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Mother Burns Down House Of Her Daughter's Killer! :)

  • 17-02-2015 4:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭


    On 19 October, 2009 sweet innocent little Somer Thompson patted a dog outside the home of Jared Harrell who enticed her into his house before raping and killing her by suffocation. Her decomposing body was later discovered in a Georgian landfill.

    Harrell is currently serving 6 life sentences. His house was foreclosed before the bank gave it to a charity set up by Somer's mother Diena Thompson who gave it Orange Park Fire Department to use for training purposes.

    The house was lit by a flare thrown into the house by Ms Thompson and the house was burned to the ground.



    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/mother-smiles-as-she-burns-down-home-of-daughters-killer-10051741.html

    :D

    About time this form of restorative justice was used in Ireland?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    THATS GOT TO BE KANE!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,838 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    About time this form of restorative justice was used in Ireland?

    It's not really restorative justice, he didn't make the mortgage payments cause he was in jail and the bank donated it. He was never going to get the house back if/when he got out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin



    About time this form of restorative justice was used in Ireland?

    Did you read your own post?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    What's with all the outrage porn these days... Ah yes school is out. Carry on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    She burned down the house given to a fire department from a charity in her daughter's name?

    I'm failing to see the justice angle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    I'm sure it more than compensated for the loss of her daughter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Viper_JB


    I was kinda hoping he would be in it from the thread title :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Viper_JB wrote: »
    I was kinda hoping he would be in it from the thread title :(


    He didn't even own it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Why did she not sell it and do something constructive with the money?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Viper_JB


    Nodin wrote: »
    He didn't even own it.

    I know very disappointing :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DavidRamsay99


    She burned down the house given to a fire department from a charity in her daughter's name?

    I'm failing to see the justice angle.

    She burned down the home of the motherf*cker her raped and killed her daughter.

    I think this idea should be adopted in Ireland.

    You take a life then your house is burned down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    She burned down the home of the motherf*cker her raped and killed her daughter.

    What difference did it make? The guy would never step foot in it again anyway!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Why did she not sell it and do something constructive with the money?

    Possibly because her daughter was raped and murdered in there and sometimes being rational is more than a person can cope with?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    She burned down the home of the motherf*cker her raped and killed her daughter.

    I think this idea should be adopted in Ireland.

    You take a life then your house is burned down.


    Did you read your own OP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    it's a shame, if the house was being used by the comminity it's a waste. burning the house down would not bring back her daughter or help her with her grief in the long run.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭BehindTheScenes



    About time this form of restorative justice was used in Ireland?



    Nah it's not will sadly never bring her Daughter back. No matter how much revenge she takes it will never fill the void left by her loss.

    Burning it down though was the correct thing to do in this situation.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭Carlos Orange


    Nodin wrote: »
    Did you read your own OP?

    Probably not. I don't think it was even his house. I guess "Mother Burns Down House Her Daughter's Killer Mother used to own" doesn't have the same ring.

    "She ran ahead of the pack to pet a dog outside the home where Jared Harrell was staying with his mother."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Copa Mundial


    No matter how much revenge she takes it will never fill the void left by her loss.

    Exactly this.

    To have done something constructive with the house, or money raised from it's sale, would have had a more lasting impression than the satisfaction of burning it.

    Each to their own, I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DavidRamsay99


    Exactly this.

    To have done something constructive with the house, or money raised from it's sale, would have had a more lasting impression than the satisfaction of burning it.

    Each to their own, I guess.

    Who wants to live in a house where a child was raped and murdered?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭JohnnyChimpo


    Who wants to live in a house where a child was raped and murdered?

    If it was a good deal I wouldn't give a ****e tbh, apologies if that sounds uncaring or whatever but I just don't see the relevance. And then at least, the grieving mother would have a nice sum of money to spend as she wishes or donate to the RSPCC or something.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Worst Smiley Face usage in a thread 2015 Contender


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    On 19 October, 2009 sweet innocent little Somer Thompson patted a dog outside the home of Jared Harrell who enticed her into his house before raping and killing her by suffocation. Her decomposing body was later discovered in a Georgian landfill.

    Harrell is currently serving 6 life sentences. His house was foreclosed before the bank gave it to a charity set up by Somer's mother Diena Thompson who gave it Orange Park Fire Department to use for training purposes.

    The house was lit by a flare thrown into the house by Ms Thompson and the house was burned to the ground.



