If you could make a sleeper

toastedpickles

Seen this idea on the etcg facebook page and so though it would be an idea to see what everyone's idea of a sleeper here would be

Mine for instance would be a pt cruiser running possibly a hybrid engine of some sort with a 4wd subaru chassis for the craic

obviously engineering, common sense and the like doesn't come into play here
So your idea of a sleeper? What is it?

kay 9

The rover 220 tomcat is a wolf in sheeps clothing but is getting a little old. Always wanted one though lol. Not exactly a v8 but more grunt than most and nice handling

Sterling Archer

Keeping it all in one family.

1991 Nissan sunny, with a Nissan VK45DE 4.5L V8, Twin Turbos, Supra 6 speed gearbox, with a part Nismo pulsar Vrz suspension, and converted to Rwd.

PirateShampoo

Seen a Ford Kia dirt racer at a car show with 2 Haybusa engines in boot.

Eric Cartman

a prius with the veyrons w16 engine in it and 4wd, straight through exhaust and tune it to run rich. leave the batteries in for weight.

a super fast prius that does about 6mpg is what I'd be aiming for.

Foxhole Norman

Bog standard Rover 75 with an M5's V10

pheelay

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Bog standard Rover 75 with an M5's V10

MG ZT 260. Looks like a Rover 75, but rear-wheel drive and a V8. There's a supercharger kit that bumps the 260bhp up to 400 so not too far off

Caliden

Mk4 golf r32 with a turbo'd vr6.

It could be made to look like a regular golf but it could have 500+hp

Supergurrier

pheelay wrote: »

MG ZT 260. Looks like a Rover 75, but rear-wheel drive and a V8. There's a supercharger kit that bumps the 260bhp up to 400 so not too far off

That supercharger kit is abslutely ridiculously priced, like 5-6k sterling though

dgt

Either a Corolla liftback with 4wd and a d turbo lump for everyday use/3sgte for embarrassing plenty

Or a C220 Diesel with an OM606 and compound turbos and 7mm elements...

ironclaw

Habusha backed original Mini with AWD. Its been done and its proper quick.

That or the 400hp Yaris.

davycc

A cinquecento sporting with a hyabusa Mid mounted rwd conversion!

Friend of mine built a Ford ka road car with a 1.6 cvh from an xr2.fast road cam,
Twin 40 Webbers, cherrybomb exhaust, mondeo 2l brakes.

Stripped out interior with two blue sparco race seats..
Such a sleeper and amazing fun!

Special Circumstances

The original 2.5 Forester XT, rebadged as a diesel Suzuki Vitara and with lower profile performance tyres and way stiffer anti-roll bars. 25mm drop?






5.3s 0-60 allegebly*...

"Most of the smileage was brought on by the 2.5XT's unceasing willingness to make usable torque and to scream across intersections in first gear, which is an extra-deep 3.45:1 (the same as in base Foresters). The boost comes on right now, enhanced by a limited-slip viscous rear differential and 4.44:1 axle ratios, shorter than the 4.11:1 diffs on other Foresters. Also beneficial is a curb weight of only 3289 pounds, 78 more pounds than a no-blower 2.5X we tested in July 2002. The force-fed flat-four's combination of torque, gearing, and weight will get you a blazing 0-to-60 time of 5.3 seconds and a quarter-mile of 13.8 seconds at 97 mph, just 0.3 second slower than an $89,665 Porsche Cayenne Turbo (see page 62)."

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/subaru-forester-25xt-road-test-fast-scooby-page-3



*fairly bad body roll as stock in fairness

EazyD

MK1 MX5 with a 13B.

JPF82

An Audi RS4 with a 1.9 tdi engine in it....


Seriously though, a standard looking Audi A4 with diesel badges but with a proper RS4 engine and running gear. The total opposite of felt spec.

Caliden

JPF82 wrote: »

An Audi RS4 with a 1.9 tdi engine in it....


Seriously though, a standard looking Audi A4 with diesel badges but with a proper RS4 engine and running gear. The total opposite of felt spec.

Include a tow bar.

Wossack

something based on a tiida - so when you destroy some poor unfortunate at the lights, you crush their very being

mik_da_man

JPF82 wrote: »

An Audi RS4 with a 1.9 tdi engine in it....


Seriously though, a standard looking Audi A4 with diesel badges but with a proper RS4 engine and running gear. The total opposite of felt spec.

