch it. You will draw the bxtards onto you.

I am not claiming it because I have it on my site map and the site was taken out of it but my neighbour obviously would be.

Any suggestions of who could I talk with before I do anything about it..... My reps man???

Willfarman · 22-02-2015 11:23am

Dunedin wrote: »

I am not claiming it because I have it on my site map and the site was taken out of it but my neighbour obviously would be.

Any suggestions of who could I talk with before I do anything about it..... My reps man???

Yes the very man.

Reggie. · 22-02-2015 12:30pm

Dunedin wrote: »

I am not claiming it because I have it on my site map and the site was taken out of it but my neighbour obviously would be.

Any suggestions of who could I talk with before I do anything about it..... My reps man???

If its on a building site I can't see how it involves the Dept. It would be more the council.

grizzlyadams · 22-02-2015 4:02pm

I presume if it's part of the planning permission fire away but if not then don't touch it .... ?

lakill Farm · 23-02-2015 9:32am

im removing an 90 meter hedge at the moment along a regional road. I wasn't at it 15 minutes before a council engineer was out :rolleyes:

Anyway no planning needed for my job. He was looking for a traffic management plan and planning to remove ditch, open a gap etc.. I told him where to head off to and called his boss and questioned why id need planning, because its before 1st march for the birds

Dunedin · 23-02-2015 9:48am

lakill Farm wrote: »

im removing an 90 meter hedge at the moment along a regional road. I wasn't at it 15 minutes before a council engineer was out :rolleyes:

Anyway no planning needed for my job. He was looking for a traffic management plan and planning to remove ditch, open a gap etc.. I told him where to head off to and called his boss and questioned why id need planning, because its before 1st march for the birds

Talked to reps planner this morning and he said no need for any permission as long as I sow replacement hedge immediately.

Reggie. · 23-02-2015 9:50am

Dunedin wrote: »

Talked to reps planner this morning and he said no need for any permission as long as I sow replacement hedge immediately.

But you need to wait till sept to sow hedges

Deepsouthwest · 23-02-2015 9:54am

lakill Farm wrote: »

im removing an 90 meter hedge at the moment along a regional road. I wasn't at it 15 minutes before a council engineer was out :rolleyes:

Anyway no planning needed for my job. He was looking for a traffic management plan and planning to remove ditch, open a gap etc.. I told him where to head off to and called his boss and questioned why id need planning, because its before 1st march for the birds

He was probably only there within 15 mins cos someone reported it!

Nettleman · 23-02-2015 10:30am

lakill Farm wrote: »

im removing an 90 meter hedge at the moment along a regional road. I wasn't at it 15 minutes before a council engineer was out :rolleyes:

Anyway no planning needed for my job. He was looking for a traffic management plan and planning to remove ditch, open a gap etc.. I told him where to head off to and called his boss and questioned why id need planning, because its before 1st march for the birds

Glad to see they have their priorities right way up as usual- if your road needed gritting, or resurfacing, they wouldn't be so quick off the mark-
They may contact DAFM and will likely be watching for burning. Also I taught the SMR was that replacement hedge has to go in first, Yeah, as ever im correct-, see page 16 of link

:D
http://www.mayococo.ie/en/Services/Environment/Farmers/PDFFile,23850,en.pdf

lakill Farm · 23-02-2015 11:25am

he said he was doing a report for the planning section. I told him I hoped it didn't take 14 months like the last report he was to do for flooding that he never bothered his arse doing. He cut stick fairly quick between that and I told him I didn't have all day to talk ****e with him like his colleagues would

Boom gone in a flash

Nettleman wrote: »

Glad to see they have their priorities right way up as usual- if your road needed gritting, or resurfacing, they wouldn't be so quick off the mark-
They may contact DAFM and will likely be watching for burning. Also I taught the SMR was that replacement hedge has to go in first, Yeah, as ever im correct-, see page 16 of link :D
http://www.mayococo.ie/en/Services/Environment/Farmers/PDFFile,23850,en.pdf

Dunedin · 23-02-2015 12:46pm

Reggie. wrote: »

But you need to wait till sept to sow hedges

why do you have to wait til sept to plant hedge's???

Reggie. · 23-02-2015 3:39pm

Dunedin wrote: »

why do you have to wait til sept to plant hedge's???

Auld lads around here say you can only sow hedges from Sept to march. You can't sow them in the summer as it's the growing season for the hedges and they might not take

Limestone Cowboy · 23-02-2015 6:32pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Auld lads around here say you can only sow hedges from Sept to march. You can't sow them in the summer as it's the growing season for the hedges and they might not take

I always heard you could sow any month with an R in it.

Reggie. · 23-02-2015 7:23pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

I always heard you could sow any month with an R in it.

Kovu · 23-02-2015 7:26pm

Reggie. wrote: »

September, October, November, December, January, February, March.

It's a backwards way of saying the same thing, just to confuse the townies.

mayota · 23-02-2015 7:49pm

April

Reggie. · 23-02-2015 7:51pm

mayota wrote: »

April

Cheeky

mayota · 23-02-2015 7:54pm

Nice to get one over K

Reggie. · 23-02-2015 7:56pm

mayota wrote: »

Nice to get one over K

Get what over.......:P

Kovu · 23-02-2015 8:09pm

mayota wrote: »

Nice to get one over K

Eh, you what now? :eek:

Reggie. · 23-02-2015 8:13pm

Kovu wrote: »

Eh, you what now? :eek:

mayota · 23-02-2015 8:15pm

Fast one.

Genghis Cant · 23-02-2015 8:44pm

If ground conditions dried up a bit I'd be happy enough to sow bare root quicks during March or into April depending on the year.
I'm not at all sure about the consequences of removing a hedge though.

lakill Farm · 24-02-2015 9:39am

talk to your agri advisor/planner , the forms have changed I know a client had it set back last week because it was on the old form. almost no difference

I don't get sfp so no fines here

Genghis Cant wrote: »

If ground conditions dried up a bit I'd be happy enough to sow bare root quicks during March or into April depending on the year.
I'm not at all sure about the consequences of removing a hedge though.

taking a ditch out of it.

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