    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/mother-smiles-as-she-burns-down-home-of-daughters-killer-10051741.html

    :D

    About time this form of restorative justice was used in Ireland?

    Yeah, that's intelligent :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭The Peanut


    Posters here can pass judgment on the opinion of the OP but no-one can truly pass judgement on the actions of the mother. It mightn't seem like an intelligent or worthwhile contribution to the memory of her daughter, but she said she found it cathartic. I'm sure all reasoning has gone out the window for that poor woman. We're not in a position to pass judgement.

    The thread title and first post are sensationalist however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DavidRamsay99


    I can't imagine why you are so upset a child rapist and murderer's house was burned down.

    He wasn't an underdog. You don't need to stand up for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    Maybe it felt good at the time but it won't change circumstances. I don't think people would want to live in a house that was owned/lived-in by pedo and child-killer, so I can see some benefit in destroying it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito



    About time this form of restorative justice was used in Ireland?

    Not sure how much justice burning down the house will serve on the killer. Hes doing 6 life sentences so probably wouldn't have een living in it again anyway.

    EDIT. Beaten to it. Bah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I can't imagine why you are so upset a child rapist and murderer's house was burned down.

    He wasn't an underdog. You don't need to stand up for him.

    It wasn't his house anymore though and its not like it was taken off his as punishment for killing the child. He didn't pay the mortgage cos hes in prison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I can't imagine why you are so upset a child rapist and murderer's house was burned down.

    He wasn't an underdog. You don't need to stand up for him.


    ...who are you talking to there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Considering he was effectively evicted from it, I'd imagine he was glad if anything that the house got incinerated instead of going to someone else.

    On the set they built for Trailer Park Boys, they said they could tell which trailers were eviction ones from the fact the interior walls were torn to pieces and they smelled of piss and sh*t. If someone's getting evicted there's often a "if I cant have it, no one can" attitude.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭beyondbelief67


    The way I read it is that the house was given to the fire department to help them learn and practice in and they themselves asked her to start the fire ? Not an act of arson ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Paramite Pie


    it's a shame, if the house was being used by the comminity it's a waste. burning the house down would not bring back her daughter or help her with her grief in the long run.

    It was a controlled fire to help train Firemen over a period of days. They asked her to start the fire - they would've done it if she hadn't anyways.

    More experienced firemen will help save lives so it's an interesting exercise, I didn't know they did that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    It was a controlled fire to help train Firemen over a period of days. They asked her to start the fire - they would've done it if she hadn't anyways.

    More experienced firemen will help save lives so it's an interesting exercise, I didn't know they did that.

    They do that in Dublin training centre, mock houses burning for the new recruits. Makes sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    Such a pity the evil bastard wasn't inside while it burned. Everybody must be glad it's gone and they don't have to look at it everyday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dog of Tears



    :D

    About time this form of restorative justice was used in Ireland?

    I'm sure burning down a house more than made up for her daughter being raped and murdered.

    Stupid Post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    what did the house ever do to deserve that, no justice once again /murica
    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭stmol32


    She burned down the home of the motherf*cker her raped and killed her daughter.

    I think this idea should be adopted in Ireland.

    You take a life then your house is burned down.

    If that's what you want to happen in Ireland then you should start a thread about it and debate it out with people.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    The Peanut wrote: »
    Posters here can pass judgment on the opinion of the OP but no-one can truly pass judgement on the actions of the mother. It mightn't seem like an intelligent or worthwhile contribution to the memory of her daughter, but she said she found it cathartic. I'm sure all reasoning has gone out the window for that poor woman. We're not in a position to pass judgement.

    The thread title and first post are sensationalist however.

    She wanted to burn the house down then why not burn it down? Why invite the press and have some high-five fest as it goes up in smoke to see what everyone thinks? You don't want peoples' opinion about your IMHO stupid act then don't create a media event around it. My sympathies lie with her for her awful loss but this act I just think is stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    The house didn't rape and murder her daughter nor did it contain or belong to the "person" that did.

    Futile act.

    This act of stupidity may be indicative of underlying mental problems, understandable given her dreadful loss. Hope she gets the help she needs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    DeadHand wrote: »
    The house didn't rape and murder her daughter nor did it contain or belong to the "person" that did.

    How many homeless persons in the USA?

    Futile, wasteful act.

    I understand if the sight of it distressed her... Was it so close it couldn't have been avoided? If so, how could she bear it for 5 years without destroying it or moving away herself?