Just what I was thinking.
Often toyed with the idea of replacing my badges for the craic

JPF82

Caliden wrote: »

Include a tow bar.

Ah yes, definitely!

richj

Something a little different;

An old school vespa, kept standard looking, with a full race spec 500cc 2 stroke from MX bike!!!!

Joe 90

davycc wrote: »

A cinquecento sporting with a hyabusa Mid mounted rwd conversion!

Friend of mine built a Ford ka road car with a 1.6 cvh from an xr2.fast road cam,
Twin 40 Webbers, cherrybomb exhaust, mondeo 2l brakes.

Stripped out interior with two blue sparco race seats..
Such a sleeper and amazing fun!

Reckon the wife would notice if I did that to her Ka?:)

Tefral

K20 Honda Type R engine conversion to an old school mini. Take out the glass and replace it with lightweight glass. Remove and weight items like aircom etc. Upgrade the brakes and suspension to handle the new power and away I go.

tossy

Caliden wrote: »

Mk4 golf r32 with a turbo'd vr6.

It could be made to look like a regular golf but it could have 500+hp

Why not just turbo a regular Vr6 then,rather than running an R32 by making it look not like an R32

mik_da_man wrote: »

Just what I was thinking.
Often toyed with the idea of replacing my badges for the craic

I thought you replaced them already with Rs4 ones ?:D

I'd like a vw Bora with 4wd 6 cylinders and 272 bhp

If i was doing it again though it would be something Vr and turbo'd this time.

davycc

Joe 90 wrote: »

Reckon the wife would notice if I did that to her Ka?:)

Sure what's the worse that could happen? Lol

Boskowski

An understated E39 540i would be nice. 4.4l 8 cylinder 217 kw and looks like a nice tidy but oldish and nothing special 520 or so. I'd love that.

pablo128

A 98 Avensis, bog standard on the outside with steel wheels and hubcaps, but with the running gear out of a Caldina gt4.

quadrifoglio verde

davycc wrote: »

Sure what's the worse that could happen? Lol

Early life insurance claim

Special Circumstances

pablo128 wrote: »

A 98 Avensis, bog standard on the outside with steel wheels and hubcaps, but with the running gear out of a Caldina gt4.

Taxi signage on it and all!
http://youtu.be/n-bgczxCvAg

ShaunieVW

A RWD mk2 golf. Simple.

9935452

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7hCPODjJO7s
These lads are putting the engine and running gear from a celica gt4 into a mini.
Definitely worth watching.

NickDunne

No words needed.

and...

dmc17

cronin_j wrote: »

K20 Honda Type R engine conversion to an old school mini. Take out the glass and replace it with lightweight glass. Remove and weight items like aircom etc. Upgrade the brakes and suspension to handle the new power and away I go.

Not a type-R but still looks like fun!

robtri

have to stick in the transit with the xj220 engine....

Ded_Zebra

Corolla estate with a 20V 4A-GE in it. Fairly mild but would frighten a few people Or what would be even better but a lot more work would be the same estate with Celica GT-4 running gear :cool:

RandomAccess

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Corolla estate with a 20V 4A-GE in it. Fairly mild but would frighten a few people Or what would be even better but a lot more work would be the same estate with Celica GT-4 running gear :cool:

Fensport did a few projects in a similar vein.

http://www.fensport.co.uk/fensportcars/corolla_sr.aspx
http://www.fensport.co.uk/fensportcars/corolla_gt4.aspx

Great sleeper potential in Toyota & Nissan since most of their recent stuff has been fairly tepid.

Caliden

tossy wrote: »

Why not just turbo a regular Vr6 then,rather than running an R32 by making it look not like an R32

Better base to start off with.

Dord

An actual sleeper in Ireland? It'd have to be a stock-looking Qashqai with a GT-R engine. Baby on board sticker on the back, and Disney sunshades on the windows to complete the look.

Interslice

Wossack wrote: »

something based on a tiida - so when you destroy some poor unfortunate at the lights, issue with the build.ou crush their very being

Was just about to post a tiida shell stuck on a R35 chassis. The project would hinge on can you get steelies to fit an R35 hub :pac:

dgt

Interslice wrote: »

Was just about to post a tiida shell stuck on a R35 chassis. The project would hinge on can you get steelies to fit an R35 hub :pac:

Inboard discs and fit nissan march 12inch steelies :cool:

Sobanek

E60 535d with a heavily modified block, remapped to put out 360bhp or so and a 520d badge to top it all off

Joe 90

cronin_j wrote: »

K20 Honda Type R engine conversion to an old school mini. Take out the glass and replace it with lightweight glass. Remove and weight items like aircom etc. Upgrade the brakes and suspension to handle the new power and away I go.