    This act of stupidity may be indicative of underlying mental problems, understandable given her dreadful loss. Hope she isn't prosecuted for this but, instead, gets the help she obviously needs.

    Yep, RIP house :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    DeadHand wrote: »

    This act of stupidity may be indicative of underlying mental problems, understandable given her dreadful loss. Hope she isn't prosecuted for this but, instead, gets the help she obviously needs.

    Why would she be prosecuted for it? The house was foreclosed upon and then donated to the local fire station for training purposes. The fire station let the mother light the house on fire in a controlled setting so that new recruits could train. Did you even read the article before jumping to conclusions about this woman's mental state?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Why would she be prosecuted for it? The house was foreclosed upon and then donated to the local fire station for training purposes. The fire station let the mother light the house on fire in a controlled setting so that new recruits could train. Did you even read the article before jumping to conclusions about this woman's mental state?

    Oh, right I did but somehow missed the fact it was as part of a training exercise. Somehow had it in my head that there was a bit of arson going on.

    Still a fairly ridiculous pantomine that doesn't avenge anyone. Fire department should have left her out of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    The thread needs a fair amount of editing.

    firebrigade allow women to start fire in house once owned by her daughters killer as part of training exercise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭beyondbelief67


    Maybe the fire department realized it was something the mom needed to do ?
    Same as the house mark Bridger killed April Jones in, when that house was demolished April's parents were invited to watch and later said they now felt the spirit of their daughter was finally free and not trapped in the house, where she was killed.
    So maybe that is why they allowed this mother to free her daughter's spirit ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DavidRamsay99


    DeadHand wrote: »
    Oh, right I did but somehow missed the fact it was as part of a training exercise. Somehow had it in my head that there was a bit of arson going on.

    Still a fairly ridiculous pantomine that doesn't avenge anyone. Fire department should have left her out of it.

    The house was the location where her daughter was raped and murdered. Of course she should be the one to torch it.
    The house was burned down to excise an eye sore, to send a message to her killer and to send a message to society.
    I think that if someone commits a heinous crime like this their house should be demolished while they are in prison.
    The Israelis demolished the houses of the animals who murdered those Jewish teenagers last year.
    Vermin should have no place to live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ............
    The house was burned down to excise an eye sore, to send a message to her killer and to send a message to society.............

    No it wasn't. Read what you posted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DavidRamsay99


    Nodin wrote: »
    No it wasn't. Read what you posted.

    Watch the video accompanying the article.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    The house was the location where her daughter was raped and murdered. Of course she should be the one to torch it.
    The house was burned down to excise an eye sore, to send a message to her killer and to send a message to society.
    I think that if someone commits a heinous crime like this their house should be demolished while they are in prison.
    The Israelis demolished the houses of the animals who murdered those Jewish teenagers last year.
    Vermin should have no place to live.

    The only message this sends to society is that if you don't pay your mortgage, the bank will take possession of it and do with it as they see fit.

    And what if the man's mother still lived there? Should she have had her home burnt down?

    If I go out and kill someone, should my family be turfed out of their home so it can be burnt down by the victim's mother?

    Sometimes I wonder do people even think about what ridiculous nonsense they are suggesting before they post?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Watch the video accompanying the article.


    Yeah, theres a house burning in it, well done, one thing right at last.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    The house was lit by a flare thrown into the house by Ms Thompson and the house was burned to the ground.

    I concur with the poster who said " poor woman," and I hope she finds peace and healing. It is a fundamental maxim of every civilised legal system that the law should not be vengeful.
    :D

    This sentiment speaks for itself. Further comment would be superfluous.
    About time this form of restorative justice was used in Ireland?

    This system of justice of which you approve is no doubt founded on the West Bank School of Jurisprudence, ( of which you also doubtless approve, ) where the houses of convicts, suspects, and the families of convicts and suspects are frequently demolished.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭colossus-x


    She burned down the home of the motherf*cker her raped and killed her daughter.

    I think this idea should be adopted in Ireland.

    You take a life then your house is burned down.

    This raises some interesting questions. For example is one were well off and owned a few houses, would you burn down one house per murder, or them all? And what if the person has no house? What would u burn down then? Also , who pays for the clean up operation ? The murderer or the person who lit the fire? And who pays for the damage done to the adjoining houses? How much notice do you give them of the impending fire? Will the fire brigade be called? Will they try to put the fire out, or do they let it burn itself out, in which case , they really don't need to turn up.

    I don't think you've thought this through.


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