What aircon?

Joe 90

davycc wrote: »

Sure what's the worse that could happen? Lol

She might want to use my Exige instead!

bman1

Often thought about a sleeper car but on a serious note the only thing that really springs to mind is sumthing with a Volvo t5, tuned a bit, debadged. Average person on the street couldn't tell the difference between a t5 or a 2.0d. Say an s40 or v50. Standard looking cars really I suppose. Most of the suggestions so far are kinda jokey ones or mad conversions which cost big bucks, which is grand obviously!
But genuine sleepers I can't think of too many factory cars, say no engine conversions etc
Ps I know the OP said about common sense and stuff not coming into it, just thinking a t5 is a realistic option, if sumone really wanted to go down that route. I know I would if the funds were there !

tossy

Sobanek wrote: »

E60 535d with a heavily modified block, remapped to put out 360bhp or so and a 520d badge to top it all off

When i think of sleeper and diesel i think of zzzzzz's lol you could make any sleeper you want and you choose a diesel ?

dgt

bman1 wrote: »

Often thought about a sleeper car but on a serious note the only thing that really springs to mind is sumthing with a Volvo t5, tuned a bit, debadged. Average person on the street couldn't tell the difference between a t5 or a 2.0d. Say an s40 or v50. Standard looking cars really I suppose. Most of the suggestions so far are kinda jokey ones or mad conversions which cost big bucks, which is grand obviously!
But genuine sleepers I can't think of too many factory cars, say no engine conversions etc
Ps I know the OP said about common sense and stuff not coming into it, just thinking a t5 is a realistic option, if sumone really wanted to go down that route. I know I would if the funds were there !

Volvo he says....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q4PT_nL77k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidszGa5I5k

tossy wrote: »

When i think of sleeper and diesel i think of zzzzzz's lol you could make any sleeper you want and you choose a diesel ?

You bet your life I'd make a diesel sleeper and don't forget it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E3DOqALSp8

Or a favourite of mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NxxqTlCC7s

ShaunieVW

Funny t5's came up I saw this on dd and came to post before reading that! Ultimate sleeper.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/8691413
Volvo S70 T5

bladebrew

I reckon this is a bit beyond sleeper,
http://www.driving.co.uk/news/guy-martin-on-his-volvo-fastest-car-in-britain/

It's guy martins insane Volvo,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g7QKxcH4DFw


Edit: video won't play when I embed it!

MorganIRL

Something Gaelic. Peugeot 405/406 towbar hdi badge with the engine that was in the orginal French version of taxi. Now that's a sleeper that would fit in well in the west of Ireland.

RandomAccess

bman1 wrote: »

Often thought about a sleeper car but on a serious note the only thing that really springs to mind is sumthing with a Volvo t5, tuned a bit, debadged. Average person on the street couldn't tell the difference between a t5 or a 2.0d. Say an s40 or v50. Standard looking cars really I suppose. Most of the suggestions so far are kinda jokey ones or mad conversions which cost big bucks, which is grand obviously!
But genuine sleepers I can't think of too many factory cars, say no engine conversions etc
Ps I know the OP said about common sense and stuff not coming into it, just thinking a t5 is a realistic option, if sumone really wanted to go down that route. I know I would if the funds were there !

T5 would be a fairly cheap option I should think.
I've always had a hankering for an 850 T5-R.
I was at a ploughing match donkeys years ago a a kid and asked the guy at the Volvo stand for a brochure for one, they didn't have one but they posted it to me a few days later. Which was epic! Maybe that's part of why I like Volvos.

For stealthy hooning I would like one of these with an electric butterfly valve in the exhaust.
It's not fast enough to be "that" kind of sleeper but still..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Vh0eidjUg

davycc

I had a 850 t5 manual estate in stealthy dark green and it went well and sounded great and never got a second look from the cops / joyriders which suited me nicely :-)

Didn't keep it long enough to play around with remapped ECU etc.
For shame!

ironclaw

tossy wrote: »

When i think of sleeper and diesel i think of zzzzzz's lol you could make any sleeper you want and you choose a diesel ?

You've clearly never been in one. A 535d is not a slouch and the remap / torque potential is insane.

http://www.bmw535d.co.uk/id11.html